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       #Post#: 24758--------------------------------------------------
       Anthony Taylor, Villa v Palace
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: December 26, 2020, 12:08 pm
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       I thought Anthony had a reasonable game today, and that despite
       the result for this disappointed Palace fan. Red card was
       correct, although it was good that the Beeb clarified at half
       time that the second yellow had already been shown before the
       cameras cut to Taylor who was showing what looked like a
       straight red, which it definitely wasn't. It grieves me to say
       it but Taylor was also correct not to go along with VAR Craig
       Pawson and award Palace a penalty in the first half. It was not
       a penalty in my view and certainly not a clear and obvious
       error, and that, again in my view, is what the monitor and
       sensible refereeing are all about. Another shambolic display
       from the Palace, but I can't blame Anthony for that.
       #Post#: 24760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anthony Taylor, Villa v Palace
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: December 26, 2020, 2:33 pm
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
       >
       > I thought Anthony had a reasonable game today, and that
       despite the result for this disappointed Palace fan. Red card
       was correct, although it was good that the Beeb clarified at
       half time that the second yellow had already been shown before
       the cameras cut to Taylor who was showing what looked like a
       straight red, which it definitely wasn't. It grieves me to say
       it but Taylor was also correct not to go along with VAR Craig
       Pawson and award Palace a penalty in the first half. It was not
       a penalty in my view and certainly not a clear and obvious
       error, and that, again in my view, is what the monitor and
       sensible refereeing are all about. Another shambolic display
       from the Palace, but I can't blame Anthony for that.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed, he's one of my least favourites for sure but today
       showed what a good referee he can be.  Managed very well
       throughout and key decisions correct from him.  Heads up on
       Palace though my friend - was only 2 weeks ago you hammered my
       team Spurs and came away with a well-earned draw before doing
       the same at West Ham despite being unfairly down to 10 for so
       long.  You'll be fine and are usually a good watch despite the
       limited budget :)
       #Post#: 24761--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anthony Taylor, Villa v Palace
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: December 26, 2020, 4:21 pm
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
       >
       > I thought Anthony had a reasonable game today, and that
       despite the result for this disappointed Palace fan. Red card
       was correct, although it was good that the Beeb clarified at
       half time that the second yellow had already been shown before
       the cameras cut to Taylor who was showing what looked like a
       straight red, which it definitely wasn't. It grieves me to say
       it but Taylor was also correct not to go along with VAR Craig
       Pawson and award Palace a penalty in the first half. It was not
       a penalty in my view and certainly not a clear and obvious
       error, and that, again in my view, is what the monitor and
       sensible refereeing are all about. Another shambolic display
       from the Palace, but I can't blame Anthony for that.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have to agree with you acme thunderer, stupid and hot headed of
       mings to get involved for the first yellow
       And certainly the second caution was warranted.
       Also agree that taylor was correct to stick with his original
       decision of no penalty when reviewing at the screen.
       The amount of time it took for the var to advise him to go to
       the screen to review in the first place screamed of
       Not sure therefore No obvious error.
       Ward was lucky not to get a second yellow in the late stages of
       the game, otherwise mr taylor handled the game very well indeed.
       As for palace you probably played better against a full
       compliment, than against 10.
       Fine margins in the first half and had martinez not made a great
       save in the early stages things could have been different. I am
       sure palace will be ok this season.
       #Post#: 24763--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anthony Taylor, Villa v Palace
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: December 26, 2020, 5:57 pm
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       Disappointed with Dean Smith's comments as quoted on the BBC
       website:
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       > "I thought the first yellow card was pathetic," added Smith.
       "Tyrone is stopping himself from getting attacked and gets a
       yellow card for it. With the second one, it looks like there is
       a foul just before Tyrone commits the foul - so they are two
       very soft yellow cards."
       --- End Quote ---
       First caution was absolutely justified for the thigh-high
       challenge Mings made on Zaha from behind to which Zaha reacted,
       while the second caution was nailed-on too, for impeding Zaha
       with contact to deny a promising attack. Whether you feel the
       initial challenge by Zaha on Mings was a foul or not (which from
       memory I would argue it wasn't), I don't think any fair-minded
       person could call the yellow card "soft".
       #Post#: 24764--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anthony Taylor, Villa v Palace
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: December 26, 2020, 6:00 pm
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       Might I ask why it so grieves you to say that a Referee was
       correct please?
       #Post#: 24765--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anthony Taylor, Villa v Palace
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: December 26, 2020, 6:04 pm
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       Do you not consider that beginning a post by saying that an
       official is one of your least favourites suggests a prejudicial
       perspective which may possibly devalue any evaluation, positive
       or otherwise, of that officials performances?
       #Post#: 24768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anthony Taylor, Villa v Palace
   DIR By: greeny
       Date: December 27, 2020, 1:25 am
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       Was trying to watch this and the Fulham match at the same time,
       but when I caught up with this match later, I thought Taylor put
       in a very good performance here.  He managed the game well, with
       all the cautions given correctly, and absolutely no complaints
       about either of the yellow cards for Mings leading to his red
       card.  Was also pleased to see him go against VAR on the penalty
       call, as it was blatantly not a clear and obvious error.
       #Post#: 24769--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anthony Taylor, Villa v Palace
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: December 27, 2020, 2:57 am
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       --- Quote from: PhiltheRef link ---
       >
       > Do you not consider that beginning a post by saying that an
       official is one of your least favourites suggests a prejudicial
       perspective which may possibly devalue any evaluation, positive
       or otherwise, of that officials performances?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Quite a bit of my life has been taken up with prosecution and
       defence and hopefully through that contention justice emerges. I
       believe you are one of Anthony Taylor's stoutest defenders (
       whether he is right or wrong on certain occasions I think ) and
       so it may fall to another to prosecute. It's only those setting
       themselves up as judges who need to be impartial. It could be
       argued that declaring a prior position is a truthful way to
       proceed in that what is read may be viewed through the
       particular light which the poster has already shed on their
       words.
       #Post#: 24770--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anthony Taylor, Villa v Palace
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: December 27, 2020, 2:58 am
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       For what it's worth, I thought Taylor had a very decent match
       thus showing the fine performance of which he is capable.
       #Post#: 24771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anthony Taylor, Villa v Palace
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: December 27, 2020, 3:22 am
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       --- Quote from: PhiltheRef link ---
       >
       > Might I ask why it so grieves you to say that a Referee was
       correct please?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As a fervent Palace fan, I was grieved that Anthony made the
       correct decision on the penalty incident. I think I would have
       felt embarrassed had he given the penalty.
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