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Re: UEFA Champions League 2020/2021 appointments
DIR By: nh
Date: September 8, 2020, 12:47 pm
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Kavanagh definitely looks like he's being fast tracked. Rosetti
and co. seem to rate him highly.
Also interesting to see such a senior elite official like Brych
assigned to this round. Usually we don't see the big hitters
until the play offs.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2020/2021 appointments
DIR By: guest3
Date: September 8, 2020, 1:02 pm
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Kavanagh certainly gets some big appointments. But after his
performance at the UYL final, I doubt that he is Elite material.
Strange that Brych is used on this round but I suspect that this
appointment is linked with the Greek Cup final played on 12/09.
Brych is also appointed there.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2020/2021 appointments
DIR By: ajb95
Date: September 8, 2020, 2:07 pm
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--- Quote from: edy link ---
>
> Kavanagh certainly gets some big appointments. But after his
performance at the UYL final, I doubt that he is Elite material.
>
> Strange that Brych is used on this round but I suspect that
this appointment is linked with the Greek Cup final played on
12/09. Brych is also appointed there.
>
--- End Quote ---
What happened in the UYF edy??
I think Kavanagh May well be promoted if not Jan then possibly
next June. In terms of big derbies, he’s had Liverpool v
Everton. Some would argue there is no bigger derby in the PL..
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2020/2021 appointments
DIR By: guest3
Date: September 8, 2020, 2:43 pm
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
>
> [quote author=edy link=topic=1676.msg20682#msg20682
date=1599588128]
> Kavanagh certainly gets some big appointments. But after his
performance at the UYL final, I doubt that he is Elite material.
>
> Strange that Brych is used on this round but I suspect that
this appointment is linked with the Greek Cup final played on
12/09. Brych is also appointed there.
>
--- End Quote ---
What happened in the UYF edy??
I think Kavanagh May well be promoted if not Jan then possibly
next June. In terms of big derbies, he’s had Liverpool v
Everton. Some would argue there is no bigger derby in the PL..
[/quote]
Here are some clips from the final
45' - onside call by AR2
HTML https://streamable.com/nbv5f7
59' - violent conduct by BEN #17?
HTML https://streamable.com/kme6yi
67' - penalty awarded for tripping
HTML https://streamable.com/7x9n4z
69' - penalty incident (handball)
HTML https://streamable.com/e71q07
75' - violent conduct by BEN GK?
HTML https://streamable.com/1ubf18
80' - penalty incident (holding)
HTML https://streamable.com/3efpev
83' - penalty incident (RMA goalkeeper's intervention)
HTML https://streamable.com/tl1jwy
87' - violent conduct by BEN #17?
HTML https://streamable.com/swkuy1
89' - violent conduct by BEN #17?
HTML https://streamable.com/f8d9j7
90' - violent conduct by RMA #12?
HTML https://streamable.com/zk5zty
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2020/2021 appointments
DIR By: ajb95
Date: September 8, 2020, 3:45 pm
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--- Quote from: edy link ---
>
> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1676.msg20690#msg20690
date=1599592031]
> [quote author=edy link=topic=1676.msg20682#msg20682
date=1599588128]
> Kavanagh certainly gets some big appointments. But after his
performance at the UYL final, I doubt that he is Elite material.
>
> Strange that Brych is used on this round but I suspect that
this appointment is linked with the Greek Cup final played on
12/09. Brych is also appointed there.
>
--- End Quote ---
What happened in the UYF edy??
I think Kavanagh May well be promoted if not Jan then possibly
next June. In terms of big derbies, he’s had Liverpool v
Everton. Some would argue there is no bigger derby in the PL..
[/quote]
Here are some clips from the final
45' - onside call by AR2
59' - violent conduct by BEN #17?
67' - penalty awarded for tripping
69' - penalty incident (handball)
75' - violent conduct by BEN GK?
80' - penalty incident (holding)
83' - penalty incident (RMA goalkeeper's intervention)
87' - violent conduct by BEN #17?
89' - violent conduct by BEN #17?
90' - violent conduct by RMA #12?
[/quote]
Here’s my view on these incidents. Overall I think Kavanagh has
done well with judgement but I think the way he deals with the
incidents could be stronger/vocal. Obviously I haven’t seen the
entire game so don’t know what it’s been like
Ignoring the offside:
1. Not violent conduct - hardly any contact white player makes
the most of it. Free kick maximum
2. Good decision for penalty - trip by white defender
3. Good decision - no handball by defender
4. Not VC by red goalkeeper - shoves him with shoulder into his
chest - yellow card correct decision. Maybe a yellow for awful
play acting by white 11 who goes down holding his face
5. Not sure about this penalty shout. Can’t tell from that angle
if there’s any holding, would need to see other angles
6. No foul by keeper plays ball cleanly
7. Again no VC by red 17. Little contact, white player again
overreacts makes most of it.
