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       #Post#: 21949--------------------------------------------------
       Merseyside Derby
   DIR By: Jake the Peg
       Date: October 17, 2020, 6:49 am
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       Can someone explain the law on offside in the event a serious
       foul is committed on the offside player please?  I was
       astonished that Pickford escaped without censure despite putting
       Van Dijk out of the game - clearly endangering the safety of an
       opponent??
       #Post#: 21950--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Merseyside Derby
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: October 17, 2020, 7:08 am
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       If the offside offence occurs first then it it the offence
       punished, as defined by the LOTG.
       #Post#: 21952--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Merseyside Derby
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: October 17, 2020, 7:24 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
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       > If the offside offence occurs first then it it the offence
       punished, as defined by the LOTG.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       They couldn't give the penalty if the offside came first but
       they could - and indeed should - have given a yellow card for a
       reckless foul or a red card for SFP.
       If it had happened the other way round (offside not initially
       given) and a penalty was given and a goalkeeper given the above
       sanction, then VAR could withdraw the penalty for offside but
       the sanction given would still stand (presuming the red card
       element wasn't a clear and obvious error.)
       #Post#: 21953--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Merseyside Derby
   DIR By: Jake the Peg
       Date: October 17, 2020, 7:30 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > If the offside offence occurs first then it it the offence
       punished, as defined by the LOTG.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That wasn't my point.  Peter Walton thinks it was a red card.
       The offside is irrelevant - if a player is offside and a keeper
       comes out and punches him in the face, is that OK because the
       player was offside??
       #Post#: 21954--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Merseyside Derby
   DIR By: Irishref1985
       Date: October 17, 2020, 7:31 am
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       The easiest red card of the season.... What the hell is David
       Coote watching?
       #Post#: 21955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Merseyside Derby
   DIR By: Game of Throw Ins
       Date: October 17, 2020, 7:35 am
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       Several years ago I saw Mike Dean show a player a yellow card,
       the player’s second, for a tackle after the opponent had been
       flagged offside so I don’t understand why Michael Oliver and
       David Coote feel no action can be taken because a flag was
       raised.
       #Post#: 21956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Merseyside Derby
   DIR By: Matt
       Date: October 17, 2020, 7:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Irishref1985 link ---
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       > The easiest red card of the season.... What the hell is David
       Coote watching?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Apparently too focussed on the offside.
  HTML https://twitter.com/dalejohnsonespn/status/1317447073227296769?s=21
       #Post#: 21958--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Merseyside Derby
   DIR By: SuffolkRef
       Date: October 17, 2020, 8:02 am
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       --- Quote from: Matt link ---
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       > [quote author=Irishref1985 link=topic=1851.msg21954#msg21954
       date=1602937873]
       > The easiest red card of the season.... What the hell is David
       Coote watching?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Apparently too focussed on the offside.
  HTML https://twitter.com/dalejohnsonespn/status/1317447073227296769?s=21
       [/quote]
       He doesn't exactly have the best record when it comes to
       decision making as a VAR official.
       #Post#: 21959--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Merseyside Derby
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: October 17, 2020, 8:08 am
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       --- Quote from: Jake the Peg link ---
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       > [quote author=bmb link=topic=1851.msg21950#msg21950
       date=1602936532]
       > If the offside offence occurs first then it it the offence
       punished, as defined by the LOTG.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That wasn't my point.  Peter Walton thinks it was a red card.
       The offside is irrelevant - if a player is offside and a keeper
       comes out and punches him in the face, is that OK because the
       player was offside??
       [/quote]
       No that should be dealt with. The only difference would be if it
       was classed as Serious foul play or Violent conduct. You didn't
       mention what the incident was in your first post just that you
       didn't think Pickford should escape sanction so I answered in
       general terms.  The offside is the offence dealt with because it
       came first but yes of course a red card offence should be dealt
       with.
       I'm not watching it - I'm watching Budafok v DVTK! Budafok are
       winning 1-0! Mr Iványi and his team are clad in blue shirts!
       #Post#: 21960--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Merseyside Derby
   DIR By: Irishref1985
       Date: October 17, 2020, 8:30 am
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       And as for the offside in injury time... utter bo***x
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