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NBI Season 2020/21
By: bmb Date: July 8, 2020, 6:50 am
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The new season kicks off on 15th August. The fixtures are not
out yet, probably next week for those to be announced. It was 4
weeks before the season started last season. I thought for this
season I would add in all the info stuff at the start of the
thread so it's easy to find.
There are 12 teams and the season lasts for 33 games. Each team
plays each other 3 times. The normal home and away tie and the
3rd game is determined as being home/away by league position in
the previous year. The higher placed club get the extra home
tie and the lower placed club get an extra away tie.
As an example: Ferencváros who won the league will get an extra
11 home games, Paks who finished 10th will get 9 extra away
games plus 2 extra home games, with those coming against the 2
newly promoted sides. MTK Budapest will have the home advantage
in their 3rd game v Budafok as they were promoted as champions
in the NBII.
The bottom 2 teams will be demoted to the NBII.
If 2 teams end up on the same number of points the position is
decided in this order:
1. number of wins
2. goal difference
3. goals scored
4. points gathered against each other
5. goal difference against each other
6. away goals against each other
7. better fair play position in the league
8. random draw
European places:
The league Champions go into the Champions League qualifying
stage.
2nd place, 3rd place & the winners of the Magyar Kupa go into
the Europa League qualifying stage. If the team who win the
Magyar Kupa also finish in one of the top 3 spots then whoever
finishes 4th will take the final Europa League spot.
In the Magyar Kupa:
In the early rounds of the cup games the lower division team is
always at home. When the draw is made, they don't do it 1st team
out of the hat is at home and 2nd away, instead they get the
pairing of teams and then the lower division team are made the
home team and if the teams are in the same division then the 1st
out of the hat is at home. This is for 2 main reasons, firstly
the home team gets the revenue so it's a way to ensure any
monies made go to the lower division team, who like here, need
it more than the bigger clubs but it's also the Federations way
to encourage supporters to go along to non league and lower
division grounds. Nice way to do it, imo. The latter stages of
the cup are 2 legged (from round 9-11) so each team gets a home
& away tie.
There are 12 rounds in total. The NBI clubs join in from Round
6. The most important rounds are Round 9 - the last 16, Round 10
- quarterfinals and Round 11 - semi finals. The final reverts
back to a single leg and is played at the National Team Stadium.
The away goal rule comes into play during Rounds 9-11. A game
will only go to extra time/penalties if both teams have the same
number of away goals. Throws me every year!!
NBI referees don't typically referee any matches until Round 9,
the earlier rounds are normally handled by the NBII & NBIII
referees. There are no AAR's in the early stages of the cup,
they start from Round 9.
In general
They structure the leagues so that each tier of the game kicks
off on different days/times. You could across a weekend go to a
non-league game, NBI, NBII & NBIII game with no clash of kick
off times etc The lower league teams (NBIII & below) never have
evening games because they don't have floodlights. A lot of the
grounds are literally a field - it's great!
VAR plans have been scrapped for this season so we will continue
with AAR's for season 2010/21. VAR is now planned to be
introduced from season 2021/22. The MLSZ hope that trials of
VAR will start in the Spring season of 2020/21 and used to iron
out any technical issues, whilst simultaneously acting as
training games for the referees and of course our National TV
channel who have to increase the number of cameras at a ground
quite significantly! Currently we have 1/2 cameras on the same
side of the pitch and maybe 1 each end. That will be increased
to a minimum of 12.
The framework of the NBII referees changes this season. There
will be an “A” frame made up of young people who will also
receive a monthly availability fee, they will not be full time
but this is the pool of referees that will be the potential next
generation of NBI referees. Then there will be a “B” frame, i.e.
older referees still good enough for the NBII but who are highly
unlikely to be promoted to the NBI. This is a very positive step
forward and will hopefully work in a similar manner to a talent
group. It means the MLSZ are taking steps to ensure that the
next generation of referees are being trained and gaining the
experience needed ready for the NBI.
