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       #Post#: 24312--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 19th – Mon 21st DEC 2020
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: December 14, 2020, 1:58 pm
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       How many more times does it have to be said, where the referee
       is from is now irrelevant.  It is based on who they support or
       which clubs they have any allegiances to.  It just didn't work
       before, for example a referee living in London would be
       precluded from officiating Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, Fulham,
       West Ham, and Crystal Palace if the location rule was applied
       rigidly.  That leaves a small set of games that they can take
       on, and only hasn't been a problem as there have been no SG1
       referees for a long time.
       #Post#: 24314--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 19th – Mon 21st DEC 2020
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: December 14, 2020, 2:29 pm
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=2001.msg24305#msg24305
       date=1607966957]
       > [quote author=ClaretandBlue06
       link=topic=2001.msg24289#msg24289 date=1607962068]
       > Manchester ref for Man Utd vs Leeds. That will go down well in
       Leeds
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       For the umpteenth time, Altrincham isn’t in Manchester.
       It’s a bit like saying Haslingden is in Burnley!
       [/quote]
       He’s from wythenshawe which One could argue technically it is in
       South Manchester albeit historically used to part of Cheshire.
       The rate at which Greater Manchester is expanding the old
       ceremonial counties are largely redundant!
       [/quote]
       But as pointed out by rustyref, it's not an issue anymore.
       Andy Madley refereed Sheffield United at Southampton yesterday.
       I know Yorkshire is many different Yorkshires, but it's a
       similar principle.
       #Post#: 24316--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 19th – Mon 21st DEC 2020
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: December 14, 2020, 2:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: TVOS link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=2001.msg24307#msg24307
       date=1607968115]
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=2001.msg24305#msg24305
       date=1607966957]
       > [quote author=ClaretandBlue06
       link=topic=2001.msg24289#msg24289 date=1607962068]
       > Manchester ref for Man Utd vs Leeds. That will go down well in
       Leeds
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       For the umpteenth time, Altrincham isn’t in Manchester.
       It’s a bit like saying Haslingden is in Burnley!
       [/quote]
       He’s from wythenshawe which One could argue technically it is in
       South Manchester albeit historically used to part of Cheshire.
       The rate at which Greater Manchester is expanding the old
       ceremonial counties are largely redundant!
       [/quote]
       But as pointed out by rustyref, it's not an issue anymore.
       Andy Madley refereed Sheffield United at Southampton yesterday.
       I know Yorkshire is many different Yorkshires, but it's a
       similar principle.
       [/quote]
       Indeed - I am not disagreeing. I was merely pointing out that
       Taylor is from Wythenshawe and not Altrincham
       #Post#: 24318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 19th – Mon 21st DEC 2020
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: December 14, 2020, 3:07 pm
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=2001.msg24314#msg24314
       date=1607977751]
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=2001.msg24307#msg24307
       date=1607968115]
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=2001.msg24305#msg24305
       date=1607966957]
       > [quote author=ClaretandBlue06
       link=topic=2001.msg24289#msg24289 date=1607962068]
       > Manchester ref for Man Utd vs Leeds. That will go down well in
       Leeds
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       For the umpteenth time, Altrincham isn’t in Manchester.
       It’s a bit like saying Haslingden is in Burnley!
       [/quote]
       He’s from wythenshawe which One could argue technically it is in
       South Manchester albeit historically used to part of Cheshire.
       The rate at which Greater Manchester is expanding the old
       ceremonial counties are largely redundant!
       [/quote]
       But as pointed out by rustyref, it's not an issue anymore.
       Andy Madley refereed Sheffield United at Southampton yesterday.
       I know Yorkshire is many different Yorkshires, but it's a
       similar principle.
       [/quote]
       Indeed - I am not disagreeing. I was merely pointing out that
       Taylor is from Wythenshawe and not Altrincham
       [/quote]
       Fair enough, but he is an Altrincham fan, which sort of negates
       the stuff at the start.
       I do agree though; it's perhaps not the wisest appointment.
       #Post#: 24320--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 19th – Mon 21st DEC 2020
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: December 14, 2020, 3:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > How many more times does it have to be said, where the referee
       is from is now irrelevant.  It is based on who they support or
       which clubs they have any allegiances to.  It just didn't work
       before, for example a referee living in London would be
       precluded from officiating Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, Fulham,
       West Ham, and Crystal Palace if the location rule was applied
       rigidly.  That leaves a small set of games that they can take
       on, and only hasn't been a problem as there have been no SG1
       referees for a long time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think we are all aware of the policy - but that doesn't mean
       the appointment is the wisest in terms of public/media
       perception.
       A bit like the government's policy with exam results over the
       summer was using a scientific model that considered past
       performance of the school etc. - but the public/media didn't
       accept it so in the end it was not a n approach considered
       reasonable or appropriate.
       #Post#: 24323--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 19th – Mon 21st DEC 2020
   DIR By: AFAref
       Date: December 14, 2020, 6:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       >
       > A bit like the government's policy with exam results over the
       summer was using a scientific model that considered past
       performance of the school etc. - but the public/media didn't
       accept it so in the end it was not a n approach considered
       reasonable or appropriate.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But that clearly wasn't reasonable or appropriate, As you say it
       took in past performance of the school, not the student, so
       agreed the media latched onto it, but it was flawed from the
       start
       #Post#: 24326--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 19th – Mon 21st DEC 2020
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: December 15, 2020, 4:55 am
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       Jon Moss on duty at Palace v Liverpool, oh dear, oh dear!  ;D
       #Post#: 24329--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 19th – Mon 21st DEC 2020
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: December 15, 2020, 6:04 am
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       --- Quote from: AFAref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=2001.msg24320#msg24320
       date=1607981640]
       >
       > A bit like the government's policy with exam results over the
       summer was using a scientific model that considered past
       performance of the school etc. - but the public/media didn't
       accept it so in the end it was not a n approach considered
       reasonable or appropriate.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But that clearly wasn't reasonable or appropriate, As you say it
       took in past performance of the school, not the student, so
       agreed the media latched onto it, but it was flawed from the
       start
       [/quote]
       I'm not disagreeing. My point is that the policy makers can have
       whatever approach they like but the media/public perception
       often plays just as big a part in deciding whether that policy
       is considered effective, suitable or wise.
       The PGMO were obviously quite happy initially to appoint David
       Coote as VAR to a Liveprool game just a few weeks after
       Merseyside derby - but of course there was a strong reaction
       from people who weren't as happy with it and they had to do
       their own U-turn in the end.
       #Post#: 24407--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 19th – Mon 21st DEC 2020
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: December 17, 2020, 11:13 am
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       Do we think other festive fixture appointments will wait until
       Monday now? I thought they'd come out this week in one big bulk
       as they normally do, especially once the 2/3 Jan fixtures were
       confirmed on Tuesday.
       #Post#: 24418--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 19th – Mon 21st DEC 2020
   DIR By: marcwhu
       Date: December 17, 2020, 1:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > Do we think other festive fixture appointments will wait until
       Monday now? I thought they'd come out this week in one big bulk
       as they normally do, especially once the 2/3 Jan fixtures were
       confirmed on Tuesday.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Premier league tweeted out the appointments earlier on today for
       the next 3 match days
  HTML https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1339607310692446210?s=21
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