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       #Post#: 17609--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: May 20, 2020, 2:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: flipmode link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=1491.msg17581#msg17581
       date=1589886875]
       > [quote author=flipmode link=topic=1491.msg17576#msg17576
       date=1589862541]
       > What is football without the fans?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Just a thought, there are probably more people in  the world who
       don't give a damn about football than there are fanatics like us
       lot on here.
       [/quote]
       Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not aching for the 2am alarm calls to
       watch City in countless empty stadiums devoid of any emotion.
       With the numbers of people still dying from this in the 500s, to
       resume the PL season just so Liverpool can win it properly is
       just morally reprehensible.
       I do wonder if the same luxury would be afforded if it were say
       Chelsea, or Manchester City, sitting pretty at the top of the
       league.
       [/quote]
       Probably.
       #Post#: 17610--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: May 20, 2020, 2:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1491.msg17588#msg17588
       date=1589961223]
       > [quote author=flipmode link=topic=1491.msg17587#msg17587
       date=1589935430]
       > [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=1491.msg17581#msg17581
       date=1589886875]
       > [quote author=flipmode link=topic=1491.msg17576#msg17576
       date=1589862541]
       > What is football without the fans?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Just a thought, there are probably more people in  the world who
       don't give a damn about football than there are fanatics like us
       lot on here.
       [/quote]
       Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not aching for the 2am alarm calls to
       watch City in countless empty stadiums devoid of any emotion.
       With the numbers of people still dying from this in the 500s, to
       resume the PL season just so Liverpool can win it properly is
       just morally reprehensible.
       I do wonder if the same luxury would be afforded if it were say
       Chelsea, or Manchester City, sitting pretty at the top of the
       league.
       [/quote]
       I think Liverpool are the easiest part to solve of all this
       because it's clear they'll win the title either way.
       It's what you do about relegation and promotion and the European
       places that is more complex and why the season should be
       completed if it can be.
       [/quote]
       Scrap relegation. The current placings determine European spots,
       subject to Man City's appeal hearing. Simple
       [/quote]
       I'm fed up with reading all this "scrap relegation" nonsense.
       Why?
       #Post#: 17619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: May 21, 2020, 6:26 am
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       Graphic showing which leagues are back and which aren't. These
       are only leagues that are members of the European League
       Association, which Hungary isn't a member of seemingly!
  HTML https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1263396697297870848
       #Post#: 17620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: May 21, 2020, 9:11 am
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       EFL have said their recommendations are that if the season can't
       be completed in any division, the league standings should be
       decided on unweighted average points per game, promotion and
       relegation should still happen, and the play-offs should still
       be played (if possible) with the usual 4 teams.
       #Post#: 17623--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: May 21, 2020, 4:31 pm
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > EFL have said their recommendations are that if the season
       can't be completed in any division, the league standings should
       be decided on unweighted average points per game, promotion and
       relegation should still happen, and the play-offs should still
       be played (if possible) with the usual 4 teams.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Here's a novel idea. Why not just promote the top three in the
       Championship and League 1 and the top four in League 2?
       I'm surprised it's never been done before!
       #Post#: 17624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: May 21, 2020, 5:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: TVOS link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1491.msg17620#msg17620
       date=1590070315]
       > EFL have said their recommendations are that if the season
       can't be completed in any division, the league standings should
       be decided on unweighted average points per game, promotion and
       relegation should still happen, and the play-offs should still
       be played (if possible) with the usual 4 teams.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Here's a novel idea. Why not just promote the top three in the
       Championship and League 1 and the top four in League 2?
       I'm surprised it's never been done before!
       [/quote]
       They would have to pay back more TV money.
       #Post#: 17625--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: May 22, 2020, 1:20 am
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1491.msg17623#msg17623
       date=1590096690]
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1491.msg17620#msg17620
       date=1590070315]
       > EFL have said their recommendations are that if the season
       can't be completed in any division, the league standings should
       be decided on unweighted average points per game, promotion and
       relegation should still happen, and the play-offs should still
       be played (if possible) with the usual 4 teams.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Here's a novel idea. Why not just promote the top three in the
       Championship and League 1 and the top four in League 2?
       I'm surprised it's never been done before!
       [/quote]
       They would have to pay back more TV money.
       [/quote]
       There’s something wrong when it comes down to that as a reason.
       #Post#: 17627--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: May 22, 2020, 5:08 am
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       --- Quote from: TVOS link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1491.msg17624#msg17624
       date=1590099897]
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1491.msg17623#msg17623
       date=1590096690]
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1491.msg17620#msg17620
       date=1590070315]
       > EFL have said their recommendations are that if the season
       can't be completed in any division, the league standings should
       be decided on unweighted average points per game, promotion and
       relegation should still happen, and the play-offs should still
       be played (if possible) with the usual 4 teams.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Here's a novel idea. Why not just promote the top three in the
       Championship and League 1 and the top four in League 2?
       I'm surprised it's never been done before!
       [/quote]
       They would have to pay back more TV money.
       [/quote]
       There’s something wrong when it comes down to that as a reason.
       [/quote]
       Well perhaps, but many EFL clubs seem to have significant
       financial problems as it is so having to repay money they've
       received from the TV contract by not fulfilling the play-offs
       isn't going to help them. After all, money has been a big factor
       in the decision making process as to which leagues continue and
       which don't.
       #Post#: 17628--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: May 22, 2020, 7:11 am
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1491.msg17625#msg17625
       date=1590128446]
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1491.msg17624#msg17624
       date=1590099897]
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1491.msg17623#msg17623
       date=1590096690]
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1491.msg17620#msg17620
       date=1590070315]
       > EFL have said their recommendations are that if the season
       can't be completed in any division, the league standings should
       be decided on unweighted average points per game, promotion and
       relegation should still happen, and the play-offs should still
       be played (if possible) with the usual 4 teams.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Here's a novel idea. Why not just promote the top three in the
       Championship and League 1 and the top four in League 2?
       I'm surprised it's never been done before!
       [/quote]
       They would have to pay back more TV money.
       [/quote]
       There’s something wrong when it comes down to that as a reason.
       [/quote]
       Well perhaps, but many EFL clubs seem to have significant
       financial problems as it is so having to repay money they've
       received from the TV contract by not fulfilling the play-offs
       isn't going to help them. After all, money has been a big factor
       in the decision making process as to which leagues continue and
       which don't.
       [/quote]
       Yes, I'd agree with that, but if the Championship continued, for
       example, Sky could choose to broadcast more games - perhaps
       offering deals to fans as they can't attend - which might
       somehow compensate for the terms of the TV contract not being
       fulfilled.
       The play-offs would only feature four teams; would ending the
       play-offs mean other clubs having to pay money back?
       In fact, has it been said anywhere that money would have to be
       refunded?
       It might turn out to be a more exciting title race if promotion
       was extended to third place as a one-off for this season.
       #Post#: 17708--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: May 28, 2020, 9:29 am
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       According to breaking news on BBC Football, the Premier League
       season is set to restart on 17 June with Aston Villa v Sheffield
       United and Manchester City v Arsenal. The matches are the two
       games in hand. A full fixture list would then be played on the
       weekend of 19-21 June. Clubs are still discussing the idea at a
       meeting on Thursday, but it is understood all have agreed in
       principle at this stage.
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