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Re: NBI Season 2020/21
By: bmb Date: July 8, 2020, 6:55 am
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Map of Hungary showing where the teams are located. Courtesy of
nemzeti sport online
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1IDn14TyHc3iFUbb8sQUuB4nbm0REkvra&ll=47.17487604972969%2C19.329144050000018&z=8.<br
/>
Map updated
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Re: NBI Season 2020/21
By: bmb Date: July 8, 2020, 7:02 am
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The teams:
Ferencvárosi TC
Ferencvárosi Torna Club, known as Ferencváros were founded in
1899 by Ferenc Springer and a group of local residents of
Budapest’s ninth district, Ferencváros. Ferencváros have played
in the NBI since its inception in 1901, except for three seasons
between 2006 and 2009. Ferencváros is the most successful
Hungarian team both domestically and internationally. They won
the 1964–65 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, after defeating Juventus 1–0
in Turin, and have won the NBI 30 times and the Magyar Kupa 23
times. They lost to Leeds United in the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup
Final in 1968 and to to Dynamo Kiev in the final of the European
Cup Winners’ Cup in the 1974–75 season.
Manager: Sergei Rebrov
Last season: Champions
Stadium: Groupama Aréna, Budapest
Capacity: 22,000
Located: Budapest, District IX
Nickname: Fradi
Mol Fehérvár
Fehérvár was founded in 1941 as Székesfehérvári
Vadásztölténygyár SK. After several name changes, adopting the
term Videoton. On 1 July 2018, the club’s name was changed from
Videoton FC to MOL Vidi FC despite strong disagreement of the
supporters of the club, however since 1 July 2019, the name has
been changed again to Mol Fehérvár FC. At international level,
Fehérvár’s biggest success has been reaching the 1985 UEFA Cup
Final where they lost to Real Madrid.
Manager: [s]Gábor Márton[/s] Szabics Imre - takes over in April
Last season: 2nd
Stadium: MOL Aréna Sósto
Capacity: 14,201
Located: Székesfehérvár, Fejér County (About 65 km SE of
Budapest)
Nickname: Vidi/Videoton
Puskás Akadémia
Puskás Ferenc Labdarugó Akadémia, commonly known as Puskás
Akadémia FC or simply Puskás Akadémia, were founded in 2005 in
Felcsút, Hungary. The aim of the founders was to establish an
academy for Videoton (Now MOL Fehérvár) and to establish a
fitting memorial to former Hungarian national footballer Ferenc
Puskás, despite the team not actually having any academy players
or Ferenc Puskás having any links to either Videoton or Felcsút!
For this reason alone they are hated and mocked in Hungary with
the vast majority of fans refusing to use the made up name and
simply referring to them instead as Felcsút. The Prime Minister
supports Mol Fehérvár/Videoton or whatever they are actually
called this week & is from Felcsút. The football ground is
virtually in his garden.
Manager: Zsolt Hornyak
Last season: 3rd
Stadium: Pancho Aréna, Felcsút
Capacity: 3,816
Location: Felcsút, Fejér County (about 45km W and slightly south
of Budapest)
Nickname: Felcsút
Mezőkövesd Zsóry
Mezőkövesdi Sport Egyesület were founded on 31 January
1975.The team name comes from the Zsóry family who founded the
thermal baths that brought wealth to the town of
Mezőkövesd.
Manager: [s]Attila Kuttor[/s] 11.11.20 - Attila Pintér
Last season: 4th
Stadium: Mezőkövesd Városi Stadion, Mezőkövesd
Capacity: 5,000
Located: Mezőkövesd, Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén County around
130km NE Budapest (more East than North!)
Nickname: Mezo for short
Budapest Honvéd
Originally formed in 1909 as Kispest AC, they became Kispest FC
in 1926 before reverting to their original name in 1944. The
team enjoyed a golden age during the 1950s when it was renamed
Budapesti Honvéd SE and became the Hungarian Army team. The
club’s top players from this era, Ferenc Puskás, Sándor Kocsis,
József Bozsik, Zoltán Czibor, and Gyula Grosics formed the
nucleus of the legendary Hungarian team known as the Mighty
Magyars and helped the club win the Hungarian League four times
during the 1950s. During the 1980s and early 1990s the club
enjoyed another successful period, winning a further eight
Hungarian League titles. They also won league and cup doubles in
1985 and 1989. In 1991 the club was renamed Kispest Honvéd FC
and adopted its current name in 2003. At domestic level they
first entered the NBI in the 1916–17 season. Their first success
came in the 1926 Magyar Kupa season when they beat Budapesti EAC
in the final. In total they have won the NB1 14 times and the
Magyar Kupa 7 times.
