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#Post#: 16249--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Fifth Round Proper (Mon 2nd – Thu 5th
MAR 2020)
DIR By: JohnCoyle
Date: February 28, 2020, 9:23 am
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--- Quote from: redman2014 link ---
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> Pawson,
> Tierney,
> Kavanagh
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> All contenders for the final?
>
> Personally, think Pawson will get it.
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Pawson is the most senior of the referees who haven't had the FA
Cup Final. However, he's from Sheffield I believe and both
Sheffield clubs are still in the Cup. If neither the Owls or
Blades reach the Final, then I would expect Pawson to get it.
#Post#: 16260--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Fifth Round Proper (Mon 2nd – Thu 5th
MAR 2020)
DIR By: referee12
Date: February 28, 2020, 3:12 pm
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I agree rob jones and Darren England for promotion and var
should be available at all grounds from the 3rd rd onwards and
not in places where it isn’t
#Post#: 16273--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Fifth Round Proper (Mon 2nd – Thu 5th
MAR 2020)
DIR By: JohnCoyle
Date: February 29, 2020, 4:53 am
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> Great appointment for Kavanagh- but this is the round it gets
silly on the VAR front only being used in selective games- and
Arsenal and both Manchester clubs on their travels without it.
Surely it has to be either IN or OUT
>
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Makes more sense not to use it until the semis IMO.
#Post#: 16275--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Fifth Round Proper (Mon 2nd – Thu 5th
MAR 2020)
DIR By: rustyref
Date: February 29, 2020, 6:49 am
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--- Quote from: referee12 link ---
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> I agree rob jones and Darren England for promotion and var
should be available at all grounds from the 3rd rd onwards and
not in places where it isn’t
>
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There are 32 games in the 3rd round proper, even with games
staggered over three days they couldn't possibly use VAR on that
number of games. The VAR room isn't big enough, wouldn't have
enough monitors, and they wouldn't have enough officials either.
#Post#: 16276--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Fifth Round Proper (Mon 2nd – Thu 5th
MAR 2020)
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: February 29, 2020, 7:54 am
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--- Quote from: redman2014 link ---
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> Pawson,
> Tierney,
> Kavanagh
>
> All contenders for the final?
>
> Personally, think Pawson will get it.
>
--- End Quote ---
I would agree that these are the likely contenders ( barring
accidents ) for the next three FA cup Finals with Pawson (
geography permitting ) getting it this year. It is perhaps
possible that Attwell might get the Final before Kavanagh and
Tierney, a moot point that I think.
#Post#: 16281--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Fifth Round Proper (Mon 2nd – Thu 5th
MAR 2020)
DIR By: Hendo
Date: February 29, 2020, 10:39 am
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--- Quote from: referee12 link ---
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> I agree rob jones and Darren England for promotion and var
should be available at all grounds from the 3rd rd onwards and
not in places where it isn’t
>
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Really pleased to see Darren England “rewarded” for the most
shocking decision of the season in the 3rd round game involving
Derby County by being appointed to this round. Clearly forgiven
and cock ups count for very little if your face fits
#Post#: 16305--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Fifth Round Proper (Mon 2nd – Thu 5th
MAR 2020)
DIR By: Fengunner
Date: March 1, 2020, 11:26 am
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I see Arsenal have Mike Dean - AGAIN? Isn't this all getting a
bit irregular?
If there are only 6 referees that one club can have then the
answer is more refs, not imposing/granting the few onto one club
over and over.
It really makes me wonder if sometimes, the officials who get
the same teams regularly, become just a bit biased against them
to avoid any sense of favouritism the other way?
#Post#: 16309--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Fifth Round Proper (Mon 2nd – Thu 5th
MAR 2020)
DIR By: referee12
Date: March 1, 2020, 12:54 pm
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my apologies rusty ref for getting it wrong again i just think
it would be better if var was available and you can have joint
decisions and not just 1
#Post#: 16313--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Fifth Round Proper (Mon 2nd – Thu 5th
MAR 2020)
DIR By: rustyref
Date: March 1, 2020, 1:20 pm
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It would of course be ideal, but there are practicalities.
Having VAR at a ground isn't just a case of a truck turning up,
there will be leased network lines needed back to Stockley Park
and these typically have lead times of months rather than weeks.
There just wouldn't be time needed between the rounds to get it
installed.
Also look at referee numbers. Let's assume that 10 of the 32
ties are at PL grounds, with the current system you would need
148 officials, with VAR at all the ties you would need 192
officials, where are those extra 44 coming from? There's also
the cost angle, the clubs are charged a significant amount of
money per game where VAR is in use. That's fine if someone like
Hartlepool are away at Man Utd as they will get it back through
their share of the gate receipts, but if they are home to Exeter
they would actually lose money.
#Post#: 16315--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Fifth Round Proper (Mon 2nd – Thu 5th
MAR 2020)
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: March 1, 2020, 1:30 pm
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--- Quote from: Hendo link ---
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> [quote author=referee12 link=topic=1405.msg16260#msg16260
date=1582924340]
> I agree rob jones and Darren England for promotion and var
should be available at all grounds from the 3rd rd onwards and
not in places where it isn’t
>
--- End Quote ---
Really pleased to see Darren England “rewarded” for the most
shocking decision of the season in the 3rd round game involving
Derby County by being appointed to this round. Clearly forgiven
and **** ups count for very little if your face fits
[/quote]
While not wishing to comment on the alleged *** ups because I
haven't seen the footage, I can certainly assent to the
proposition that Darren England's face "fits".
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