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       #Post#: 24385--------------------------------------------------
       Benteke's sending off
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: December 17, 2020, 3:02 am
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       Caught this on MOTD last night and I could only agree with the
       pundits. David Coote, an extremely average referee at best in my
       view, has made two poor decisions. It appears that the
       authorities are determined to make football a completely non
       contact sport which is ridiculous. I saw little wrong with
       either of Benteke's aerial challenges. I consider Roy Hodgson to
       be a fair minded and reasonable man and I could only sympathise
       with his view when he said the decisions were "very hard to
       take".
       Coote, for me, is typical of the modern breed of referee who
       know the rules ( or at least a very draconian interpretation of
       them ) but doesn't understand the game at all.
       Referring to another thread about FIFA referees of past eras, it
       is staggering that Coote now wears a FIFA badge. Has any
       currency ever been so devalued?
       #Post#: 24387--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Benteke's sending off
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: December 17, 2020, 5:40 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > I saw little wrong with either of Benteke's aerial challenges.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Maybe so but having been cautioned for the first one Benteke was
       naive in the extreme to do the same again.
       #Post#: 24388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Benteke's sending off
   DIR By: Ref Fan
       Date: December 17, 2020, 6:21 am
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       --- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=2011.msg24385#msg24385
       date=1608195745]
       > I saw little wrong with either of Benteke's aerial challenges.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Maybe so but having been cautioned for the first one Benteke was
       naive in the extreme to do the same again.
       [/quote]
       So what are you suggesting?  Benteke should have stopped
       competing for balls in the air; he should have jumped with arms
       glued to his side; or his Manager should have subbed him?
       #Post#: 24400--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Benteke's sending off
   DIR By: JCFC
       Date: December 17, 2020, 10:32 am
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       Being deficient in my understanding of terms for figures of
       speech, whenever I use the phrase "(shot) narrowly wide" I am
       uncertain as to whether that is an example of oxymoron or of
       paradox. I am hoping that The Sage of St Albans, having coined
       the phrase "extremely average", will be able to put me right on
       this.
       #Post#: 24401--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Benteke's sending off
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: December 17, 2020, 10:38 am
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       Coote has been frankly appalling all season, whether it be on
       the field or sitting in Stockley Park behind a tv monitor.
       As WB correctly states, FIFA badges seem to be guaranteed for
       anyone who is eligible for one when promoted from SG2,
       irrespective of how good they are.
       #Post#: 24403--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Benteke's sending off
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: December 17, 2020, 10:47 am
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       --- Quote from: JCFC link ---
       >
       > Being deficient in my understanding of terms for figures of
       speech, whenever I use the phrase "(shot) narrowly wide" I am
       uncertain as to whether that is an example of oxymoron or of
       paradox. I am hoping that The Sage of St Albans, having coined
       the phrase "extremely average", will be able to put me right on
       this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As an undergraduate I remember my Tutor taking me to task for
       incorrectly describing something as a paradox. He told me,  a
       logical impropriety remains a logical impropriety  even, indeed
       especially, when it is re-christened a paradox. So I am not the
       best person to be advising as to the difference between that
       which is paradoxical and that which is oxymoronic. I would say
       'narrowly wide' is an oxymoron as is 'extremely average' .
       As to the term Sage, I'm not sure I really know my onions enough
       to be called that.
       #Post#: 24404--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Benteke's sending off
   DIR By: JCFC
       Date: December 17, 2020, 11:00 am
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       Thanks for the response - and for what it's worth I agree.
       Purely as to the matter of figures of speech, you understand,
       not as to your knowledge of the allium genus.
       #Post#: 24406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Benteke's sending off
   DIR By: Hendo
       Date: December 17, 2020, 11:13 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > Coote has been frankly appalling all season, whether it be on
       the field or sitting in Stockley Park behind a tv monitor.
       >
       > As WB correctly states, FIFA badges seem to be guaranteed for
       anyone who is eligible for one when promoted from SG2,
       irrespective of how good they are.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       When you remember that the excellent  Alan Wiley never made FIFA
       it compounds the injustice even more. Enough said
       #Post#: 24415--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Benteke's sending off
   DIR By: carrowman
       Date: December 17, 2020, 12:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       >
       >
       > As WB correctly states, FIFA badges seem to be guaranteed for
       anyone who is eligible for one when promoted from SG2,
       irrespective of how good they are.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed
       #Post#: 24425--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Benteke's sending off
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: December 17, 2020, 2:27 pm
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       I agree with Hendo but unfortunately Alan Wiley was already
       "too" old when he got on Prem List. I believe it was under 37 to
       get on FiFA. Grandad Walton was also (way) too old 😊
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