Manager: [s]Tamás Bodog[/s] [s]08.12.20 - István Pisont[/s]
17.02.21 - Ferenc Horváth
Last season: 5th
Stadium: Hidegkuti Nándor Stadion (Groundshare)
Capacity: 8,000
Location: Budapest, District XIX
Nickname: Kispest
Újpest
Formed in 1885, Újpest, are the longest running football club in
Hungary. They reached the first division of the Hungarian League
in 1905 and have only been relegated once since then (1910/11).
The club has been a member of the first division for 107
consecutive years. Újpest have been Hungarian champions twenty
times, have won the Magyar Kupa ten times and the Szuperkupa
three times. In international competitions Újpest are two-times
winners of the Mitropa Cup and winners of the 1930 Coupe des
Nations. They also reached the semi-finals of the European Cup
1973–74 and the UEFA Cup Winners’ Cup 1961–62, and were
runners-up in the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1968–69. Since 17
September 1922 their home ground has been the Szusza Ferenc
Stadion in Újpest, previously known as Megyeri úti stadium, it
was named after the club’s legendary player, Ferenc Szusza in
October 2003.
Manager: [s]Predrag Rogan[/s] 23.12.21 Michael Oenning
Last season: 6th
Stadium:Szusza Ferenc Stadion
Capacity: 14,817
Location: Budapest, District IV.
Nickname: Lilák
ZTE
Zalaegerszegi Torna Egylet (ZTE) were formed in 1920 although
can trace their roots back to 1912, during the Austro-Hungarian
Empire. Their progress was halted by the outbreak of World War
I. ZTE’s league history began in 1924, when they joined the
Hungarian second division. The club won the title a decade later
and entered the top flight in 1934. However, the start of World
War II under the regime of Admiral Miklós Horthy saw ZTE’s field
and equipment confiscated. After the war, in 1957, ZTE merged
with two other local teams, signalling the rebirth of the club.
It was 1994 before ZTE were able to get any real stronghold in
the top flight and their only championship win came in season
01/02. In the 2002–03 UEFA Champions League qualifying phase ZTE
defeated Croatian champions NK Zagreb on away goals. In the
third qualifying round ZTE were faced with Manchester United. In
the first leg, ZTE provided a stunning shock by winning 1–0 in
Hungary with a last minute goal from Béla Koplárovics. However,
in the return leg at Old Trafford, Man United were convincing
5–0 winners. In season 2006–07 ZTE finished third securing a
place in the European competitions of the Intertoto Cup 2007.
They were eventually relegated to the NB2 in 2012 and this is
their 2nd season in the NBI.
Manager: [s]Gábor Boér[/s] 15.03.21 - Waltner Róbert
Last season: 7th
Stadium: ZTE Aréna, Zalaegerszeg
Capacity: 8,990
Location: Zalaegerszeg, Zala county, West Hungary. About 230km
South West of Budapest
Kisvárda Master Good
Kisvárda FC, later known as Várda SE, were founded in 1911 as
Kisvárdai Sport Egyesület (KSE). On 1 April 1970 the football
team was merged with other local sports clubs forming the
Kisvárda Sports Association. Despite this KSE were closed in
2001 due to financial problems. A new football club was formed
in 2003 called Várda SE was formed in 2003 only in Kisvárda. In
2013, when the team won promotion to the NB II, the club decided
to re-name Kisvárda on the basis of historical traditions and
replace the former Várda SE coat of arms. Since the 2013–14
season, the official name of the club is Kisvárda Master Good
FC.
Manager: Attila Supka
Last season: 8th
Stadium: Várkert Sportpálya, Kisvárda
Capacity: 2,750
Location: Kisvárda, Szabolcs-Szatmár-Bereg county. NE Hungary
near the border of Slovakia and Ukraine, around 280km from
Budapest.
