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       Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: December 6, 2020, 1:20 pm
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       --- Quote from: They Are Getting Worse link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=1979.msg23848#msg23848
       date=1607278462]
       > Aye, blame the officials when there are players all over the
       field doing everything they can to 'con' the officials.
       >
       > A competitive derby game which he has allowed to flow as much
       as possible once the initial spate of early fouls by both teams
       had been dealt with in a correct manner without going over the
       top with issuiing cards ---I think  that they call it common
       sense, something which the authorities seem to be trying to
       eradicate in their quest to make human officials into robots.
       >
       > I do hope that Martin continues to be truly shocking, he may
       still be a help in rescuinng the game from the downward spiral,
       however, I think that he may well retire before it totally
       becomes a non-contact sport.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So Xhaka throwing his body across Kane's midriff to stop him
       shooting on the edge of the area, one of the most cynical you
       will see, and not getting a yellow card is common sense?  What a
       load of nonsense!  It's a foul and a yellow card all day, every
       day of any professional football match.
       [/quote]
       It was nothing more nor nothing less than a foul and a free kick
       was given. There simply is no need for the obsession for yellow
       cards which proliferates in English Premier League football
       these days --even great tackles are being rewarded with yellow
       cards.
       I will agree that things are definitely getting worse ever since
       the 2018 World Cup when FIFA started interfering with the
       decisions by onfield officials.
       Mind you, it will get even worse until someone sees sense and
       lets officials do their job without outside interference.
       #Post#: 23858--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
   DIR By: robbie_scouse
       Date: December 6, 2020, 2:26 pm
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       If you’re setting that performance as the bar for
       “embarrassment” and “shocking” you’re going to be in for some
       serious surprises between now and the end of the season!
       #Post#: 23860--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
   DIR By: guest42
       Date: December 6, 2020, 3:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: They Are Getting Worse link ---
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       > [quote author=BAFRA #217 link=topic=1979.msg23845#msg23845
       date=1607277590]
       > You a Spurs fan by any chance?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       And...???  Which of my comments for and against are incorrect,
       exactly???
       [/quote]
       I think everyone else in this thread has pointed your deficiency
       in the argument (if there was one to even begin with) quite
       nicely.
       #Post#: 23868--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: December 6, 2020, 5:37 pm
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       Xhaka prevented a very likely goal from Kane by committing that
       foul, how it went unpunished does not make any sense.
       Particularly when you compare to Lo Celso's yellow for next to
       nothing on the half-way line.  Madness.
       And Paul Tierney deciding that Pereira committed violent conduct
       today was an even bigger joke, what was he looking at!?!?  The
       same man on VAR who decided Son's "kick" on Rudiger last season
       was a red.  It is NOT violent conduct!
       #Post#: 23872--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
   DIR By: QuoCob
       Date: December 7, 2020, 1:34 am
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       --- Quote from: They Are Getting Worse link ---
       >
       > Xhaka prevented a very likely goal from Kane by committing
       that foul, how it went unpunished does not make any sense.
       Particularly when you compare to Lo Celso's yellow for next to
       nothing on the half-way line.  Madness.
       >
       > And Paul Tierney deciding that Pereira committed violent
       conduct today was an even bigger joke, what was he looking
       at!?!?  The same man on VAR who decided Son's "kick" on Rudiger
       last season was a red.  It is NOT violent conduct!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you not heeded the advice to be aware of the Laws before
       posting?
       You do know/realise that you are on a Referees message board?
       #Post#: 23875--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: December 7, 2020, 3:35 am
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       Psalm 58 verses 4 and 5
       #Post#: 23944--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: December 7, 2020, 3:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: QuoCob link ---
       >
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1979.msg23868#msg23868 date=1607297830]
       > Xhaka prevented a very likely goal from Kane by committing
       that foul, how it went unpunished does not make any sense.
       Particularly when you compare to Lo Celso's yellow for next to
       nothing on the half-way line.  Madness.
