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#Post#: 22365--------------------------------------------------
Kevin Friend, Southampton v Everton
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: October 26, 2020, 4:44 am
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I have noted in today's Times that the Everton manager Carlo
Ancelotti has claimed that referee Kevin Friend "may have been
influenced by the acrimonious fallout from last week's
Merseyside derby when he made the 'joke' decision to send off
Lucas Digne yesterday".
I have not yet seen the incident in question, so cannot comment
on whether he is justified in calling it a 'joke' decision (?
presumably reviewed by the VAR). However I do deplore the
suggestion of influence in a referee's decision. I have a lot of
time for Carlo who I think is a very good manager, but not on
this occasion. Where is the evidence? In my view, there is no
justification whatsoever for comments of this sort in the
national press.
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Re: Kevin Friend, Southampton v Everton
DIR By: REDSTRIPE
Date: October 26, 2020, 6:10 am
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ridiculous comments by Carlo..............mind you I didn't
think it was a red
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Re: Kevin Friend, Southampton v Everton
DIR By: Failed Ref
Date: October 26, 2020, 6:24 am
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It was a foul. It endangered the safety of an opponent - a rake
down the back of the heels. Looked nasty. Whether it was
deliberate, an attempt to bring down the player I cannot really
say but it was one of those where a player gets directly in
front of another, perhaps the one in front slows down and there
is a convenient "tangle of legs". Note that the tackler had
previously lost the ball and was trying to have another go.
Jamie Rednapp slammed the decision saying it happens in football
all the time (IMHO it doesn't). I just cannot be sure about the
decision and would like to hear what other experts think - it
was a foul and dangerous.
Carlo out of order. No evidence, questioning integrity etc. FA
charge should follow.
#Post#: 22372--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kevin Friend, Southampton v Everton
DIR By: Seagull
Date: October 26, 2020, 6:51 am
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For me, it was a definite RC, accidental or otherwise. In my
opinion, Mr. Ancelotti is talking rubbish.
#Post#: 22373--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kevin Friend, Southampton v Everton
DIR By: Mackem ref
Date: October 26, 2020, 7:16 am
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I agree Seagull - I thought Friend got it spot on. Dangerous
challenge - the type of which often goes under punished IMO.
Well done Mr Friend!
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Re: Kevin Friend, Southampton v Everton
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: October 26, 2020, 7:36 am
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Modern game moving nearer and nearer to non-contact. Lose the
ball, don't try to get it back just let the player run away and
when you are running don't ever dare to put your foot on the
pitch, learn to fly because you may accidentally step on someone
and endanger him so much that he wouldn't manage to play on for
another 24 minutes without problem.
I agree with Frank Lampard, it used to happen in 1962 when I
started playing at senior level and it will continue to happen
when players are chasing players, in fact, there were aat least
four other instances in that one game where a player stood on
another.
I wonder how one of Southampton's past players would have looked
at that incident. Brian O'Neill, the Bedlington Terrier, would
be a marked man these days, he was as hard as nails and a tough
cookie but played hard and fair. He wouldn't survive 5 minutes
in the modern PL, along with Stuart Pearce, Jaap Stam, Patrick
Viera, Roy Keane et al.
#Post#: 22378--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kevin Friend, Southampton v Everton
DIR By: Irishref1985
Date: October 26, 2020, 8:38 am
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If it wasn't a straight RC it was two yellows as both his first
challenge (advantage played) and his second challenge were two
of the clearest yellow cards of all time.
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Re: Kevin Friend, Southampton v Everton
DIR By: Seagull
Date: October 26, 2020, 9:35 am
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--- Quote from: Mackem ref link ---
>
> I agree Seagull - I thought Friend got it spot on. Dangerous
challenge - the type of which often goes under punished IMO.
Well done Mr Friend!
>
--- End Quote ---
This is Dermot Gallagher's view on Sky Sports. "I think you've
got to give a red card for that. I've spoken to a lot of people
who think otherwise but when you put your studs down somebody's
Achilles you are always going to be sent off for serious foul
play. I fully accept he didn't mean to do it and he didn't mean
to be malicious, but there are a lot of tackles that players
make that are not meant to be, that are mistimed and clumsy and
they get sent off."
I think that says it all and confirms our opinions.
#Post#: 22393--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kevin Friend, Southampton v Everton
DIR By: rustyref
Date: October 26, 2020, 12:00 pm
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Really struggling to see how there can be any complaints. Even
if it was accidental, and I'm far from convinced it was, there
can be no argument whatsoever that it endangered the opponent.
#Post#: 22401--------------------------------------------------
Re: Kevin Friend, Southampton v Everton
DIR By: Ref Fan
Date: October 26, 2020, 1:20 pm
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It was never going to be a RC decision for which VAR would
recommend a review on the monitor. Red seemed a reasonable
decision to me. Not sure if VAR would have intervened had Friend
gone Yellow.
Interesting though that Hackett & Halsey who usually are at one
on these debates had different opinions if I understood their
respective twitter posts correctly.
Halsey said Red for endangering an opponent while Hackett
thought the foul reckless and therefore only a YC.
I suspect we've all seen worse, or even far worse, that have
been sanctioned more leniently, and it's that inconsistency that
is so annoying.
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