Nickname: Kisvárda
DVTK
Diósgyőr-Vasgyári Testgyakorlók Köre, more commonly known
as Diósgyőri VTK or simply DVTK were founded 6 February
1910. The football club enjoyed its first golden age in the late
’70s and early ’80s, including a third place in the 1978–79
season of the Hungarian League and two Hungarian Cup triumphs in
1977 and 1980. DVTK have spent most of their history in the top
tier of Hungarian football. They have never won the
championship. Diósgyőr have many passionate fans and are
one of the most supported clubs in Hungary. On 19 July 2014,
UEFA issued sanctions against Diósgyőr, following racist
behaviour by their fans during the 2014–15 UEFA Europa League
qualifying matches against Birkirkara.
Manager: [s]Tamás Feczkó[/s] 08.12.20 - Gergely Geri
Last season: 9th
Stadium: Diósgyőri Stadion, Miskolc
Capacity: 15,325
Location: Diósgyőr, Miskolc. North Hungary near the
Slovakia border. Around 200km NE of Budapest
Paks
In 1952 the Paksi Sportegyesület was formed and began competing
at a county level in Tolna county. They played at either a
county or lower national level until 2006 when they won
promotion to the Borsodi Liga, or NB I, for the first time. In
the 2010–11 Hungarian Division Paksi finished second and
qualified for the Europa League 2011–12 season. They were
knocked out of the competition by Hearts in the 3rd qualifying
round, having beaten UE Santa Coloma from Andorra in the 1st
qualifying round and Tromsř from Norway in the 2nd qualifying
round. This is their biggest success to date.
Manager: Tomislav Sivic
Last season: 10th
Stadium: Fehérvári úti Stadion, Paks
Capacity: 6,150
Location: Paks, Tolna county, 100 km south of Budapest
MTK Budapest
Magyar Testgyakorlók Köre Budapest Futball Club (Hungarian
Practitioners Circle Budapest Football Club) based in
Józsefváros. They are one of the most successful Hungarian
football clubs, MTK has won the Hungarian League 23 times and
the Hungarian Cup 12 times. The club has also won the Hungarian
Super Cup 2 times. In 1955, as Vörös Lobogó SE, they became the
first Hungarian team to play in the European Cup and in 1964
they finished as runners-up in the European Cup Winners' Cup
after losing to Sporting Clube de Portugal in the final. The
club founded the Sándor Károly Football Academy in 2001. The
Academy also has a partnership agreement with English club
Liverpool F.C. MTK Budapest first entered the Nemzeti Bajnokság
in the 1903 season. In the subsequent season, MTK won their
first domestic title. Between 1913 and 1914 and 1924–25 MTK
dominated Hungarian football by winning ten titles in a row.
Fierce hatred with Fradi that stems originally from racism - MTK
are considered a Jewish club & Fradi are associated with Far
Right politics, they are also neighbouring districts within
Budapest. 2nd most prestigious derby to Fradi v Újpest.
Manager: Michael Boris
Last season: Champions NBII
Stadium: Hidegkuti Nándor Stadion
Capacity: 8,000
Location: Budapest, District VIII
Nickname:
Budafoki MTE
Budafoki Munkás Testedző Egyesület (Budafok workers
bodybuilding association) more simply referred to as Budafok.
Budafoki Labdarúgó Club debuted in the 1945–46 season of the
Hungarian League and finished ninth. Like most Hungarian clubs
they have undergone a number of name changes over the years (a
lot were enforced under communist rule). They remained in the
county level leagues until 2016-17 when they had their first
season in the NBIII, they won the league and achieved back to
back promotions, entering the NBII for season 17/18. They
finished 14th and then 16th in season 18/19. When the league was
suspended in May 2020 due to covid-19 they were in 2nd place in
the NBII and have therefore been promoted as runners up. They
play in a field! Not quite sure how their ground has been passed
for the NBI, it is literally a field with an athletics track
around the outside and 1200 seats! Impressive array of solar
panels. It has undergone several upgrades including a roof being
added to the stand over the past 5 years, there are floodlights
but don't think there is undersoil heating, although that could
be being added ahead of the season starting. It looks fantastic
and is on my to visit for a game list for this coming season!
