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       #Post#: 21478--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Referees locations 
   DIR By: QuoCob
       Date: September 30, 2020, 11:55 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > It doesn’t bode well.. the most southern official in SG1 is
       Hooper..... 🧐🧐🧐
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Although there are a couple who reside in the BH postcode area
       of the country for the majority of the season?  ;D
       #Post#: 21483--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Referees locations 
   DIR By: thesensibleone
       Date: September 30, 2020, 1:40 pm
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       Anyone know efl/sg2 please
       I know Coote is from Nottingham rather than West Midlands as he
       was my rdo
       #Post#: 21486--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Referees locations 
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: September 30, 2020, 2:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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       > [quote author=dave26 link=topic=1806.msg21452#msg21452
       date=1601451672]
       > Martin Atkinson ( Bradford)
       > Stuart Attwell ( Nuneaton )
       > Peter Bankes ( Merseyside )
       > David Coote ( West Midlands )
       > Mike Dean ( Heswall )
       > Kevin Friend ( Leicester )
       > Simon Hooper ( Wiltshire )
       > Chris Kavanagh ( Ashton )
       > Andy Madley ( South Yorkshire )
       > Andre Marriner ( Solihull )
       > Lee Mason ( Lancashire )
       > Jon Moss ( West Yorkshire )
       > Michael Oliver (Northumberland )
       > Craig Pawson ( South Yorkshire )
       > Graham Scott ( Oxford )
       > Anthony Taylor ( Wythenshawe)
       > Paul Tierney ( Lancashire )
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I thought sandy Madley was Osset, West Yorkshire?? Can he do
       Leeds and or Sheffield Utd?? Can Bankes do Everton or Liverpool?
       [/quote]
       The county used to be referred to as Heavy Woollen. Don't know
       if that's still the case.
       #Post#: 21495--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Referees locations 
   DIR By: exile
       Date: October 1, 2020, 3:29 am
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1806.msg21454#msg21454
       date=1601454124]
       > [quote author=dave26 link=topic=1806.msg21452#msg21452
       date=1601451672]
       > Martin Atkinson ( Bradford)
       > Stuart Attwell ( Nuneaton )
       > Peter Bankes ( Merseyside )
       > David Coote ( West Midlands )
       > Mike Dean ( Heswall )
       > Kevin Friend ( Leicester )
       > Simon Hooper ( Wiltshire )
       > Chris Kavanagh ( Ashton )
       > Andy Madley ( South Yorkshire )
       > Andre Marriner ( Solihull )
       > Lee Mason ( Lancashire )
       > Jon Moss ( West Yorkshire )
       > Michael Oliver (Northumberland )
       > Craig Pawson ( South Yorkshire )
       > Graham Scott ( Oxford )
       > Anthony Taylor ( Wythenshawe)
       > Paul Tierney ( Lancashire )
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I thought sandy Madley was Osset, West Yorkshire?? Can he do
       Leeds and or Sheffield Utd?? Can Bankes do Everton or Liverpool?
       [/quote]
       I remember Madley refereeing Sheffield United last season - not
       sure about Leeds.
       [/quote]
       Andy has refereed Leeds 5 times. The last one was v Wigan last
       season.
       #Post#: 21496--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Referees locations 
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: October 1, 2020, 3:47 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1806.msg21454#msg21454
       date=1601454124]
       > I thought sandy Madley was Osset, West Yorkshire?? Can he do
       Leeds and or Sheffield Utd?? Can Bankes do Everton or Liverpool?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The postcode rule went out of the window years ago now. Can't
       remember when but certainly a few years. The location question
       still pops up every season despite being irrelevant!
       It doesn't matter if a referee lives right next door to a FL/PL
       ground they can referee the team that plays there unless they or
       immediate family members support the club or are employed at the
       club. Things like one of their kids in the academy would exclude
       them.  There are some additional bits eg a Newcastle fan is
       unlikely to referee Sunderland either but it's nothing to do
       with where they live or what county FA they are registered with
       now.
       [/quote]
       More's the pity, in my opinion, BMB. Neutrality should be "seen
       to be done". I believe that officiating local clubs leaves the
       door open for accusations of bias, especially if contentious
       incidents occur, even if the decision is correct. However, it is
       what it is now.
       #Post#: 21507--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Referees locations 
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: October 1, 2020, 9:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Seagull link ---
       >
       > [quote author=bmb link=topic=1806.msg21469#msg21469
       date=1601474760]
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1806.msg21454#msg21454
       date=1601454124]
       > I thought sandy Madley was Osset, West Yorkshire?? Can he do
       Leeds and or Sheffield Utd?? Can Bankes do Everton or Liverpool?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The postcode rule went out of the window years ago now. Can't
       remember when but certainly a few years. The location question
       still pops up every season despite being irrelevant!
       It doesn't matter if a referee lives right next door to a FL/PL
       ground they can referee the team that plays there unless they or
       immediate family members support the club or are employed at the
       club. Things like one of their kids in the academy would exclude
       them.  There are some additional bits eg a Newcastle fan is
       unlikely to referee Sunderland either but it's nothing to do
       with where they live or what county FA they are registered with
       now.
       [/quote]
       More's the pity, in my opinion, BMB. Neutrality should be "seen
       to be done". I believe that officiating local clubs leaves the
       door open for accusations of bias, especially if contentious
       incidents occur, even if the decision is correct. However, it is
       what it is now.
