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Chris Kavanagh - Brighton v Man United
DIR By: Irishref1985
Date: September 26, 2020, 8:33 am
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High drama at the end in what was a poor performance from Chris
Kavanagh. His decision making was erratic at times.
I don’t question that it was a handball for a United penalty but
the final whistle has sounded. Is that not the end of the game?
Can someone excuse my ignorance when asking how can the penalty
then be given?
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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Brighton v Man United
DIR By: ajb95
Date: September 26, 2020, 8:41 am
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--- Quote from: Irishref1985 link ---
>
> High drama at the end in what was a poor performance from
Chris Kavanagh. His decision making was erratic at times.
>
> I don’t question that it was a handball for a United penalty
but the final whistle has sounded. Is that not the end of the
game?
>
> Can someone excuse my ignorance when asking how can the
penalty then be given?
>
--- End Quote ---
One of the problems with VAR. I remember it happening in the
bundesliga, when both teams were already in the dressing rooms
but that was for half time..
Can’t argue with the fact that it was handball.
Agree a very poor performance from Kavanagh: poor foul
detection, very erratic with cards too.
Have to say Hooper has been superb on VAR and thank goodness
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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Brighton v Man United
DIR By: Carter
Date: September 26, 2020, 8:50 am
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The fact is VAR is now part of the game (I for one hate it)
Because there is a penalty appeal it is checked and rightly
given so therefore the laws allow for time to be added.
I would question how much time was added after Brighton had
scored before the corner that the penalty came from , but them
we all know the rferees cant keep the correct time.
Time for timekeepers
#Post#: 21233--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chris Kavanagh - Brighton v Man United
DIR By: QuoCob
Date: September 26, 2020, 8:53 am
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I haven't seen it but was he already going to check VAR anyway
or was he influenced by the Man Utd players surrounding him?
Talksport keep going back to The Amex to check if there are any
more penalties been awarded...
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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Brighton v Man United
DIR By: ajb95
Date: September 26, 2020, 9:08 am
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--- Quote from: QuoCob link ---
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> I haven't seen it but was he already going to check VAR anyway
or was he influenced by the Man Utd players surrounding him?
> Talksport keep going back to The Amex to check if there are
any more penalties been awarded...
>
--- End Quote ---
How can he be influenced when VAR checks everything anyway??
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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Brighton v Man United
DIR By: Ref Fan
Date: September 26, 2020, 9:29 am
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Interesting listening to the comments after the game on BT Sport
about Brighton's second penalty that was overturned after
Kavanagh was advised to look at the monitor. Peter Walton, not
surprisingly, thought it was a correct decision eventually as
not enough contact to justify a penalty. Ex United defender,
Ferdinand, disagreed and felt the original decision was
justified.
To me it was one of those that depended on which angle you
viewed it. From one, the penalty decision looked reasonable.
From another, the Brighton player appeared more to go into
Pogba.
Sean Massey-Ellis will be disappointed if she missed the offside
for one of the United disallowed goals and overall I didn't
think it was a particularly good day for the officials, with the
exception of Simon Hooper!
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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Brighton v Man United
DIR By: DublinRef
Date: September 26, 2020, 9:35 am
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All I can say is well done Simon Hooper!
Just goes to show it’s paid off making him a full time VAR
😉
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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Brighton v Man United
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: September 26, 2020, 9:55 am
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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> [quote author=QuoCob link=topic=1788.msg21233#msg21233
date=1601128412]
> I haven't seen it but was he already going to check VAR anyway
or was he influenced by the Man Utd players surrounding him?
> Talksport keep going back to The Amex to check if there are
any more penalties been awarded...
>
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How can he be influenced when VAR checks everything anyway??
[/quote]
Indeed!
At least the 4th time this season we've had two penalties in a
PL game and unusual to see three different decisions overturned
by VAR. I think Simon Hooper is one of the better VARs from what
I've seen.
I think VAR can intervene until the players have left the filed
of play. You can say that's the trouble with VAR but ultimately
it got a key match decision correct right at the end.
I believe the PGMO's general advice when VAR is checking is to
try and delay the full time whistle until they've finished
checking but obviously that requires the referee to have an idea
there's an issue.
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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Brighton v Man United
DIR By: guest3
Date: September 26, 2020, 10:20 am
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According to the VAR protocol, the review process can take place
AFTER the final whistle.
Excellent intervention by Simon Hooper.
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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Brighton v Man United
DIR By: Hendo
Date: September 26, 2020, 11:13 am
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--- Quote from: edy link ---
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> According to the VAR protocol, the review process can take
place AFTER the final whistle.
>
> Excellent intervention by Simon Hooper.
>
--- End Quote ---
How long after? Could the players be in the shower and then made
to come back?
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