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       #Post#: 22407--------------------------------------------------
       Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: October 26, 2020, 4:04 pm
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       Not quite sure where to start here.  Barnes elbows Alderweireld
       in the face and it's not even reviewed by VAR.  For me it has to
       be a yellow card minimum, I've seen players sent off for way
       less!  The Belgian stays down for just over 4 minutes getting
       bandaged up by the medical team, yes I counted, coupled with
       excess time-wasting from the home side, and somehow Mr Oliver
       decides 3 minutes are correct.  Truly baffling time-keeping, one
       wonders how he lost a whole 2 minutes of a wretched game.
       Has missed a couple of fouls on Doherty and Ndombele, plus
       Brownhill booked after 1 minute for next to nothing challenge on
       Ndombele.
       A shocking half in what has been a simple game to officiate.
       Awful game of football too...
       #Post#: 22409--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: October 26, 2020, 4:47 pm
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       Burnley seem to have suddenly decided to take their set pieces
       quicker instead of playing for a dull 0-0.  They might yet nick
       a point here though with Spurs' defending...
       #Post#: 22410--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: October 26, 2020, 4:49 pm
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       Awful challenge there from Lamela, has to be at least a yellow
       card and VAR review.  Cannot understand this officiating and the
       adaptation of VAR in this country by our "Select Group".
       #Post#: 22411--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: October 26, 2020, 5:10 pm
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       We won't even mention Son rolling around because he kicked an
       opponents foot and got him booked or Lamela's challenge on
       McNeill which didn't  even merit a free kick and, in the modern
       game, could have been seen as a RC with studs showing.
       Yes, things are definitely getting worse and Spurs will have to
       improve if  they are going to win anything this season. 62%
       possesssion and managed 9 shots.
       #Post#: 22412--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: October 26, 2020, 5:21 pm
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       Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver more
       than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being sarcastic,
       it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the mark with
       your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution, yes it
       was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping a
       promising attack so is a mandatory caution.
       #Post#: 22413--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: October 26, 2020, 5:21 pm
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       Maybe if Burnley go for games a bit more by playing some
       football through the lines, they would be higher up the table.
       Dreadful performance from both sides, one trying to suck the
       life out of it as they do game-in, game out, and the other
       lethargic and for once fortunate to nick an undeserved win.
       The kick on Heung-Min Son at the end by Kevin Long was a little
       bit nasty in how late it was, but a standard yellow card.  Dyche
       whinging and shouting at Oliver at the final whistle but I'm not
       quite sure why....
       #Post#: 22414--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: October 26, 2020, 5:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver
       more than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being
       sarcastic, it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the
       mark with your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution,
       yes it was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping
       a promising attack so is a mandatory caution.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       For me there wasn't a great deal in it.  I agree with 1st minute
       of last is irrelevant for sure, we see too many officials not
       give yellows because it's early in the game which is bad, but in
       this case it was not enough for my opinion.
       #Post#: 22415--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: October 26, 2020, 5:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver
       more than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being
       sarcastic, it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the
       mark with your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution,
       yes it was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping
       a promising attack so is a mandatory caution.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Did you really think that that was a promising attack with the
       way Spurs played all night?
       #Post#: 22416--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
   DIR By: Ref Fan
       Date: October 26, 2020, 5:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver
       more than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being
       sarcastic, it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the
       mark with your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution,
       yes it was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping
       a promising attack so is a mandatory caution.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's interesting - must be a first!
       I wasn't too concerned when Oliver only gave the free kick for
       the aerial challenge by Barnes.  When 2 players jump like that,
       it's difficult if not impossible to keep your arms by your side.
       Personally, I felt it was sensible refereeing and I thought
       Oliver was controlling a potentially tough game very well, but
       was surprised Lamela wasn't penalised for that challenge near
       the end with a YC.  Both Taylor and Oliver have now been very
       lenient with him in the space of a couple of weeks.
       #Post#: 22417--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: October 26, 2020, 5:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=1880.msg22412#msg22412
       date=1603750860]
       > Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver
       more than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being
       sarcastic, it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the
       mark with your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution,
       yes it was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping
       a promising attack so is a mandatory caution.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Did you really think that that was a promising attack with the
       way Spurs played all night?
       [/quote]
       If you pull someone back and chop them down the skill level or
       level of the game is irrelevant.  If that was on Hackney Marshes
       on a Sunday morning it would still be a caution as it was a
       tactical foul, and notably the player had no complaints
       whatsoever about it.
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