8. Same as before, don’t even think he touches white player
9. This one I think could have been dealt with better. Free kick
for push by white 2 is clear, but he allows them to get too
close which causes small fracas. I Think White 2 kicks out but
impossible to see clearly unless close up. Should be red card
for white 2 for VC.
I should add I can’t believe the awful play acting and
overreacting to the fouls here- and these are 17-18-19 yo kids.
Teach em young!!
Edited to remove the videos - it will slow down the site badly
for those on mobile phones. If anyone needs to look at them they
are in Edy's post. bmb x
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2020/2021 appointments
DIR By: bmb
Date: September 17, 2020, 8:20 am
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> Wednesday 16 September
>
>
> 19:00 CET - Budapest (Ferencváros Stadion)
> Ferencvárosi Torna Club (HUN) - GNK Dinamo (CRO)
> Referee: Tobias Stieler (GER)
> Assistant Referee 1: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
> Assistant Referee 2: Jan Seidel (GER)
> Fourth Official: Florian Badsttübner (GER)
> UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Messner (AUT)
> UEFA Delegate: Thibault De Gendt (BEL)
>
>
--- End Quote ---
If wanting to be picky there were some minor decisions I didn't
agree with, both ways but overall a decent enough performance
from this ref. Fitness was good, quickly built up a great
rapport with both teams, lots of talking that looked pretty
relaxed in nature. One offside call from AR2 that I don't think
was correct but we never got to see a replay because it led to a
bit of fun and games and a strippagram ref! Ref was tapping his
headset and seemed to be indicating to players of both sides
that there was a problem with the comms system, he went over to
AR2 who then lifted up the refs shirt and was having a fiddle
with something under his shirt, couldn't see what as it was the
opposite side to the cameramen. This was followed by the ref
returning to the pitch and spending some time re-adjusting
himself, which also involved partially pulling his shorts down!
Not too much on display for the ladies watching but it was a
highlight in the game!! ;D
If UEFA wish to send strippagram refs to Hungary in the future
then Missy bmb would be happy to supply a list of candidates for
the role! ;)
The Fradi fans were amazing - not allowed in the ground as per
UEFA's rules so they set up their own fanzone around the
perimeter of the ground and the noise was phenomenal. I had
praised Fradi getting the fake crowd noise spot on but it wasn't
fake, it was the fans outside! The TV company didn't show them
until the end of the game. They were literally non stop noise. I
think many will still be there celebrating! Fair play to the
Rendőrség who just let them get on with it, the
relationship between the ultras and the Rendőrség is not
the best shall we say but they weren't in overkill numbers as is
often the case and they just stood back ensuring the fans stayed
off the roads but allowing them to enjoy the occasion.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2020/2021 appointments
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: September 20, 2020, 3:13 am
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22 September 2020, 21:00 CET - Prague (Eden Arena)
SK Slavia Praha (CZE) - FC Midtjylland (DEN)
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Scott Struthers (SCO)
22 September 2020, 21:00 CET - Tel Aviv (Bloomfield Stadium)
Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) - FC Salzburg (AUT)
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: David Coote (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Andrew Madley (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka (CZE)
22 September 2020, 21:00 CET - Krasnodar (Stadium Krasnodar)
FC Krasnodar (RUS) - PAOK FC (GRE)
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Frédéric Haquette (FRA)
Fourth Official: Frank Schneider (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)
UEFA Delegate: Adrian Ixari (MDA)
#Post#: 21033--------------------------------------------------
Re: UEFA Champions League 2020/2021 appointments
DIR By: Ref Fan
Date: September 20, 2020, 1:36 pm
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Assuming Michael Oliver carried out his VAR duties today for the
Chelsea - Liverpool game, he doesn't have a lot of time before
his game in Tel Aviv on Tuesday.
It made me wonder about travelling arrangements. I'm not sure
if there are direct scheduled flights between London and Tel
Aviv at present. Are UEFA using private jets when necessary,
especially given the risk of flights being cancelled anyway?
#Post#: 21038--------------------------------------------------
Re: UEFA Champions League 2020/2021 appointments
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: September 20, 2020, 3:35 pm
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--- Quote from: Ref Fan link ---
>
> Assuming Michael Oliver carried out his VAR duties today for
the Chelsea - Liverpool game, he doesn't have a lot of time
before his game in Tel Aviv on Tuesday.
> It made me wonder about travelling arrangements. I'm not sure
if there are direct scheduled flights between London and Tel
Aviv at present. Are UEFA using private jets when necessary,
especially given the risk of flights being cancelled anyway?
>
--- End Quote ---
An interesting question, to which I don't know the answer!
Presumably if they were getting general flights then quarantine
rules would apply (where relevant) so I wouldn't be surprised if
they have specialist provisions.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2020/2021 appointments
DIR By: guest3
Date: September 20, 2020, 3:47 pm
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Maccabi Tel-Aviv today announced 13 cases of Coronavirus on
players and staff. They request from UEFA to postpone the UCL
match with Salzburg.
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