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#Post#: 23172--------------------------------------------------
D Coote (VAR) - Liverpool v Leicester- NOT!
DIR By: bruntyboy
Date: November 18, 2020, 6:31 pm
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Who can explain this about turn?
HTML https://talksport.com/football/790622/david-coote-var-liverpool-leicester-jordan-pickford-virgil-van-dijk/
HTML https://talksport.com/football/791385/david-coote-liverpool-vs-leicester-var-man-utd-west-brom/
Edited out - didn't feel it was necessary! bmb
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Re: D Coote (VAR) - Liverpool v Leicester- NOT!
DIR By: REDSTRIPE
Date: November 19, 2020, 4:53 am
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> Who can explain this about turn?
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HTML https://talksport.com/football/790622/david-coote-var-liverpool-leicester-jordan-pickford-virgil-van-dijk/
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HTML https://talksport.com/football/791385/david-coote-liverpool-vs-leicester-var-man-utd-west-brom/
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> Edited out - didn't feel it was necessary! bmb
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Operational reasons my ass lol
#Post#: 23179--------------------------------------------------
Re: D Coote (VAR) - Liverpool v Leicester- NOT!
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: November 19, 2020, 8:03 am
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I thought it was a rather poor appointment on Monday. There was
no need to appoint him to that game on Sunday. It still feels
very soon after the Everton game and is one of the highest
profile fixtures of the weekend, given it's 3rd against 1st. It
was always going to create headlines and a negative reaction,
especially as it's an international break and so there's not as
much day to day to talk about as there might normally be.
But having made the appointment, it now looks even worse that
he's been taken off it - regardless of what the reason may or
may not be. The presumption is going to be it's because of the
inevitable reaction so it now looks to the outside like they're
just giving in to public pressure.
The whole thing could so easily have been avoided by appointing
him as VAR to Sheffield United V West Ham instead on Monday.
#Post#: 23181--------------------------------------------------
Re: D Coote (VAR) - Liverpool v Leicester- NOT!
DIR By: nemesis
Date: November 19, 2020, 8:18 am
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
>
> I thought it was a rather poor appointment on Monday. There
was no need to appoint him to that game on Sunday. It still
feels very soon after the Everton game and is one of the highest
profile fixtures of the weekend, given it's 3rd against 1st. It
was always going to create headlines and a negative reaction,
especially as it's an international break and so there's not as
much day to day to talk about as there might normally be.
>
> But having made the appointment, it now looks even worse that
he's been taken off it - regardless of what the reason may or
may not be. The presumption is going to be it's because of the
inevitable reaction so it now looks to the outside like they're
just giving in to public pressure.
>
> The whole thing could so easily have been avoided by
appointing him as VAR to Sheffield United V West Ham instead on
Monday.
>
--- End Quote ---
Or make appointments on merit and don't put him anywhere near a
VAR !
#Post#: 23183--------------------------------------------------
Re: D Coote (VAR) - Liverpool v Leicester- NOT!
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: November 19, 2020, 9:09 am
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--- Quote from: nemesis link ---
>
> [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1932.msg23179#msg23179
date=1605794634]
> I thought it was a rather poor appointment on Monday. There
was no need to appoint him to that game on Sunday. It still
feels very soon after the Everton game and is one of the highest
profile fixtures of the weekend, given it's 3rd against 1st. It
was always going to create headlines and a negative reaction,
especially as it's an international break and so there's not as
much day to day to talk about as there might normally be.
>
> But having made the appointment, it now looks even worse that
he's been taken off it - regardless of what the reason may or
may not be. The presumption is going to be it's because of the
inevitable reaction so it now looks to the outside like they're
just giving in to public pressure.
>
> The whole thing could so easily have been avoided by
appointing him as VAR to Sheffield United V West Ham instead on
Monday.
>
--- End Quote ---
Or make appointments on merit and don't put him anywhere near a
VAR !
[/quote]
Or that!
I would certainly put him amongst the weakest of the SG1 as VARs
from evidence so far. I think a sensible aim would be to phase
out the weakest 4 or 5 and look to bring a different half a
dozen or so in, whether from current SG2 officials or elsewhere
(retired officials, officials lower down the pyramid,
non-officials, whatever you please!)