       >
       > And Paul Tierney deciding that Pereira committed violent
       conduct today was an even bigger joke, what was he looking
       at!?!?  The same man on VAR who decided Son's "kick" on Rudiger
       last season was a red.  It is NOT violent conduct!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you not heeded the advice to be aware of the Laws before
       posting?
       You do know/realise that you are on a Referees message board?
       [/quote]
       No laws wrong in what I've said in that post, just incompetence
       from Martin Atkinson and Paul Tierney in their inabilities to
       see what is a yellow card offence.  Truly shocking decisions.
       And we've seen another one courtesy of VAR Peter Bankes tonight.
       Ones that most pundits and players just do not agree with week
       after week!
       #Post#: 23960--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: December 7, 2020, 4:21 pm
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       --- Quote from: They Are Getting Worse link ---
       >
       > [quote author=QuoCob link=topic=1979.msg23872#msg23872
       date=1607326443]
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1979.msg23868#msg23868 date=1607297830]
       > Xhaka prevented a very likely goal from Kane by committing
       that foul, how it went unpunished does not make any sense.
       Particularly when you compare to Lo Celso's yellow for next to
       nothing on the half-way line.  Madness.
       >
       > And Paul Tierney deciding that Pereira committed violent
       conduct today was an even bigger joke, what was he looking
       at!?!?  The same man on VAR who decided Son's "kick" on Rudiger
       last season was a red.  It is NOT violent conduct!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you not heeded the advice to be aware of the Laws before
       posting?
       You do know/realise that you are on a Referees message board?
       [/quote]
       No laws wrong in what I've said in that post, just incompetence
       from Martin Atkinson and Paul Tierney in their inabilities to
       see what is a yellow card offence.  Truly shocking decisions.
       And we've seen another one courtesy of VAR Peter Bankes tonight.
       Ones that most pundits and players just do not agree with week
       after week!
       [/quote]
       Correct VAR decision tonight because the foul started outside
       the box and continued on into it, therefore, a penalty is
       correct. All modern fans want correct decisions whereas I do not
       agree with VAR at all.
       Pundits are not worth the money they are paid whic his why I
       watch with the sound turned off and listen to some smashing old
       vinyl and am not influenced by anything except how good the
       music is.
       #Post#: 23965--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: December 7, 2020, 4:34 pm
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       I thought mr atkinson had a good game, i thought he refereed
       using his vast experience, an old fashioned
       Type of performance. He let the game flow and kept control very
       well.
       The more i watch games with var in england, i am inclined to
       agree with you ashington we shouldnt have it.
       Where it was one mans decision and final before now it the
       opinions of two refs who might not agree with each other. I am
       also sure after mr scott overruled the var refs have been
       advised not to in future.
       I Cant say i agree with you that var got tonights decision
       right, but a matter of opinions.
       #Post#: 23968--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: December 7, 2020, 4:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: Claretman link ---
       >
       > I thought mr atkinson had a good game, i thought he refereed
       using his vast experience, an old fashioned
       > Type of performance. He let the game flow and kept control
       very well.
       >
       > The more i watch games with var in england, i am inclined to
       agree with you ashington we shouldnt have it.
       > Where it was one mans decision and final before now it the
       opinions of two refs who might not agree with each other. I am
       also sure after mr scott overruled the var refs have been
       advised not to in future.
       > I Cant say i agree with you that var got tonights decision
       right, but a matter of opinions.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       My point is that it must have been correct because it was given
       by VAR and VAR is all powerful in the modern game ---it can
       overturn decisions, see things that onfield officials can't is
       the weapon of FIFA in its attempts to change the game beyond
       recognition etc., etc. ad nauseam.
       I must not say any more because I get chastised because I state
       my mind about the subject and it upsets a few because I won't
       let it drop.
       Sorry to all I offend, it's a shame it's not TV because I could
       give you a numer to call if you have been upset.
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