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       #Post#: 18978--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Tierney - Bournemouth vs. Tottenham
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: July 12, 2020, 1:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: They Are Getting Worse link ---
       >
       > This isn't all of them, but here are some of the 18 awarded to
       them this season -
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lXCrKpXG4
       >
       > For me:
       > - Wolves Coady stands his ground and Pogba falls over his leg.
       > - Palace Milovojevic actually makes no contact.
       > - Williams dives over Krul who takes his arms away.
       > - Fernandes actually fouls the Villa defender, not vice versa.
       It's a stamp on the defender's calf but both Moss & VAR decided
       to ignore this.
       > - Moss awarded Fernandes a penalty against Spurs when he flung
       himself into the air, overruled by VAR thankfully.
       >
       > I can't recall the cup ones but recall there being 1 or 2 iffy
       ones.  Can't wait for their next one against Southampton
       tomorrow!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you got a video of Dele Alli throwing himself to the ground
       at Rochdale in the FA Cup two years ago?
       Fancy having to do that against a team bottom of League One.
       #Post#: 18979--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Tierney - Bournemouth vs. Tottenham
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: July 12, 2020, 1:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: They Are Getting Worse link ---
       >
       > This isn't all of them, but here are some of the 18 awarded to
       them this season -
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lXCrKpXG4
       >
       > For me:
       > - Wolves Coady stands his ground and Pogba falls over his leg.
       > - Palace Milovojevic actually makes no contact.
       > - Williams dives over Krul who takes his arms away.
       > - Fernandes actually fouls the Villa defender, not vice versa.
       It's a stamp on the defender's calf but both Moss & VAR decided
       to ignore this.
       > - Moss awarded Fernandes a penalty against Spurs when he flung
       himself into the air, overruled by VAR thankfully.
       >
       > I can't recall the cup ones but recall there being 1 or 2 iffy
       ones.  Can't wait for their next one against Southampton
       tomorrow!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Coady sticks out leg and makes contact with Pogba. Certainly not
       a wrong decision.
       I don’t think the milijovic one needs any comment, how you can’t
       see that as a penalty is beyond me.
       Goalkeeper running out, takes out Williams, no matter what the
       contact is always going to be a penalty in that situation.
       I think everyone on this forum has agreed that the one against
       Villa wasn’t a penalty
       Moss have a second penalty in the spurs match. if you look at
       the replays even Fernandes wasn’t looking for a penalty it was
       just a coming together.
       But I’m sure as a spurs fan you’ll still be wondering why you’re
       down in 8th place. Maybe because you’ve got a defensive manager
       who doesn’t like possession or dominate games. Maybe something
       to look forward to next season??!
       #Post#: 18981--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Tierney - Bournemouth vs. Tottenham
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: July 12, 2020, 2:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1604.msg18971#msg18971 date=1594569055]
       > This isn't all of them, but here are some of the 18 awarded to
       them this season -
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lXCrKpXG4
       >
       > For me:
       > - Wolves Coady stands his ground and Pogba falls over his leg.
       > - Palace Milovojevic actually makes no contact.
       > - Williams dives over Krul who takes his arms away.
       > - Fernandes actually fouls the Villa defender, not vice versa.
       It's a stamp on the defender's calf but both Moss & VAR decided
       to ignore this.
       > - Moss awarded Fernandes a penalty against Spurs when he flung
       himself into the air, overruled by VAR thankfully.
       >
       > I can't recall the cup ones but recall there being 1 or 2 iffy
       ones.  Can't wait for their next one against Southampton
       tomorrow!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Coady sticks out leg and makes contact with Pogba. Certainly not
       a wrong decision.
       I don’t think the milijovic one needs any comment, how you can’t
       see that as a penalty is beyond me.
       Goalkeeper running out, takes out Williams, no matter what the
       contact is always going to be a penalty in that situation.
       I think everyone on this forum has agreed that the one against
       Villa wasn’t a penalty
       Moss have a second penalty in the spurs match. if you look at
       the replays even Fernandes wasn’t looking for a penalty it was
       just a coming together.
       But I’m sure as a spurs fan you’ll still be wondering why you’re
       down in 8th place. Maybe because you’ve got a defensive manager
       who doesn’t like possession or dominate games. Maybe something
       to look forward to next season??!
       [/quote]
       What minute will United get their penalty tomorrow night then?
       Or can you win a game without a ref for a change maybe....
       "Fernandes wasn't looking for a penalty it was just a coming
       together" - haha, oh dear oh dear.  Never played the game, he
       backed into Dier and jumped in the air, but no punishment!
       Last penalty for Spurs against United is not even this century,
       since 2002, United have had 11 in the same fixture in that same
       time, even when Spurs were above United (most of the last 6
       years just in case you forgot).  If you can't accept United get
       the vast majority of big decisions from officials, more than any
       others, you need to look long and hard!  Everyone else neutral
       knows it!  Even VAR which has made it worse, the stats are
       there!
       We've had a poor season and only play good football sporadically
       with this squad and manager, fortunately we're still better than
       Arsenal though...
