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       #Post#: 16037--------------------------------------------------
       Re: M OLIVER - Chelsea v Tottenham 
   DIR By: Ref Fan
       Date: February 22, 2020, 11:24 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > No retrospective punishment will be issued by the FA as
       apparently the match referee AND VAR have seen the incident and
       felt it wasn’t a red card.
       >
       > Words fail me.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure I understand this.  When was Oliver supposed to have
       seen the incident?  I'm very surprised if with his angle and
       distance, and the position of the players, he claims he saw it
       clearly at the time.  I thought no retrospective punishment
       applied if any of the officials saw it.  To my mind, the AR on
       that side had a much better chance of seeing the incident
       clearly than Oliver.  I take it from this that it wasn't VAR who
       changed their mind about no RC and it was the PGMOL who stepped
       in to state they had got it wrong.
       What a mess, and apparently there was more controversy in the
       3pm games.
       #Post#: 16043--------------------------------------------------
       Re: M OLIVER - Chelsea v Tottenham 
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: February 22, 2020, 12:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ref Fan link ---
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       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
       link=topic=1393.msg16030#msg16030 date=1582388043]
       > No retrospective punishment will be issued by the FA as
       apparently the match referee AND VAR have seen the incident and
       felt it wasn’t a red card.
       >
       > Words fail me.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure I understand this.  When was Oliver supposed to have
       seen the incident?  I'm very surprised if with his angle and
       distance, and the position of the players, he claims he saw it
       clearly at the time.  I thought no retrospective punishment
       applied if any of the officials saw it.  To my mind, the AR on
       that side had a much better chance of seeing the incident
       clearly than Oliver.  I take it from this that it wasn't VAR who
       changed their mind about no RC and it was the PGMOL who stepped
       in to state they had got it wrong.
       What a mess, and apparently there was more controversy in the
       3pm games.
       [/quote]
       Surely friend was closer as 4th?
       #Post#: 16050--------------------------------------------------
       Re: M OLIVER - Chelsea v Tottenham 
   DIR By: Proudgayref
       Date: February 22, 2020, 3:36 pm
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       David Coote needs to open up more and make brave decisions but
       he always looks weak whenever he referees.
       #Post#: 16053--------------------------------------------------
       Re: M OLIVER - Chelsea v Tottenham 
   DIR By: magpie1892
       Date: February 22, 2020, 4:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: Irishref1985 link ---
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       > [quote author=Matt link=topic=1393.msg16028#msg16028
       date=1582386747]
       > [quote author=Irishref1985 link=topic=1393.msg16021#msg16021
       date=1582383272]
       > Two of them should be sacked simple as
       >
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       ABSOLUTE RUBBISH.
       Nonsical rubbish.
       [/quote]
       The real rubbish is the amount of rubbish people speak about on
       here. These officials are fully paid professionals who aren't
       good enough or fit for purpose. Coote is a disaster of an
       official.. And once again I question what is Adam Nunn's role in
       all this? Surely he is there to support the officials not make
       them look like idiots. If you weren't doing you job properly in
       life you would be sacked. I don't see why the same shouldn't be
       the case for this untouchables. But how dare I have an opinion.
       Absolute tripe with the video technology that people can stand
       over these type of decisions.. As the fella said Steve Wonder
       would have seen that.
       [/quote]
       AVAR (Adam Nunn) takes over watching the live game whilst the
       VAR (David Coote) reviews incidents is how I was told it works
       #Post#: 16054--------------------------------------------------
       Re: M OLIVER - Chelsea v Tottenham 
   DIR By: guest42
       Date: February 22, 2020, 4:40 pm
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       Just.
       Get.
       Rid.
       I’m talking about VAR, its incompetent operators in tracksuits
       in a room miles away from the stadia and Riley himself.
       The integrity of the beautiful game is rapidly going to the
       dogs...
       To quote Paddy Donegan in 1976 - “It’s a Thundering Disgrace...”
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