       [/quote]
       I both agree and don't.  I get the logic and can agree with that
       but it always seemed silly to me that Keith Stroud couldn't
       referee AFCB when he lived right at the other end of the county
       to us and had a BH postcode but could referee us when he moved
       just over the Hants border despite geographically being far
       closer to the ground. He could come & do pitch inspections and
       often did but then if he passed the pitch some poor ref had to
       drive down in inclement weather from Yorkshire (Craig Pawson one
       Boxing Day springs to mind) and hope that they could get back
       home safely afterwards. Just made a bit of a mockery to me.
       #Post#: 21513--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Referees locations 
   DIR By: tomp
       Date: October 1, 2020, 12:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: thesensibleone link ---
       >
       > Anyone know efl/sg2 please
       >
       > I know Coote is from Nottingham rather than West Midlands as
       he was my rdo
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Select Group 2
       Darren Bond- Lancashire
       John Brooks- Leicestershire
       Andy Davies- Hampshire
       Matthew Donohue- Greater Manchester
       Leigh Doughty- Lancashire
       Scott Duncan- Northumberland
       Geoff Eltringham- Tyne and Wear
       Jarred Gillett (Australia)- Merseyside
       Tony Harrington- Durham
       Oliver Langford- West Midlands but now based in Blackpool
       James Linington- Isle of Wight
       Steve Martin- Staffordshire
       Tim Robinson- West Sussex
       Michael Salisbury- Lancashire
       Josh Smith- Lincolnshire but now based in Bedfordshire
       Keith Stroud- Hampshire
       Gavin Ward- Surrey
       David Webb- Lancashire
       Andy Woolmer- Northamptonshire
       Dean Whitestone- Northamptonshire
       #Post#: 21514--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Referees locations 
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: October 1, 2020, 12:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: tomp link ---
       >
       > [quote author=thesensibleone link=topic=1806.msg21483#msg21483
       date=1601491254]
       > Anyone know efl/sg2 please
       >
       > I know Coote is from Nottingham rather than West Midlands as
       he was my rdo
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Select Group 2
       Darren Bond- Lancashire
       John Brooks- Leicestershire
       Andy Davies- Hampshire
       Matthew Donohue- Greater Manchester
       Leigh Doughty- Lancashire
       Scott Duncan- Northumberland
       Geoff Eltringham- Tyne and Wear
       Jarred Gillett (Australia)- Merseyside
       Tony Harrington- Durham
       Oliver Langford- West Midlands but now based in Blackpool
       James Linington- Isle of Wight
       Steve Martin- Staffordshire
       Tim Robinson- West Sussex
       Michael Salisbury- Lancashire
       Josh Smith- Lincolnshire but now based in Bedfordshire
       Keith Stroud- Hampshire
       Gavin Ward- Surrey
       David Webb- Lancashire
       Andy Woolmer- Northamptonshire
       Dean Whitestone- Northamptonshire
       [/quote]
       I thought Andy Davies was Tyne and Wear - must be a Different
       Davies???
       #Post#: 21518--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Referees locations 
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: October 1, 2020, 2:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: tomp link ---
       >
       > [quote author=thesensibleone link=topic=1806.msg21483#msg21483
       date=1601491254]
       > Anyone know efl/sg2 please
       >
       > I know Coote is from Nottingham rather than West Midlands as
       he was my rdo
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Select Group 2
       Darren Bond- Lancashire
       John Brooks- Leicestershire
       Andy Davies- Hampshire
       Matthew Donohue- Greater Manchester
       Leigh Doughty- Lancashire
       Scott Duncan- Northumberland
       Geoff Eltringham- Tyne and Wear
       Jarred Gillett (Australia)- Merseyside
       Tony Harrington- Durham
       Oliver Langford- West Midlands but now based in Blackpool
       James Linington- Isle of Wight
       Steve Martin- Staffordshire
       Tim Robinson- West Sussex
       Michael Salisbury- Lancashire
       Josh Smith- Lincolnshire but now based in Bedfordshire
       Keith Stroud- Hampshire
       Gavin Ward- Surrey
       David Webb- Lancashire
       Andy Woolmer- Northamptonshire
       Dean Whitestone- Northamptonshire
       [/quote]
       Has David Webb moved from County Durham?
       #Post#: 21521--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Referees locations 
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: October 1, 2020, 3:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: dave26 link ---
       >
       > Martin Atkinson ( Bradford)
       > Stuart Attwell ( Nuneaton )
       > Peter Bankes ( Merseyside )
       > David Coote ( Nottinghamshire )
       > Mike Dean ( Heswall )
       > Kevin Friend ( Leicester )
       > Simon Hooper ( Wiltshire )
       > Chris Kavanagh ( Ashton )
       > Andy Madley ( South Yorkshire )
       > Andre Marriner ( Solihull )
       > Lee Mason ( Lancashire )
       > Jon Moss ( West Yorkshire )
       > Michael Oliver (Northumberland )
       > Craig Pawson ( South Yorkshire )
       > Graham Scott ( Oxford )
       > Anthony Taylor ( Wythenshawe)
       > Paul Tierney ( Lancashire )
       >
       > I have edited David Coote’s location
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is my geography right in saying out of all 17 of these
       officials, only 2 can be classed as southern?  Scott & Hooper.
       If so, how can this happen??
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