Manager: Csaba Csizmadia
Last season: Runners up NBII
Stadium: Promontor utcai Stadion
Capacity: 4,000
Location: District XXII Budapest
Nickname: Budafok
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Re: NBI Season 2020/21
By: bmb Date: July 8, 2020, 8:31 am
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Team Ref: *This is going on last season's appointments and is
likely to change*
FIFA Referees
Tamás Bognár (1st Group)
István Vad (1st Group)
Ádám Farkas (2nd Group)
Balázs Berke (3rd Group)
Ferenc Karakó (3rd Group)
NBI Referees
Péter Solymosi
Sándor Andó-Szabó
József Erdős
Csaba Pintér
Zoltán Iványi
Gergő Bogár
Bence Csonka
Ádám Pillók
Made debuts in 19/20
Péter Antal
Mihály Káprály
NBII Referees acting as AAR in NBI
Gergely Szőts
Ádám Németh
Ádám Radványi
Péter Zierkelbach
Attila Molnár
Tamás Nazsa *was not used as AAR in the Spring season, just the
Autumn season*
József Ducsai
Szilasi Szabolcs
Katalin Kulcsár
János Takács
László Lovas
J. Zoltán Kovács
Eszter Urbán
Sándor Szilágyi II
Bence Hanyecz
FIFA Assistant Referees
Vencel Tóth II
István Albert
Péter Berettyán
Balázs Buzás
Theodoros Georgiou
Péter Kóbor
Balázs Szert
Balázs Szalai
Gergő Vígh-Tarsonyi
NBI Assistant Referees
Balázs Farkas
Balázs Huszár
Dániel Szalai
Gergely Becséri
István Szécsényi
János Medovarszki
Krisztián Király
Norbert Bornemissza
Oszkár Lémon
Péter Garai
Róbert Horváth
Tamás Márkus
Tibor Csatári
Gábor Varga
József Aradi
Zoltán Horváth (F) *The (F) indicates Mr Horváth is a Futsal
referee
Gyula Punyi
Zsolt Király
Potential retirements:
J. Zoltán Kovács (age 45); János Takács (age 48); Péter Solymosi
(age 48) <----- has been confirmed as continuing for the Autumn
season
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Re: NBI Season 2020/21
By: ajb95 Date: July 8, 2020, 9:28 am
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[quote author=bmb link=topic=1600.msg18753#msg18753
date=1594209045]
The new season kicks off on 15th August. The fixtures are not
out yet, probably next week for those to be announced. It was 4
weeks before the season started last season. I thought for this
season I would add in all the info stuff at the start of the
thread so it's easy to find.
There are 12 teams and the season lasts for 33 games. Each team
plays each other 3 times. The normal home and away tie and the
3rd game is determined as being home/away by league position in
the previous year. The higher placed club get the extra home
tie and the lower placed club get an extra away tie.
As an example: Ferencváros who won the league will get an extra
11 home games, Paks who finished 10th will get 9 extra away
games plus 2 extra home games, with those coming against the 2
newly promoted sides. MTK Budapest will have the home advantage
in their 3rd game v Budafok as they were promoted as champions
in the NBII.
The bottom 2 teams will be demoted to the NBII.
If 2 teams end up on the same number of points the position is
decided in this order:
1. number of wins
2. goal difference
3. goals scored
4. points gathered against each other
5. goal difference against each other
6. away goals against each other
7. better fair play position in the league
8. random draw
European places:
The league Champions go into the Champions League qualifying
stage.
2nd place, 3rd place & the winners of the Magyar Kupa go into
the Europa League qualifying stage. If the team who win the
Magyar Kupa also finish in one of the top 3 spots then whoever
finishes 4th will take the final Europa League spot.
In the Magyar Kupa:
In the early rounds of the cup games the lower division team is
always at home. When the draw is made, they don't do it 1st team
out of the hat is at home and 2nd away, instead they get the
pairing of teams and then the lower division team are made the
home team and if the teams are in the same division then the 1st
out of the hat is at home. This is for 2 main reasons, firstly
the home team gets the revenue so it's a way to ensure any
monies made go to the lower division team, who like here, need
it more than the bigger clubs but it's also the Federations way
to encourage supporters to go along to non league and lower
division grounds. Nice way to do it, imo. The latter stages of
the cup are 2 legged (from round 9-11) so each team gets a home
& away tie.
