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       A Taylor. - M United v Spurs - Topics merged
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: October 4, 2020, 11:15 am
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       I can understand why Taylor has sent off martial
       But surely Lamela should have equal punishment for pushing
       martial in the face first??
       And what about the rolling and around afterwards- embarrassing
       footballer - should have been booked for play acting
       #Post#: 21602--------------------------------------------------
       Anthony Taylor, Penchester United vs. Tottenham
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: October 4, 2020, 11:17 am
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       30 seconds in, the softest of penalties following ridiculous
       defending from Davinson Sanchez.  Taylor falls for Martial
       sticking his leg out all day long.  VAR can't overturn because
       it's not clear and obvious, for me it's not enough....
       Martial sent-off for the softest of slaps to the twerp Lamela's
       face.  This is very reminiscent of Son against Chelsea's Rudiger
       last year - he's provoked, flicks out and is harshly sent-off.
       Same official, same unfair handling of the two players involved
       without a doubt.  Martial & Lamela either both get the yellow
       for pettiness, or both sent-off if the official's being strict.
       Bailly then appears to stamp on Kane's leg, but looking at the
       replay they've got this one right as he lands on the leg rather
       than deliberately stamps.
       Not impressed as usual, and I said last week I wouldn't bother
       again with the PL due to the handball rule, VAR and our
       officials....
       #Post#: 21604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A Taylor. - M United v Spurs 
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: October 4, 2020, 11:20 am
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > I can understand why Taylor has sent off martial
       >
       > But surely Lamela should have equal punishment for pushing
       martial in the face first??
       >
       > And what about the rolling and around afterwards- embarrassing
       footballer - should have been booked for play acting
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       How Lamela has never had a red card in his Spurs career is
       baffling full stop.  edited out - do not question the honesty &
       integrity of the match officials, bmb. extremely harsh and
       unfair handling of the incident.
       #Post#: 21606--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A Taylor. - M United v Spurs 
   DIR By: guest42
       Date: October 4, 2020, 11:29 am
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       Edited - please do not accuse players of cheating unless you are
       willing to repeat that accusation in a court of law.
       Why didn’t VAR intervene?
       #Post#: 21609--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A Taylor. - M United v Spurs 
   DIR By: Ref Fan
       Date: October 4, 2020, 11:34 am
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       It's incidents like that when you begin to wonder if a referee
       has much empathy for the game.  Out of interest, did Lamela get
       his YC for that tap on Martial or a later foul when he pulled
       back a United player as they broke from their own half.
       If the law says you can poke a fellow in the neck and it's ok
       but if he happen to tap him on the face, it's a RC then that's
       something else that needs looking at.
       As for Lamela falling as if shot, he should have been cautioned
       for that alone.
       To put it another way, if Michael Oliver had dealt with that
       incident in that way, I would have been very disappointed.
       #Post#: 21612--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A Taylor. - M United v Spurs 
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: October 4, 2020, 12:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ref Fan link ---
       >
       > It's incidents like that when you begin to wonder if a referee
       has much empathy for the game.  Out of interest, did Lamela get
       his YC for that tap on Martial or a later foul when he pulled
       back a United player as they broke from their own half.
       >
       > If the law says you can poke a fellow in the neck and it's ok
       but if he happen to tap him on the face, it's a RC then that's
       something else that needs looking at.
       >
       > As for Lamela falling as if shot, he should have been
       cautioned for that alone.
       >
       > To put it another way, if Michael Oliver had dealt with that
       incident in that way, I would have been very disappointed.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       
       I agree maybe Taylor didn’t think about the 18th law of common
       sense
       Taylor has totally ruined this game - how someone can say he is
       the best England have to offer the world - do one!
       A nasty horrible foul from Shaw - yellow card! Not even
       reviewed?!
       #Post#: 21614--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A Taylor. - M United v Spurs - Topics merged
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: October 4, 2020, 12:28 pm
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       More complete codswallop from Taylor.
       Lamela should have gone, Shaw should have gone for his lunge on
       Moura.
       #Post#: 21615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A Taylor. - M United v Spurs - Topics merged
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: October 4, 2020, 12:29 pm
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       This feels like an incident where a rigid implementation of
       'clear and obvious' for VAR doesn't really lead to a
       'fair/balanced' outcome.
       I'd probably agree that either both should have gone or both
       should have got yellow but that means that in isolation red or
       no red isn't clearly wrong for each player so VAR doesn't
       intervene.
       I'm not sure if Taylor had a full view of Lamela's part - it
       could have been reviewed as a serious missed incident if not. I
       don't think the VAR process would downgrade Martial's red but
       perhaps on a different day Lamela would have gone too from it.
       I think there were worse challenges where no red card was shown.
       #Post#: 21617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A Taylor. - M United v Spurs - Topics merged
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: October 4, 2020, 12:33 pm
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       Spurs with a penalty against Man United.  My goodness this
       really is a strange old year.  I believe it's the first ever
       Spurs league penalty against Man United, I certainly can't
       remember one before - at the 57th attempt, but does anyone know
       of where this can be verified?  If true it's a staggering
       statistic....
       United got extremely cynical and crude in that second half,
       Bailly, Pogba and Shaw with very dangerous fouls.  Pogba's was
       debatable but still studs-up and out of control.  Shaw's was a
       cast-iron red card, chopped down Moura and that could have been
       a season-ending injury from a deliberate hack.  Bailly with
       studs down Son's achilles.  There's a way to lose, and that
       certainly wasn't it, should have ended with 8 men for me.
       Everyone agree?
       An awful day for United's £500m+ starting line-up, why are their
       fans blaming their board!!??  Blame the so-called top class, top
       money players surely!? Investment there has been seconded only
       by 2 clubs in the last 20 years!!
       #Post#: 21618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A Taylor. - M United v Spurs 
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: October 4, 2020, 12:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Ref Fan link=topic=1821.msg21609#msg21609
       date=1601829272]
       > It's incidents like that when you begin to wonder if a referee
       has much empathy for the game.  Out of interest, did Lamela get
       his YC for that tap on Martial or a later foul when he pulled
       back a United player as they broke from their own half.
       >
       > If the law says you can poke a fellow in the neck and it's ok
       but if he happen to tap him on the face, it's a RC then that's
       something else that needs looking at.
       >
       > As for Lamela falling as if shot, he should have been
       cautioned for that alone.
       >
       > To put it another way, if Michael Oliver had dealt with that
       incident in that way, I would have been very disappointed.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       
       I agree maybe Taylor didn’t think about the 18th law of common
       sense
       Taylor has totally ruined this game - how someone can say he is
       the best England have to offer the world - do one!
       A nasty horrible foul from Shaw - yellow card! Not even
       reviewed?!
       [/quote]
       It wasn't actually a foul, I'd have sent him off for kicking an
       opponent.
       Pathetic on so many counts from Taylor.
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