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Re: J MOSS - Aston Villa v Man U
DIR By: bruntyboy
Date: July 10, 2020, 5:24 pm
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--- Quote from: They Are Getting Worse link ---
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> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1606.msg18835#msg18835
date=1594330706]
> [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
link=topic=1606.msg18832#msg18832 date=1594326005]
> [quote author=dtrv2 link=topic=1606.msg18831#msg18831
date=1594325814]
> Can totally understand why Moss gave it at full speed, but
can't understand how anyone can look at those replays and think
that's a penalty.
>
> If anything, it is bordering on SFP by Fernandes for going
studs in on the defender. Completely accidental, but we've
already seen one red this week for a completely accidental SFP
challenge.
>
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A great point, it's an accidental but similar incident to the
Nketiah one on Tuesday. But this is for Manchester United I
guess, that's my only rationale...
[/quote]
How was the nketiah challenge accidental?
[/quote]
Nketiah blatantly didn't mean harm is what I meant, it was a
poor challenge (the wrong way to go in to block a ball) and
endangered the opponent so had to be a red. But he did not
intend to do it, was my meaning.
For me Fernandes therefore comes into that category, and once
more in a United shirt he is very, very, very lucky.
[/quote]
That's rubbish if think Fernandes should have had a red card for
that. When were those other "very, very, very lucky instances"
you have picked up on him?
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Re: J MOSS - Aston Villa v Man U
DIR By: bmb
Date: July 10, 2020, 5:34 pm
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--- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
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> In view of this, when are we going to see the perfect game of
football anywhere in the world with decisions 100% correct?
> I am not interested in the players getting it 100% correct
because that will never happen.
> I am interested so that I can see if I can get a bet on which
may make some money before I cease this mortal coil.
>
--- End Quote ---
My idea of the perfect game is one where the star striker misses
an absolute sitter from 3 feet out, you know the one where he
only has to breath on the ball & it's a goal but he instead
skies it and some poor bloke in row z ends up wearing his cup of
bovril, followed by the goalie watching a ball trickle in from
25 yards out, at a snail's pace that ends up going through his
legs into the goal, or another form of 'my great, great granny
could have saved that' blooper and then that one moment of magic
when someone hits the sweetest ball going and scores a worldy
from the halfway line. Probably explains why I love the NBI!
[emoji23]
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Re: J MOSS - Aston Villa v Man U
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: July 10, 2020, 5:49 pm
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
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> [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=1606.msg18875#msg18875
date=1594393612]
> In view of this, when are we going to see the perfect game of
football anywhere in the world with decisions 100% correct?
> I am not interested in the players getting it 100% correct
because that will never happen.
> I am interested so that I can see if I can get a bet on which
may make some money before I cease this mortal coil.
>
--- End Quote ---
My idea of the perfect game is one where the star striker misses
an absolute sitter from 3 feet out, you know the one where he
only has to breath on the ball & it's a goal but he instead
skies it and some poor bloke in row z ends up wearing his cup of
bovril, followed by the goalie watching a ball trickle in from
25 yards out, at a snail's pace that ends up going through his
legs into the goal, or another form of 'my great, great granny
could have saved that' blooper and then that one moment of magic
when someone hits the sweetest ball going and scores a worldy
from the halfway line. Probably explains why I love the NBI!
[emoji23]
[/quote]
bmb --you have described some of my experiences of watching
Burnley for 68 seasons. You plumb the depths (1987) but you also
can be ecstatic (1959/60). I would not swap my involvement in
football for anything, as a player, coach, manager, official and
administrator, however, I really do wonder just where the modern
game is going.
I think that the major concern is that the powers that be are
trying to change the English game into a game that you regualrly
see on the continent and which I have seen and played in many
years ago.
I shall say no more except that I really hope that they do not
get rid of physical contact altogether because the game will not
be worth watching.
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Re: J MOSS - Aston Villa v Man U
DIR By: bmb
Date: July 10, 2020, 6:05 pm
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--- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
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> [quote author=bmb link=topic=1606.msg18917#msg18917
date=1594420498]
> [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=1606.msg18875#msg18875
date=1594393612]
> In view of this, when are we going to see the perfect game of
football anywhere in the world with decisions 100% correct?
> I am not interested in the players getting it 100% correct
because that will never happen.
> I am interested so that I can see if I can get a bet on which
may make some money before I cease this mortal coil.
>
--- End Quote ---
My idea of the perfect game is one where the star striker misses
an absolute sitter from 3 feet out, you know the one where he
only has to breath on the ball & it's a goal but he instead
skies it and some poor bloke in row z ends up wearing his cup of
bovril, followed by the goalie watching a ball trickle in from
25 yards out, at a snail's pace that ends up going through his
legs into the goal, or another form of 'my great, great granny
could have saved that' blooper and then that one moment of magic
when someone hits the sweetest ball going and scores a worldy
from the halfway line. Probably explains why I love the NBI!
[emoji23]
[/quote]
bmb --you have described some of my experiences of watching
Burnley for 68 seasons. You plumb the depths (1987) but you also
can be ecstatic (1959/60). I would not swap my involvement in
football for anything, as a player, coach, manager, official and
administrator, however, I really do wonder just where the modern
game is going.
I think that the major concern is that the powers that be are
trying to change the English game into a game that you regualrly
see on the continent and which I have seen and played in many
years ago.
I shall say no more except that I really hope that they do not
get rid of physical contact altogether because the game will not
be worth watching.
[/quote]
We've actually become a bit more relaxed in the NBI which has
been good to see. There has been a move towards embracing the
spirit of the game more than the strict hard application we had
before and it's been good to see. I think it has something to do
with our clubs being more successful in Europe (making the group
stages from the qualifying rounds is considered a huge success).
Messrs Ivány & Solymosi in particular produce several
masterclass lessons for younger refs in how and when to play
advantages that 5 years ago would have been fouls every single
time. The downside of the success in Europe has seen an increase
in playacting - the clubs who are regularly in Europe being the
ones guilty of it domestically and an increase in dissent,
although that is still strictly punished thankfully & we do use
the red card frequently for OFFINABUS unlike many leagues.
#Post#: 18924--------------------------------------------------
Re: J MOSS - Aston Villa v Man U
DIR By: Microscopist
Date: July 11, 2020, 3:44 am
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--- Quote ---
> I think that the major concern is that the powers that be are
trying to change the English game into a game that you regualrly
see on the continent and which I have seen and played in many
years ago.
> I shall say no more except that I really hope that they do not
get rid of physical contact altogether because the game will not
be worth watching.
>
--- End Quote ---
I wonder whether we will see two "codes" emerging, a bit like
Rugby League and Rugby Union. The "Traditional" would be the
game you love and the "Modern" would be a minimal contact but
highly strategic version with all the technology add ons.
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