There are 12 rounds in total. The NBI clubs join in from Round
6. The most important rounds are Round 9 - the last 16, Round 10
- quarterfinals and Round 11 - semi finals. The final reverts
back to a single leg and is played at the National Team Stadium.
The away goal rule comes into play during Rounds 9-11. A game
will only go to extra time/penalties if both teams have the same
number of away goals. Throws me every year!!
NBI referees don't typically referee any matches until Round 9,
the earlier rounds are normally handled by the NBII & NBIII
referees. There are no AAR's in the early stages of the cup,
they start from Round 9.
In general
They structure the leagues so that each tier of the game kicks
off on different days/times. You could across a weekend go to a
non-league game, NBI, NBII & NBIII game with no clash of kick
off times etc The lower league teams (NBIII & below) never have
evening games because they don't have floodlights. A lot of the
grounds are literally a field - it's great!
VAR plans have been scrapped for this season so we will continue
with AAR's for season 2010/21. VAR is now planned to be
introduced from season 2021/22. The MLSZ hope that trials of
VAR will start in the Spring season of 2020/21 and used to iron
out any technical issues, whilst simultaneously acting as
training games for the referees and of course our National TV
channel who have to increase the number of cameras at a ground
quite significantly! Currently we have 1/2 cameras on the same
side of the pitch and maybe 1 each end. That will be increased
to a minimum of 12.
The framework of the NBII referees changes this season. There
will be an “A” frame made up of young people who will also
receive a monthly availability fee, they will not be full time
but this is the pool of referees that will be the potential next
generation of NBI referees. Then there will be a “B” frame, i.e.
older referees still good enough for the NBII but who are highly
unlikely to be promoted to the NBI. This is a very positive step
forward and will hopefully work in a similar manner to a talent
group. It means the MLSZ are taking steps to ensure that the
next generation of referees are being trained and gaining the
experience needed ready for the NBI.
[/quote]
What really good ideas. Would like to see some of these brought
into England. Would revolutionise the game I think!
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Re: NBI Season 2020/21
By: bmb Date: July 8, 2020, 10:47 am
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[quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1600.msg18765#msg18765
date=1594218500]
What really good ideas. Would like to see some of these brought
into England. Would revolutionise the game I think!
[/quote]
I absolutely love how the cup draw works. Great effort from the
Federation to get fans to visit lower league grounds and to try
and help trickle some of the money to the lower league clubs. I
have visited a couple of ace fields in the earlier cup rounds!
One match I went to was in a public park, trees all around the
pitch, random dog walkers passing by, it was beautiful! Our
manager had brought a fold up camping chair with us for me to
sit on!
The staggered kick offs are great as well. NBIII is Saturday
morning, NBI Saturday afternoon and NBII Sunday afternoon.
County games tend to be Sunday morning. Had a few Sundays where
I went to watch one of my 2 non league clubs (BAK & Hunreal) in
the morning and then onto watch MTK or Vasas in the NBII after
lunch. I have never been to a single NBIII game though! Travel
is so easy as well - the metro and tram systems in Budapest are
superb, combined with an excellent bus service if needed & all
on the same travel card. I tend to get a 72 hour travel card,
for 4,150Ft (about Ł10) or the 24 hour one for 1,650Ft (about
Ł4) depending if I'm just going to Saturday NBI games or going
to games on Sunday as well. Valid on all the trams, metro, buses
and some of the over ground trains as well. Such good value. I
have a stack of them, you validate them before the first journey
and that is when the time starts to run on them. The metro runs
with trains every 5 mins maximum on the bigger lines. I have
literally seen a train pull out as I arrive and by the time I
have finally pottered down the stairs (I walk at a snail pace
even with aids!) I have got on the 3rd or 4th train that has
come through! The only downside is disabled facilities are not
always so good so I do sometimes have to use stairs which I
struggle with, in some stations and the escalators tend to be
quite steep and set about 4 times the speed they are here in the
UK so getting off them when able bodied is a dangerous enough
task so for me who is disabled it can be very hazardous! All
part of the fun! [emoji23]
You can still drink (and smoke if so inclined) in all of the
grounds. Lovely in the summer to sprawl out in the sun with a
pint of cider!
