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Re: D COOTE - Brighton v Soton
DIR By: DublinRef
Date: December 7, 2020, 4:19 pm
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Thanks Ref Fan and rustyref for the clarification on whether
clear and obvious applies.
Regardless of the correctness of the decision I feel bad for
David Coote, he's courted a lot of controversy lately (much of
it of his own doing) but I don't think he can be blamed here.
Just adds to the "more controversy from Coote" narrative.
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Re: D COOTE - Brighton v Soton
DIR By: Claretman
Date: December 7, 2020, 4:21 pm
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If mr coote has blown his whistle for a free kick outside the
box, ie the first offence as he sees it, then he should have
looked at the monitor himself. If he has indeed blown for the
initial offence then play has stopped and
Therefore surely var cant give a penalty as play has stopped.
Again without being able to hear what the on field ref and the
var have said to each other we will be non the wiser.
Personally i thought the foul outside the area given by mr coote
was correct, but from the tv replays i couldnt
See whether any offence took place in the area or hear when the
whistle was blown.
Think brighton may well have been unlucky with var on this
occasion.
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Re: D COOTE - Brighton v Soton
DIR By: thesensibleone
Date: December 7, 2020, 5:04 pm
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I agree with you completely TTFL, I feared for David Coote as
soon as i saw the appointments as he under the watchful eye of
Mr Bankes once again and once again i was right to be fearful as
he has stitched David Coote up two games in a row when he has
made fantastic decisions on the field of play.
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Re: D COOTE - Brighton v Soton
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: December 7, 2020, 6:29 pm
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PGMOL have even surprised me with a statement...
They’ve said the video review area was not required due to the
decision being a factual one.
A bland, boring and frankly odious response to a decision.
I look forward to hearing what Hackett thinks of it....
#Post#: 23977--------------------------------------------------
Re: D COOTE - Brighton v Soton
DIR By: Irishref1985
Date: December 7, 2020, 6:40 pm
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Coote's overall handling on the game was very good and I'm not
his biggest fan.
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Re: D COOTE - Brighton v Soton
DIR By: QuoCob
Date: December 8, 2020, 12:41 am
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Good decision, the foul continued into the penalty area. If the
official blew his whistle for the first offence/contact, that's
a mistake by him in not allowing it to develop before the
challenge had been completed.
#Post#: 23985--------------------------------------------------
Re: D COOTE - Brighton v Soton
DIR By: dave26
Date: December 8, 2020, 2:44 am
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--- Quote from: Irishref1985 link ---
>
> Coote's overall handling on the game was very good and I'm not
his biggest fan.
>
--- End Quote ---
I said after the Man Utd vs West Brom watch I was impressed with
Coote I think he is a very good referee and needs regular
appointments in the middle to firmly establish himself but his
VAR duties leaves a lot to be desired
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Re: D COOTE - Brighton v Soton
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: December 8, 2020, 3:36 am
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--- Quote from: dave26 link ---
>
> [quote author=Irishref1985 link=topic=1986.msg23977#msg23977
date=1607388049]
> Coote's overall handling on the game was very good and I'm not
his biggest fan.
>
--- End Quote ---
I said after the Man Utd vs West Brom watch I was impressed with
Coote I think he is a very good referee and needs regular
appointments in the middle to firmly establish himself but his
VAR duties leaves a lot to be desired
[/quote]
He has been good when I have seen him in the middle, however, he
will be remembered for his involvement with VAR rather than his
onfield performances and last night will only add to that, even
though he was in the middle.
It is becoming more and more common amongst fans that, when they
hear of the appointment of the referee to the game, they also
ask who is doing VAR!
We can argue on here about VAR, we can listen to ex-referees
pontificating about VAR, we can listen to the media rattling on
about VAR, however, these too are only opinions, which we are
entitled to, but count for absolutely nothing because the result
depended, not on the decisions by onfield officials, but on the
input from VAR.
FIFA's quest for the perfect game goes on relentlessly, aided
and abetted by changes in the Laws and their interpretation,
however, they are likely to find cures for lots of ailments
before any of us see the perfect game of football. The quest
goes on ---at the expense of the game!
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Re: D COOTE - Brighton v Soton
DIR By: Claretman
Date: December 8, 2020, 3:43 am
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> PGMOL have even surprised me with a statement...
>
> They’ve said the video review area was not required due to the
decision being a factual one.
>
> A bland, boring and frankly odious response to a decision.
>
> I look forward to hearing what Hackett thinks of it....
>
--- End Quote ---
Personally i dont think it was a factual decision, from the
distance the free kick was given outside the penalty area,
You would assume the referee blew for the first offence. If this
is the case then var can only judge on the
First offence. If the pgmol are intimating in their statement
that mr coote didnt blow for the initial foul then fair enough
then the var can intervene if a clear and obvious error had been
made, but the only way to be sure is to hear the audio between
ref and var as in other sports.
I thought mr coote handled the game very well in general and
seems to developing well, a bit of a surprise to me
As i wasnt particularly impressed by him when sg2.
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Re: D COOTE - Brighton v Soton
DIR By: Seagull
Date: December 8, 2020, 4:34 am
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As a Seagulls fan, my opinion is that it was so borderline
whether the foul was outside or inside the penalty area that the
"benefit of the doubt" should have prevailed and the original
on-field decision by Mr. Coote should have stood. The replays
from various angles were too inconclusive, in my opinion, for
Mr. Bankes to make a finite decision. My suggestion that the
replays were inconclusive is supported by the number of times
(about 15?) that Mr. Bankes evidently needed to view the
incident before coming to a decision. If it's that unclear,
which I suggest it was, then the original decision should stand.
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