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       Re: Sat 18th – Tue 21st JAN 2020
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: January 23, 2020, 3:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: Charlieboy link ---
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       > [quote author=nemesis link=topic=1307.msg15021#msg15021
       date=1579732485]
       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
       link=topic=1307.msg15012#msg15012 date=1579697772]
       > Does seem to suggest that poor officiating in the first place
       leads to players getting frustrated and then the cards flourish.
       Kettle and Young fall nicely into that bracket.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Kettle, Young and Breakspear are all very poor referees. It's no
       co-incidence that they all hold individual card records !!
       [/quote]
       Whilst i agree regarding mr young who i have not yet seen have a
       decent match, Messrs kettle and Breakspear have been fine the
       last few times ive seen them, far from the very poor rating you
       attribute to them.
       [/quote]
       Have you seen Kettle officiate when he was in his "prime" of
       ruining games as a spectacle in the last decade?
       Many contributors on here have witnessed his wayward maverick
       tendencies, coupled with games where he completely ruined games
       as a spectacle for the paying customers.
       I will admit he has had good games in the past, but the games
       which have been adversely affected by him have been done so in a
       spectacular fashion.
       #Post#: 15059--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 18th – Tue 21st JAN 2020
   DIR By: QuoCob
       Date: January 24, 2020, 9:55 am
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       Leyton (x1) and Northampton (x2) charged with failing to control
       their players.
       #Post#: 15103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 18th – Tue 21st JAN 2020
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: January 26, 2020, 5:22 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
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       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
       link=topic=1307.msg15023#msg15023 date=1579737818]
       > A general theme seems to be prominent on these boards... the
       puzzle of how Young has managed to be elevated into the NL when
       the majority of his performances scrutinised here draw very bad
       reviews.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Even more puzzling is why he was given such a high profile ( For
       Division 1 ) top of the table clash at Ipswich towards the end
       of last year. Just about the most senior match which could be
       awarded to a NL referee and one in which he amply displayed his
       complete inability to officiate at anything remotely like a
       level of basic competence.
       [/quote]
       I don't find it puzzling at all. As Chief Executive Officer of
       Bedfordshire FA, he is one of the plethora of FA cronies that
       have found their way onto the Football League lists of Referees
       and Assistant Referees, even outnumbering teachers !
       Oh for the days of butchers (especially), bakers and candlestick
       makers !
       #Post#: 15108--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 18th – Tue 21st JAN 2020
   DIR By: exref_fromOZ
       Date: January 26, 2020, 7:04 am
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       --- Quote from: Skydank link ---
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       > Have only seen it live, and thought at the time it looked
       'soft', but once given it has to be a Red Card.
       >
       > Indeed, due to the delay I wonder if the AR gave it?
       > I do miss the flag across the chest signal which makes it
       obvious.
       >
       > After that I thought that Mr Breakspear was very inconsistant.
       >
       > Everybody knew that the next Peterborough foul would lead to a
       caution and it did, although it was no where as bad as what had
       gone previously.
       > He then let numerous similar challenges go from both sides
       before realising he had to get control and cautioning for a very
       minor offence.
       >
       > This led to the crowd, but more importantly the players losing
       a lot of respect for him and his decisions, and nobody knew what
       was a foul or a caution.
       >
       > As an aside, what role can the 4th official have in decision
       making?
       >
       > A clash right in front of the dug-outs with claim from the
       bench for handball.
       > It was obvious that the ref or assistant couldn't see because
       of the players blocking their view, but after a delay a free
       kick was given.
       > Again, the benches confronted the 4th official who had perhaps
       inadvertantly given the decision.
       > Is this allowed?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       After having a look I agree that the call has come from his AR.
       It's a foul, he was pushed in the back. The reaction of Phillips
       when the penalty was awarded (to me) showed that he knew he got
       busted. The flare up from the players was the sanction of a red
       card. The question: If attacker was not pushed by Phillips did
       they have a clear header on goal? Answer: Yes.
       It may have been a 'soft' push, but it prevented a potential
       goal scoring opportunity.
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