       #Post#: 18982--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Tierney - Bournemouth vs. Tottenham
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: July 12, 2020, 2:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: TVOS link ---
       >
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1604.msg18971#msg18971 date=1594569055]
       > This isn't all of them, but here are some of the 18 awarded to
       them this season -
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lXCrKpXG4
       >
       > For me:
       > - Wolves Coady stands his ground and Pogba falls over his leg.
       > - Palace Milovojevic actually makes no contact.
       > - Williams dives over Krul who takes his arms away.
       > - Fernandes actually fouls the Villa defender, not vice versa.
       It's a stamp on the defender's calf but both Moss & VAR decided
       to ignore this.
       > - Moss awarded Fernandes a penalty against Spurs when he flung
       himself into the air, overruled by VAR thankfully.
       >
       > I can't recall the cup ones but recall there being 1 or 2 iffy
       ones.  Can't wait for their next one against Southampton
       tomorrow!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you got a video of Dele Alli throwing himself to the ground
       at Rochdale in the FA Cup two years ago?
       Fancy having to do that against a team bottom of League One.
       [/quote]
       He's dived a few times, that wasn't one of them.  Have you got a
       video of Wayne Rooney throwing himself to the ground at Preston
       in the FA Cup a few years ago?  Or how about try something more
       recent - Bruno Fernandes diving twice in the space of 3 weeks
       inside the box!
       #Post#: 18985--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Tierney - Bournemouth vs. Tottenham
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: July 12, 2020, 4:07 pm
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       --- Quote from: They Are Getting Worse link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1604.msg18978#msg18978
       date=1594577615]
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1604.msg18971#msg18971 date=1594569055]
       > This isn't all of them, but here are some of the 18 awarded to
       them this season -
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lXCrKpXG4
       >
       > For me:
       > - Wolves Coady stands his ground and Pogba falls over his leg.
       > - Palace Milovojevic actually makes no contact.
       > - Williams dives over Krul who takes his arms away.
       > - Fernandes actually fouls the Villa defender, not vice versa.
       It's a stamp on the defender's calf but both Moss & VAR decided
       to ignore this.
       > - Moss awarded Fernandes a penalty against Spurs when he flung
       himself into the air, overruled by VAR thankfully.
       >
       > I can't recall the cup ones but recall there being 1 or 2 iffy
       ones.  Can't wait for their next one against Southampton
       tomorrow!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you got a video of Dele Alli throwing himself to the ground
       at Rochdale in the FA Cup two years ago?
       Fancy having to do that against a team bottom of League One.
       [/quote]
       He's dived a few times, that wasn't one of them.  Have you got a
       video of Wayne Rooney throwing himself to the ground at Preston
       in the FA Cup a few years ago?  Or how about try something more
       recent - Bruno Fernandes diving twice in the space of 3 weeks
       inside the box!
       [/quote]
       No, because I'm not a Man United fan, nor can I be bothered
       looking for said incidents.
       #Post#: 18987--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Tierney - Bournemouth vs. Tottenham
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: July 12, 2020, 4:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: TVOS link ---
       >
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1604.msg18982#msg18982 date=1594580654]
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1604.msg18978#msg18978
       date=1594577615]
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1604.msg18971#msg18971 date=1594569055]
       > This isn't all of them, but here are some of the 18 awarded to
       them this season -
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lXCrKpXG4
       >
       > For me:
       > - Wolves Coady stands his ground and Pogba falls over his leg.
       > - Palace Milovojevic actually makes no contact.
       > - Williams dives over Krul who takes his arms away.
       > - Fernandes actually fouls the Villa defender, not vice versa.
       It's a stamp on the defender's calf but both Moss & VAR decided
       to ignore this.
       > - Moss awarded Fernandes a penalty against Spurs when he flung
       himself into the air, overruled by VAR thankfully.
       >
       > I can't recall the cup ones but recall there being 1 or 2 iffy
       ones.  Can't wait for their next one against Southampton
       tomorrow!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you got a video of Dele Alli throwing himself to the ground
       at Rochdale in the FA Cup two years ago?
       Fancy having to do that against a team bottom of League One.
       [/quote]
       He's dived a few times, that wasn't one of them.  Have you got a
       video of Wayne Rooney throwing himself to the ground at Preston
       in the FA Cup a few years ago?  Or how about try something more
       recent - Bruno Fernandes diving twice in the space of 3 weeks
       inside the box!
       [/quote]
       No, because I'm not a Man United fan, nor can I be bothered
       looking for said incidents.
       [/quote]
       Same I’m not a United fan either but when you’re a dominant team
       you’re more likely to get penalties. By the way, that’s pogba in
       the video being fouled not fernandes or can’t you distinguish??
       If you look back over the 28 years of the premier league
       Liverpool has had the most penalties by a considerable distance
       but I suppose that’s ok?
       And if you look at the last decade, Man City have had the most
       penalties since 2011 and United are only 4th but I suppose
       that’s ok too!