For balance, I think Coote has done pretty well on the pitch
since being promoted to SG1 - better than I expected really, as
I was not too convinced by him previously.
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Re: D Coote (VAR) - Liverpool v Leicester- NOT!
DIR By: Hendo
Date: November 19, 2020, 2:08 pm
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
>
> [quote author=nemesis link=topic=1932.msg23181#msg23181
date=1605795505]
> [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1932.msg23179#msg23179
date=1605794634]
> I thought it was a rather poor appointment on Monday. There
was no need to appoint him to that game on Sunday. It still
feels very soon after the Everton game and is one of the highest
profile fixtures of the weekend, given it's 3rd against 1st. It
was always going to create headlines and a negative reaction,
especially as it's an international break and so there's not as
much day to day to talk about as there might normally be.
>
> But having made the appointment, it now looks even worse that
he's been taken off it - regardless of what the reason may or
may not be. The presumption is going to be it's because of the
inevitable reaction so it now looks to the outside like they're
just giving in to public pressure.
>
> The whole thing could so easily have been avoided by
appointing him as VAR to Sheffield United V West Ham instead on
Monday.
>
--- End Quote ---
Or make appointments on merit and don't put him anywhere near a
VAR !
[/quote]
Or that!
I would certainly put him amongst the weakest of the SG1 as VARs
from evidence so far. I think a sensible aim would be to phase
out the weakest 4 or 5 and look to bring a different half a
dozen or so in, whether from current SG2 officials or elsewhere
(retired officials, officials lower down the pyramid,
non-officials, whatever you please!)
For balance, I think Coote has done pretty well on the pitch
since being promoted to SG1 - better than I expected really, as
I was not too convinced by him previously.
[/quote]
Agree with you that Coote has done well in the middle; I too was
sceptical about his promotion but have been pleasantly
surprised. His VAR abilities however leave much to be
desired.......
What I still can’t get my head round is Lee Probert being turned
down as a possible VAR official because he couldn’t take or pass
a PHYSICAL fitness test. What a complete load of 🎱
🎱!
#Post#: 23210--------------------------------------------------
Re: D Coote (VAR) - Liverpool v Leicester- NOT!
DIR By: PhiltheRef
Date: November 21, 2020, 3:08 pm
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How has he overturned that?
#Post#: 23215--------------------------------------------------
Re: D Coote (VAR) - Liverpool v Leicester- NOT!
DIR By: Tim Wills
Date: November 21, 2020, 3:59 pm
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This is a guy who has spent the last 15+ years making decisions
"live" and he must have been pretty good at it to graduate to
the Premier League. Suddenly he's burdened with VAR and he now
looks mentally all over the place. His initial instinct appears
spot on in awarding the penalty (perhaps a touch soft but
there's contact so a perfectly reasonable call) but then you
have the VAR official in his ear.
Imagine what David Coote must be thinking as he runs over to the
monitor, he's just come back from being very publically
suspended by his employers and he's just awarded a penalty but
his colleague, who has access to multiple camera angles, thinks
this is a clear and obvious error. I can't speak for the referee
(I have never met him) but if I was in his position, my brain
would be absolutely scrambled looking at the monitor.
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Re: D Coote (VAR) - Liverpool v Leicester- NOT!
DIR By: Claretman
Date: November 21, 2020, 4:28 pm
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On the evidence of this evening mr coote cant even review his on
field decision correctly at the monitor,
But then neither could mr oliver a few hours earlier at villa
park, nor good enough from fifa officials.
Var is becoming a total farce. It would appear that certain
officials and their bosses May be culpable.
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Re: D Coote (VAR) - Liverpool v Leicester- NOT!
DIR By: ajb95
Date: November 21, 2020, 4:31 pm
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--- Quote from: Claretman link ---
>
> On the evidence of this evening mr coote cant even review his
on field decision correctly at the monitor,
> But then neither could mr oliver a few hours earlier at villa
park, nor good enough from fifa officials.
> Var is becoming a total farce. It would appear that certain
officials and their bosses May be culpable.
>
--- End Quote ---
The so called “bosses” and football administrators will never
admit responsibility for mistakes!
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