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#Post#: 24530--------------------------------------------------
Graham Scott - Newcastle vs. Fulham - topics merged
DIR By: guest379
Date: December 19, 2020, 3:36 pm
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I said poor old Fulham last week, well this is even worse right
here....
Wilson clearly fouled by Andersen, of that there is no doubt
whatsoever. Scott gives the penalty as Wilson falls inside the
box. However, the foul is quite clearly outside the area, it's
not close. Wilson continues and springboards himself over so
that it's inside. Having looked at over 10 replays, the team of
Madley & Scott, instead of looking for the key element of
whether it was inside or outside, decide it's a red card for
Andersen for DOGSO.
The red card is probably right, it probably is a clear chance
for Wilson to shoot and maybe score, but the decision to give a
penalty and to not book Wilson for his dive afterwards for the
imaginary second phase contact is ludicrous to say the least. A
joke.
#Post#: 24531--------------------------------------------------
G SCOTT - Newcastle v Fulham
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: December 19, 2020, 3:41 pm
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No complaints with the red card for DOGSO, and Scott has done
well generally.
However Richard West on the near side has been awful. Two
ridiculous flags for free kicks to Newcastle, one against Lemina
who was just too strong and the other when Robinson was carded
for a nothing challenge on Almiron.
#Post#: 24533--------------------------------------------------
Re: Graham Scott - Newcastle vs. Fulham
DIR By: guest379
Date: December 19, 2020, 4:05 pm
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Let's also bear in mind this is the same official who decided
Zaha being bundled over in very similar circumstances a few
months ago at Selhurst Park against Man United was not worthy of
a penalty. Not a clue.
#Post#: 24534--------------------------------------------------
Re: G SCOTT - Newcastle v Fulham
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: December 19, 2020, 4:07 pm
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> No complaints with the red card for DOGSO, and Scott has done
well generally.
>
> However Richard West on the near side has been awful. Two
ridiculous flags for free kicks to Newcastle, one against Lemina
who was just too strong and the other when Robinson was carded
for a nothing challenge on Almiron.
>
--- End Quote ---
You will eventually believe me that they are trying to ensure
that any physical contact will be a foul one way or another.
Heading will enetually be banned and this will stop players
jumping up for the ball and being penalised because there arms
come up.
The modern game will be, as Whistleblower said in another post,
a new game called Passball.
How long does it take for paint to dry?
#Post#: 24537--------------------------------------------------
Re: G SCOTT - Newcastle v Fulham
DIR By: Claretman
Date: December 19, 2020, 4:33 pm
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--- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
>
> [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
link=topic=2022.msg24531#msg24531 date=1608414063]
> No complaints with the red card for DOGSO, and Scott has done
well generally.
>
> However Richard West on the near side has been awful. Two
ridiculous flags for free kicks to Newcastle, one against Lemina
who was just too strong and the other when Robinson was carded
for a nothing challenge on Almiron.
>
--- End Quote ---
You will eventually believe me that they are trying to ensure
that any physical contact will be a foul one way or another.
Heading will enetually be banned and this will stop players
jumping up for the ball and being penalised because there arms
come up.
The modern game will be, as Whistleblower said in another post,
a new game called Passball.
How long does it take for paint to dry?
[/quote]
For me def Dogso as never attempted to play the ball.
The initial foul started outside the area and continued on the
line or just inside so a pen. (similar to incident at
Brighton a few weeks back).
Agree ashington with your comments about the way the game is
going and as i said in another post of recent
Heading will be banned and thus no need to use arms when
jumping.
One other point think you should move the apostrophe and read
referees decision is now final!
#Post#: 24538--------------------------------------------------
Re: G SCOTT - Newcastle v Fulham
DIR By: guest379
Date: December 19, 2020, 4:39 pm
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--- Quote from: Claretman link ---
>
> [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=2021.msg24534#msg24534
date=1608415670]
> [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
link=topic=2022.msg24531#msg24531 date=1608414063]
> No complaints with the red card for DOGSO, and Scott has done
well generally.
>
> However Richard West on the near side has been awful. Two
ridiculous flags for free kicks to Newcastle, one against Lemina
who was just too strong and the other when Robinson was carded
for a nothing challenge on Almiron.
>
--- End Quote ---
You will eventually believe me that they are trying to ensure
that any physical contact will be a foul one way or another.
Heading will enetually be banned and this will stop players
jumping up for the ball and being penalised because there arms
come up.
The modern game will be, as Whistleblower said in another post,
a new game called Passball.
How long does it take for paint to dry?
[/quote]
For me def Dogso as never attempted to play the ball.