       #Post#: 19032--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Tierney - Bournemouth vs. Tottenham
   DIR By: guest379
       Date: July 13, 2020, 2:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1604.msg18985#msg18985
       date=1594588031]
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1604.msg18982#msg18982 date=1594580654]
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1604.msg18978#msg18978
       date=1594577615]
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1604.msg18971#msg18971 date=1594569055]
       > This isn't all of them, but here are some of the 18 awarded to
       them this season -
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lXCrKpXG4
       >
       > For me:
       > - Wolves Coady stands his ground and Pogba falls over his leg.
       > - Palace Milovojevic actually makes no contact.
       > - Williams dives over Krul who takes his arms away.
       > - Fernandes actually fouls the Villa defender, not vice versa.
       It's a stamp on the defender's calf but both Moss & VAR decided
       to ignore this.
       > - Moss awarded Fernandes a penalty against Spurs when he flung
       himself into the air, overruled by VAR thankfully.
       >
       > I can't recall the cup ones but recall there being 1 or 2 iffy
       ones.  Can't wait for their next one against Southampton
       tomorrow!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you got a video of Dele Alli throwing himself to the ground
       at Rochdale in the FA Cup two years ago?
       Fancy having to do that against a team bottom of League One.
       [/quote]
       He's dived a few times, that wasn't one of them.  Have you got a
       video of Wayne Rooney throwing himself to the ground at Preston
       in the FA Cup a few years ago?  Or how about try something more
       recent - Bruno Fernandes diving twice in the space of 3 weeks
       inside the box!
       [/quote]
       No, because I'm not a Man United fan, nor can I be bothered
       looking for said incidents.
       [/quote]
       Same I’m not a United fan either but when you’re a dominant team
       you’re more likely to get penalties. By the way, that’s pogba in
       the video being fouled not fernandes or can’t you distinguish??
       If you look back over the 28 years of the premier league
       Liverpool has had the most penalties by a considerable distance
       but I suppose that’s ok?
       And if you look at the last decade, Man City have had the most
       penalties since 2011 and United are only 4th but I suppose
       that’s ok too!
       [/quote]
       No I was referring to Fernandes falling over in front of Dier in
       the dying moments of the match, overruled by VAR.
       So how come Crystal Palace ended up with the most penalties
       2017-18?  And Bournemouth 2016-17?  All I'm saying is United
       regularly get the rub of the green with big decisions, how many
       times do they go against them exactly?!  I cannot remember more
       than 2 this season...
       #Post#: 19042--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Tierney - Bournemouth vs. Tottenham
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: July 13, 2020, 3:18 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: They Are Getting Worse link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1604.msg18987#msg18987
       date=1594588923]
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1604.msg18985#msg18985
       date=1594588031]
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1604.msg18982#msg18982 date=1594580654]
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1604.msg18978#msg18978
       date=1594577615]
       > [quote author=They Are Getting Worse
       link=topic=1604.msg18971#msg18971 date=1594569055]
       > This isn't all of them, but here are some of the 18 awarded to
       them this season -
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lXCrKpXG4
       >
       > For me:
       > - Wolves Coady stands his ground and Pogba falls over his leg.
       > - Palace Milovojevic actually makes no contact.
       > - Williams dives over Krul who takes his arms away.
       > - Fernandes actually fouls the Villa defender, not vice versa.
       It's a stamp on the defender's calf but both Moss & VAR decided
       to ignore this.
       > - Moss awarded Fernandes a penalty against Spurs when he flung
       himself into the air, overruled by VAR thankfully.
       >
       > I can't recall the cup ones but recall there being 1 or 2 iffy
       ones.  Can't wait for their next one against Southampton
       tomorrow!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have you got a video of Dele Alli throwing himself to the ground
       at Rochdale in the FA Cup two years ago?
       Fancy having to do that against a team bottom of League One.
       [/quote]
       He's dived a few times, that wasn't one of them.  Have you got a
       video of Wayne Rooney throwing himself to the ground at Preston
       in the FA Cup a few years ago?  Or how about try something more
       recent - Bruno Fernandes diving twice in the space of 3 weeks
       inside the box!
       [/quote]
       No, because I'm not a Man United fan, nor can I be bothered
       looking for said incidents.
       [/quote]
       Same I’m not a United fan either but when you’re a dominant team
       you’re more likely to get penalties. By the way, that’s pogba in
       the video being fouled not fernandes or can’t you distinguish??
       If you look back over the 28 years of the premier league
       Liverpool has had the most penalties by a considerable distance
       but I suppose that’s ok?
       And if you look at the last decade, Man City have had the most
       penalties since 2011 and United are only 4th but I suppose
       that’s ok too!
       [/quote]
       No I was referring to Fernandes falling over in front of Dier in
       the dying moments of the match, overruled by VAR.
       So how come Crystal Palace ended up with the most penalties
       2017-18?  And Bournemouth 2016-17?  All I'm saying is United
       regularly get the rub of the green with big decisions, how many
       times do they go against them exactly?!  I cannot remember more
       than 2 this season...
       [/quote]
       You’ve just answered your own question haven’t you. United don’t
       regularly get the rub of the green otherwise they’d be top of
       the penalty stats every year?
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