Our level of football may well be technically lower, anything
from league 2 to mid championship level in the NBI but it is
such an enjoyable experience overall. Mr Csányi is a very good
Federation president, he loves Hungarian football and whilst we
are becoming far more professional in the top flight and we have
some wonderful stadiums now, thanks to Mr Orbán, it does retain
the core football values. Prices remain low, Ł3-6 for a top
flight match, less than Ł1 for a pint, about 50p for a hot dog.
We get a lot right in those respects.
We also have a lot of issues - racism and homophobia is common
place and not enough being done to combat it. There is still a
hooligan element with the ultras although they do keep it
amongst themselves with organised fights away from the grounds
and never involve non ultras in that side of things. There is
huge retribution within their ranks if they attack non ultras,
the cappos simply do not allow it. I don't agree with the
violence, it's like the bad old days of the 80's here apart from
it being so organised and not widespread but kept amongst
themselves which I can respect. National team games, if I ever
go as an ordinary fan (I do tend to go in the press box or the
posh seats normally) but when I do go simply as a fan, as a
disabled, foreign female I get looked after and protected by the
ultras, normally 4 of them. 1 either side of me, 1 in front and
1 behind walking to and from the stadium. They do however always
get me very drunk!! Never refuse pálinka, it's an insult & can
get you in more trouble than accepting it!!! But the 2l plastic
bottles they hand you with clear liquid while shouting pálinka
at you is inevitably home brew apple pálinka, about 95% proof,
tastes like rocket fuel & is lethal!!!! Thankfully they have
always escorted me back to my hotel & put me to bed fully
dressed! [emoji23]
We also have a lot of suspicion of corruption at a high level.
The very incestuous club ownership, ground ownership, all NBI
clubs owned now by someone sympathetic to the government/Fidez,
(apart from Lilák who are in talks to sell currently) loosely
connected via a sporting company whose records are well hidden
but seem to have a few subsidiary companies, tax schemes that
look a bit iffy, shared sponsors and various government grants.
Money seems to constantly change hands within a very small
circle and certainly doesn't look good which is why the
suspicions of corruption often surface. Whether there is
actually corruption I have no idea but I can understand why
there are the suspicions. When Balmaz went bust last season that
open a whole can of worms about where the money had gone. I
don't believe Mr Csányi to be corrupt,I think he is a good man
and I certainly don't think it extends as low down as
managers/players or our referees, if it does exist then it's at
the ownership levels and not below them.
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Re: NBI Season 2020/21
By: ajb95 Date: July 8, 2020, 11:36 am
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Would love to see that with the cup draws. I think our KO's are
about right although more needs to be done in terms of travel
for away team fans particularly when kick offs are late or
Sunday/midweek.
Hopefully, we will see teams start to make football more
affordable again. Some of the prices to watch the professional
game is ridiculous particularly the Championship/Premier League,
especially in London!! Some good initiatives have come out in
the past few years. Hopefully with safe standing that should
bring back the atmosphere. That's why I love non league games as
you can drink on the terraces too!!
I love Budapest! Went for the first time last OCtober - it was
amazing. Everything, the scenery, the architecture, the history,
it was clean and the people were so friendly. We went first week
of October, and it was sunny 20+ the week before we left and the
week after but the 5 days we were there we had wind and rain and
the top temperature of 12C. How unlucky!!
We were going to go to the Ferencvaros v Ludogorets game in the
Europa LEague on the Thursday but we were on a Danube river
cruise for 2 hours from 5pm (seeing the lovely sunset). Glad we
didn't go as they got hammered 3-0 and the locals weren't happy
afterwards when we went out for food!
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Re: NBI Season 2020/21
By: bmb Date: July 8, 2020, 2:07 pm
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The downside to the cup games is you can get games at midday in
the middle of the week because of when the park is available for
use and the fact no-one has floodlights so games can only be in
the day time. That can take away fan availability to attend but
the domestic game has only a small number of core fans anyway.