The initial foul started outside the area and continued on the
line or just inside so a pen. (similar to incident at
Brighton a few weeks back).
Agree washington with your comments about the way the game is
going and as i said in another post of recent
Heading will be banned and thus no need to use arms when
jumping.
One other point think you should move the apostrophe and read
referees decision is now final!
[/quote]
No it did not continue in the box, nowhere near! Wilson
continued and flopped over to get a penalty. *Edited not allowed
*, truly awful how they can view that so many times and not see
no contact at all after the initial foul way outside the box!
Fuming for Fulham.
#Post#: 24539--------------------------------------------------
Re: G SCOTT - Newcastle v Fulham
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: December 19, 2020, 4:48 pm
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--- Quote from: Claretman link ---
>
> [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=2021.msg24534#msg24534
date=1608415670]
> [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
link=topic=2022.msg24531#msg24531 date=1608414063]
> No complaints with the red card for DOGSO, and Scott has done
well generally.
>
> However Richard West on the near side has been awful. Two
ridiculous flags for free kicks to Newcastle, one against Lemina
who was just too strong and the other when Robinson was carded
for a nothing challenge on Almiron.
>
--- End Quote ---
You will eventually believe me that they are trying to ensure
that any physical contact will be a foul one way or another.
Heading will enetually be banned and this will stop players
jumping up for the ball and being penalised because there arms
come up.
The modern game will be, as Whistleblower said in another post,
a new game called Passball.
How long does it take for paint to dry?
[/quote]
For me def Dogso as never attempted to play the ball.
The initial foul started outside the area and continued on the
line or just inside so a pen. (similar to incident at
Brighton a few weeks back).
Agree ashington with your comments about the way the game is
going and as i said in another post of recent
Heading will be banned and thus no need to use arms when
jumping.
One other point think you should move the apostrophe and read
referees decision is now final!
[/quote]
Not going to do that because there is only one referee as far
as I am concerned and he is the guy on the field and his
decision was final, whether it was correct or not. Players,
managers and fans may not have liked it, however, it was
accepted, the game went on and it was a discussion point in the
pub for a couple of days afterwards. These days we are dragging
up VAR decisions for months, refereing back to who was on VAR
for that game etc., etc. It is not what the game should be
about and it is getting worse as each week goes by.
#Post#: 24540--------------------------------------------------
Re: Graham Scott - Newcastle vs. Fulham - topics merged
DIR By: ClaretandBlue06
Date: December 19, 2020, 4:49 pm
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Scott didn’t send him off though. My initial reaction in time
was red card cant believe he didn’t send him. He was shocking
again this evening just like at the Emirates last Sunday. The
clip on the foot of Wilson was the reason why it was a penalty.
#Post#: 24541--------------------------------------------------
Re: Graham Scott - Newcastle vs. Fulham - topics merged
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: December 19, 2020, 4:50 pm
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It was an odd process from Scott.
Firstly, looking at the monitor, going to his back pocket and
then walking back to llook again for quite a while.
Secondly, Fulham player had already been cautioned so you'd have
expected at least a second yellow card originally. Scott
obviously thought it wasn't DOGSO with attempt to play the ball
(yellow inside the area) or SPA without attempt to play the ball
(yellow card). It's quite a big jump from nothing at all to
straight red in those circumstances.
#Post#: 24542--------------------------------------------------
Re: Graham Scott - Newcastle vs. Fulham - topics merged
DIR By: rustyref
Date: December 19, 2020, 5:19 pm
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--- Quote from: They Are Getting Worse link ---
>
> I said poor old Fulham last week, well this is even worse
right here....
>
> Wilson clearly fouled by Andersen, of that there is no doubt
whatsoever. Scott gives the penalty as Wilson falls inside the
box. However, the foul is quite clearly outside the area, it's
not close. Wilson continues and springboards himself over so
that it's inside. Having looked at over 10 replays, the team of
Madley & Scott, instead of looking for the key element of
whether it was inside or outside, decide it's a red card for
Andersen for DOGSO.
>
> The red card is probably right, it probably is a clear chance
for Wilson to shoot and maybe score, but the decision to give a
penalty and to not book Wilson for his dive afterwards for the
imaginary second phase contact is ludicrous to say the least. A
joke.
>
--- End Quote ---
The foul started outside but continued into the penalty area,
yet again you are criticising a referee without actually
understanding the law. I initially thought they were checking
whether it was inside or out, but they were actually checking
whether it should be DOGSO as they had already and quickly
concluded there was contact inside. Once you get to that point
it can only be a red card as there was zero attempt to play the
ball.
Absolutely correct decision, although Scott going to his back
pocket only to then go back and have another look didn't look
great.
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