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       #Post#: 15516--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 7th - Tue 11th FEB 2020
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: February 9, 2020, 5:59 am
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       --- Quote from: PDMat Shav link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=1357.msg15350#msg15350
       date=1580752358]
       > Thomas Bramall back in action, I wish him well. I hope to run
       my eye over Sam Purkiss for the first time at Crewe on Saturday.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Was not over impressed with Sam Purkiss at Crewe yesterday,
       never really showed any real authority, with the Oldham players
       when they questioned his decisions, throughout the game, and
       gave some strange decisions against both teams. He did allow 7
       added minutes for all the time wasting Oldham did and it cost
       them in the end.
       [/quote]
       Thanks, I've reported separately on Sam under General Discussion
       and on the 7 minutes which he added at the end of the game.
       #Post#: 15524--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 7th - Tue 11th FEB 2020
   DIR By: Skydank
       Date: February 9, 2020, 8:50 am
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       A very very inconsistent display from Mr Haines at Peterborough
       yesterday...if after a 4:0 home win the crowd still boo you off
       it is not a good sign...actually the two yellow cards for a Posh
       player was a good decision in my eyes, but it did seem he had to
       be reminded that the player had already been booked, as long
       wait between yellow and red.
       However, my biggest concern was his inconsistency in foul
       detection especially with 9\5 challenges..some forearm smashes
       were let go, whilst sometimes could were given for no reason at
       all.
       His whole approach meant that players and fans were frustrated
       leading to further cautions.
       For an experienced official he really did seem to lose control
       at times
       #Post#: 15530--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 7th - Tue 11th FEB 2020
   DIR By: JohnCoyle
       Date: February 10, 2020, 2:43 am
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       --- Quote from: Skydank link ---
       >
       > A very very inconsistent display from Mr Haines at
       Peterborough yesterday...if after a 4:0 home win the crowd still
       boo you off it is not a good sign...actually the two yellow
       cards for a Posh player was a good decision in my eyes, but it
       did seem he had to be reminded that the player had already been
       booked, as long wait between yellow and red.
       >
       > However, my biggest concern was his inconsistency in foul
       detection especially with 9\5 challenges..some forearm smashes
       were let go, whilst sometimes could were given for no reason at
       all.
       >
       > His whole approach meant that players and fans were frustrated
       leading to further cautions.
       >
       > For an experienced official he really did seem to lose control
       at times
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       My views on Mr Haines are well known and I think m'learned
       friend TVOS now concurs with me.
       Someone in authority should be quietly suggesting to him that
       it's time he hung up his whistle, at least as far as the NL is
       concerned.
       #Post#: 15532--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 7th - Tue 11th FEB 2020
   DIR By: QuoCob
       Date: February 10, 2020, 3:34 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1357.msg15371#msg15371
       date=1580766890]
       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
       link=topic=1357.msg15367#msg15367 date=1580764523]
       > [quote author=QuoCob link=topic=1357.msg15366#msg15366
       date=1580764134]
       > Charles Breakspear for our second time of the season...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He's been quiet on the red card front recently...  managed to
       get through one game without flashing his worn out card. He has
       already hit the dizzy heights of 12 reds thus far..
       Looking forward to another report on our newest card shark.
       [/quote]
       He was excellent at MK Dons last Tuesday.
       [/quote]
       I've seen Charles Breakspear a few times. He is rather like the
       little girl in the nursery rhyme; when he is good he is very,
       very good but when he is bad.....!
       If only his very good were more consistent then he would be in
       SG2 without a doubt. Actually, I think is at least as good if
       not better than some in SG2, though as m'learned friend nemesis
       would surely point out, that really is damning with praise which
       is almost see-through !
       [/quote]
       Six cautions on Saturday, I wasn't there but the reports do not
       contain the usual complaints of over zealous officiating and one
       even said he had a decent game.  He wasn't responsible for our
       defeat...