Mr Csányi when he made the announcement that football was
returning after the covid break made a joke about it being
behind closed doors, saying that league attendances over the
years had fully prepared Hungarian clubs for this moment & there
were several who wouldn't notice the difference! It's a shame
really because it's great fun attending matches there but
youngsters want PL, Bundesliga quality football as they can
widely watch on the National sports TV channel. Sadly they don't
realise that by attending and supporting the domestic league
they will actually help it to keep growing. It has grown so much
in the 10 years or so that I have been watching it.
We do have a bit of a non league vibe going on even at our top
flight if you compare our league with the UK ones. It's one of
the things I love so much about it. It is football and social
any tainting by money is way above the actual football's level
in the scheme of it all. It doesn't impact the fans anyway! I
think it was AFCB's 2nd season in the PL that the cost really
hit home to me, it was about Ł30 cheaper for me and my son to
fly to Budapest on a Saturday morning, watch Lilák that
afternoon, Hunreal on the Sunday morning and Vasas on the Sunday
afternoon before flying back on the last flight on the Sunday
and I mean including flights, travel to and from the airports,
hotel, food, travel to the games and ticket cost than it was to
take a train to Manchester and get tickets for the Man Utd away
game. The hotel I use is a 2 star place, they virtually pay you
to stay there but it's a great location for travel, the staff
are ace and it's always clean, tidy & comfy and I do get a
discount there. Free travel to and from there for the airport as
well. Lilák I never paid for a ticket & they would also feed us
a big lunch and the chef would send me away with food for that
evening and sometimes the next day! If I had to pay for those on
top it would have probably been the same price but even so, what
I got for my money was way better value!
Budapest is beautiful, it is my favourite city anywhere in the
world. Debrecen and Esztergom are pretty high on the list as
well and Pécs which is where my Hungarian family are based.The
best time to go in October is so that you are there for the
23rd. It is the biggest national holiday, so many festivals and
things going on. It's the anniversary of the 1956 revolution and
our Independence day. My son loves being there that week as he
feels the whole country is celebrating his birthday! Oh my the
food is amazing! This year travel restrictions permitting we
will go that week (it's normally half term week) and then on the
24th go to Debrecen ready for Szent Dömötör Day on the
Hortobágy, which is on the 25th. Never been there for that one
although I always watch the videos afterwards - I am beyond
excited for that!! I absolutely love the csikös.
If you go again and plan to take in a game, let me know when you
will be there & I'll tell you what the game of the weekend is.
Fradi are our top team by far and in terms of footballing
ability yes they are the team to watch but it's not necessarily
the best atmosphere and all round experience. Their far right
ultras have also returned to games recently with the aryan
greens flag being back on prominent display, not a good thing to
see and it makes for a hostile, intimidating atmosphere,
completely the opposite to the normal welcoming Budapest you'd
expect. Plus Fradi v Kisvárda for example would be a complete
bore in comparison with MTK v Honvéd, the latter being one of
the lesser Budapest derbies. There are 5 Budapest clubs in the
NBI this year - that's a lot of derby matches! The best derby
will always be Fradi v Lilák but only if both sets of ultras
attend, they make it what it is, looking forward to experiencing
the MTK v Fradi derby live as well this year!
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Re: NBI Season 2020/21
By: bmb Date: July 9, 2020, 2:38 pm
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Lovely to see Kassai Viktor and Fabián Mihály briefly teaming up
together again. Wish it was at home though :'(
HTML https://www.footballvictoria.com.au/news/viktor-kassai-joins-nplnplw-referee-workshop
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Re: NBI Season 2020/21
By: bmb Date: July 10, 2020, 8:42 am
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Licences approved for 12 NBI teams, 18 NBII teams and 59 NBIII
teams (1 still to be granted). The NBIII is 3 x 20 teams
regional based leagues.
We are ready to go!
HTML https://szovetseg.mlsz.hu/hir/12-nbi-es-es-18-nbii-es-csapat-nevezeset-fogadta-el-a-versenybizottsag
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