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       Re: Decisions - weekend 1/2 February
   DIR By: robbie_scouse
       Date: February 2, 2020, 3:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=robbie_scouse link=topic=1352.msg15297#msg15297
       date=1580669273]
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1352.msg15293#msg15293
       date=1580664674]
       > Liverpool v Southampton.: K Friend
       > Possible pen for Southampton on ings in the second half.
       Certainly seen them given
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed. But surprised you didn’t add the foul on Firmino in the
       first half that was a clear penalty and possible red card.
       Equally, a good argument for a back pass in the first half, when
       Robertson passed back to Allison.
       [/quote]
       I haven’t seen that mate - was it shown on match of the day?
       [/quote]
       Yes, all three - the two I mention and the only one you referred
       to - were shown on MOTD.
       #Post#: 15306--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Decisions - weekend 1/2 February
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: February 2, 2020, 5:14 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ref Fan link ---
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       > I thought the foul on Ings should have been a penalty to
       Southampton. It wasn't the first contact which was more a coming
       together but the second. Surprised VAR didn't get Friend to
       award it. Haven't see the Firmino incident.
       >
       > ajb95, you must have exceptional eyesight if you  immediately
       decided Murray didn't handle it.  Like some of the pundits
       including on Goals on Sunday, it looked like handball to me as
       it did to the West Ham defenders who immediately appealed.  It
       seemed to take Marriner quite some time to conclude it wasn't.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       My eyesight has frequently been called this 😉
       #Post#: 15308--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Decisions - weekend 1/2 February
   DIR By: Ref Fan
       Date: February 3, 2020, 2:43 am
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       Perhaps my description of Sterling's challenge as "deep orange"
       was a bit weak??  Hackett's in no doubt it should have been a
       straight Red!
       I wonder what Dermot will make of it.
       Hackett also offers the suggestion that VAR Hooper was making
       the proverbial "cup of tea" to miss the 2 penalty shouts at
       Liverpool.
       #Post#: 15309--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Decisions - weekend 1/2 February
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: February 3, 2020, 2:45 am
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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       > [quote author=Mackem ref link=topic=1352.msg15294#msg15294
       date=1580666421]
       > Agree with all you have said and also think you can add Andy
       Madley to the list for me for his failure to give Baldock a
       clear second yellow IMO. I know he had a straight red
       overturned, but I could understand that decision in full speed!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You’re right mackemref I forgot about that. A clear second ref
       missed.
       [/quote]
       This from my friend who was at the Palace game:
       Several poor decisions in addition to those highlighted on MOTD,
       but how on earth could he rush to produce a red for Ward and
       issue no card at all for the Baldock challenge on Zaha? Lucky
       there was VAR so he could see the error of his ways. Never in a
       million years was that a sending off offence. Whereas it feels
       as if he bottled the earlier decision as it would have been a
       second yellow.
       Another tick for VAR it seems.
       #Post#: 15311--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Decisions - weekend 1/2 February
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: February 3, 2020, 2:54 am
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       I think yellow for Sterling was fine personally.
       #Post#: 15315--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Decisions - weekend 1/2 February
   DIR By: Ref Fan
       Date: February 3, 2020, 4:09 am
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       It did occur to me whether Sterling was genuinely concerned for
       the welfare of his opponent or feared what colour card might be
       coming his way.
       Players stretching or lunging forward like that at pace will
       always create a potential problem if they miss the ball and get
       the man.  Personally, I felt it was more than just an easy
       yellow.
       #Post#: 15316--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Decisions - weekend 1/2 February
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: February 3, 2020, 4:13 am
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       --- Quote from: Ref Fan link ---
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       > Perhaps my description of Sterling's challenge as "deep
       orange" was a bit weak??  Hackett's in no doubt it should have
       been a straight Red!
       > I wonder what Dermot will make of it.
       >
       > Hackett also offers the suggestion that VAR Hooper was making
       the proverbial "cup of tea" to miss the 2 penalty shouts at
       Liverpool.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       How Hooper has maintained his SG1 status on pure ability is
       baffling. Perhaps the tea ladies at Stockley Park could do a
       better job than some of the rubbish we’ve seen this weekend.
       #Post#: 15317--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Decisions - weekend 1/2 February
   DIR By: dave26
       Date: February 3, 2020, 5:06 am
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       For me Pawson is extremely weak he is very easily swayed by
       players and also by their reactions
       #Post#: 15320--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Decisions - weekend 1/2 February
   DIR By: JohnCoyle
       Date: February 3, 2020, 6:37 am
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       To be honest, I don't think there was a huge difference between
       the Sterling incident and the one with Aubemeyang the other
       week, that was upgraded to a RC after Paul Tierney had gone to
       look at the monitor. I wonder if Mike Dean would have changed
       his decision had he seen the incident rather than leaving it to
       the VAR (who was unlikely to overrule)?
       #Post#: 15337--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Decisions - weekend 1/2 February
   DIR By: TundeP
       Date: February 3, 2020, 10:25 am
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       --- Quote from: dave26 link ---
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       > For me Pawson is extremely weak he is very easily swayed by
       players and also by their reactions
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       To me it seemed as he was taking the advice of the AR, Richard
       West, who had a good view of the incident.
       To anyone who thinks Pawson is extremely weak: watch the Ajax -
       PAOK game Champions League qualifier.
       On a different note: I am sure a large number of people here
       won't agree, but the more I read this forum, the more I"m
       getting the impression that, apart from the language, it is not
       all that different from what one gets on Twitter. Constant
       criticism of referees, sometimes for good reason, sometimes for
       no better reason than the poster likes / doesn't like the
       referee in question. Judgements based on looks and impressions
       (e.g. "he looks uninterested"). One or two favourites who can do
       no wrong, and if they do, that is part of their "personality".
       Well, my impression is that there are too many people on here
       who are deeply envious of the referees they criticise.   I don't
       mean the criticism when they have a bad game, that is only fair.
       But all too often a kind of jealousy mixed with contempt comes
       through. The posters on here should be better than that.
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