       #Post#: 15533--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 7th - Tue 11th FEB 2020
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: February 10, 2020, 6:51 am
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       --- Quote from: JohnCoyle link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Skydank link=topic=1357.msg15524#msg15524
       date=1581259827]
       > A very very inconsistent display from Mr Haines at
       Peterborough yesterday...if after a 4:0 home win the crowd still
       boo you off it is not a good sign...actually the two yellow
       cards for a Posh player was a good decision in my eyes, but it
       did seem he had to be reminded that the player had already been
       booked, as long wait between yellow and red.
       >
       > However, my biggest concern was his inconsistency in foul
       detection especially with 9\5 challenges..some forearm smashes
       were let go, whilst sometimes could were given for no reason at
       all.
       >
       > His whole approach meant that players and fans were frustrated
       leading to further cautions.
       >
       > For an experienced official he really did seem to lose control
       at times
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       My views on Mr Haines are well known and I think m'learned
       friend TVOS now concurs with me.
       Someone in authority should be quietly suggesting to him that
       it's time he hung up his whistle, at least as far as the NL is
       concerned.
       [/quote]
       He was rubbish on Boxing Day, but he’s normally just below
       average.
       #Post#: 15581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 7th - Tue 11th FEB 2020
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: February 11, 2020, 4:17 am
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       --- Quote from: Skydank link ---
       >
       > A very very inconsistent display from Mr Haines at
       Peterborough yesterday...if after a 4:0 home win the crowd still
       boo you off it is not a good sign...actually the two yellow
       cards for a Posh player was a good decision in my eyes, but it
       did seem he had to be reminded that the player had already been
       booked, as long wait between yellow and red.
       >
       > However, my biggest concern was his inconsistency in foul
       detection especially with 9\5 challenges..some forearm smashes
       were let go, whilst sometimes could were given for no reason at
       all.
       >
       > His whole approach meant that players and fans were frustrated
       leading to further cautions.
       >
       > For an experienced official he really did seem to lose control
       at times
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree; A very inconsistent display.  I didn't feel that the
       second yellow card for Nathan Thompson was warranted.  It was
       just a careless tap on a player who was going nowhere.  When the
       yellow appeared I initially assumed it was for someone else for
       dissent.  No quibbles with the other cards.  Ivan Toney may feel
       hard done by with his in stoppage time given some of the
       treatment he received but he gives as much as he gets and he had
       been given a clear 'no more' warning previously.
       The best that can be said of Mr Haines was that he didn't affect
       the result.  Even the red card didn't reduce the home dominance.
       #Post#: 15596--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 7th - Tue 11th FEB 2020
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: February 11, 2020, 3:45 pm
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       Kettle has been a busy man tonight at FGR....here are a
       selection of his stats.
       6 yellows, 2 reds, 2 penalties, 35 fouls, and 8 minutes injury
       time.
       #Post#: 15601--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 7th - Tue 11th FEB 2020
   DIR By: QuoCob
       Date: February 12, 2020, 3:30 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > Kettle has been a busy man tonight at FGR....here are a
       selection of his stats.
       >
       > 6 yellows, 2 reds, 2 penalties, 35 fouls, and 8 minutes injury
       time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       From the highlights, it looked like the pens and red cards were
       justified...
       #Post#: 15608--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 7th - Tue 11th FEB 2020
   DIR By: JohnCoyle
       Date: February 12, 2020, 8:12 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > Kettle has been a busy man tonight at FGR....here are a
       selection of his stats.
       >
       > 6 yellows, 2 reds, 2 penalties, 35 fouls, and 8 minutes injury
       time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He can now say that he's sent off a Pope as well.
       #Post#: 15618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 7th - Tue 11th FEB 2020
   DIR By: ECity77
       Date: February 12, 2020, 10:42 am
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       I was at Forest Green last night to watch them play Port Vale.
       As a neutral it was a very exciting game!
       I agree with both red cards and both penalties.
       However, I thought Mr Kettle is probably the most inconsistent
       referee I have ever seen. There were a lot of fouls that went
       against Port Vale but FGR made the same fouls but he did not
       give them.
       I would think from last night this could be his last season as
       he looked out of position on so many occasions and missed so
       many fouls because of this.
       What I did find very interesting, was at half time and full time
       Mr Kettle was off the pitch with the ball under his arm he did
       not want to wait around to shake hands. To me that suggests even
       he must be thinking his general performance was not the
       greatest.
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