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       #Post#: 1831--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
   DIR By: Vlad Vladadze
       Date: October 22, 2018, 4:08 am
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       Group A
       24 October 2018, 18:55 CET - Bruges (Jan Breydelstadion)
       Club Brugge (BEL) - AS Monaco FC (FRA)
       Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
       Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
       Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
       Fourth Official: Lee Betts (ENG)
       Additional Assistant Referee 1: Paul Tierney (ENG)
       Additional Assistant Referee 2: Andre Marriner (ENG)
       UEFA Referee Observer: Eugen Strigel (GER)
       UEFA Delegate: Martin Sturkenboom (NED)
       Group B
       24 October 2018, 18:55 CET - Eindhoven (Philips Stadion)
       PSV Eindhoven (NED) - Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG)
       Referee: Slavko Vinčič (SVN)
       Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
       Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
       Fourth Official: Matej Žunič (SVN)
       Additional Assistant Referee 1: Rade Obrenovič (SVN)
       Additional Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Ponis (SVN)
       UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
       UEFA Delegate: Irakli Nakaidze (GEO)
       Group A
       24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Dortmund (Signal Iduna Park)
       Borussia Dortmund (GER) - Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
       Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
       Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
       Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
       Fourth Official: Stephen Child (ENG)
       Additional Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
       Additional Assistant Referee 2: Martin Atkinson (ENG)
       UEFA Referee Observer: Rune Pedersen (NOR)
       UEFA Delegate: Campbell Ogilvie (SCO)
       Group B
       24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Barcelona (Camp Nou)
       FC Barcelona (ESP) - FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
       Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hațegan (ROU)
       Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Șovre (ROU)
       Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Eugen Gheorghe (ROU)
       Fourth Official: Radu Adrian Ștefan Ghinguleac (ROU)
       Additional Assistant Referee 1: Radu Marian Petrescu (ROU)
       Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Constantin
       Colțescu (ROU)
       UEFA Referee Observer: Bertrand Layec (FRA)
       UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka (CZE)
       Group C
       24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
       Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) - SSC Napoli (ITA)
       Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
       Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
       Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
       Fourth Official: Eduard Beitinger (GER)
       Additional Assistant Referee 1: Tobias Stieler (GER)
       Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
       UEFA Referee Observer: László Vágner (HUN)
       UEFA Delegate: Per Svärd (SWE)
       Group C
       24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
       Liverpool FC (ENG) - FK Crvena zvezda (SRB)
       Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
       Assistant Referee 1: Jan Seidel (GER)
       Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
       Fourth Official: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
       Additional Assistant Referee 1: Tobias Welz (GER)
       Additional Assistant Referee 2: Patrick Ittrich (GER)
       UEFA Referee Observer: Jaap Uilenberg (NED)
       UEFA Delegate: Michal Mertinyák (SVK)
       Group D
       24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Moscow (RZhD Arena)
       FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) - FC Porto (POR)
       Referee: Robert Madden (SCO)
       Assistant Referee 1: Francis Connor (SCO)
       Assistant Referee 2: Alan Mulvanny (SCO)
       Fourth Official: Douglas Potter (SCO)
       Additional Assistant Referee 1: John Beaton (SCO)
       Additional Assistant Referee 2: Alan Muir (SCO)
       UEFA Referee Observer: Bo Karlsson (SWE)
       UEFA Delegate: Jean-Paul Mievis (BEL)
       Group D
       24 October 2018, 21:00 CET - Istanbul (Ali Sami Yen Spor
       Kompleksi Türk Telekom Stadyumu)
       Galatasaray (TUR) - FC Schalke 04 (GER)
       Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA)
       Assistant Referee 1: Hicham Zakrani (FRA)
       Assistant Referee 2: Frédéric Haquette (FRA)
       Fourth Official: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
       Additional Assistant Referee 1: Benoît Millot (FRA)
       Additional Assistant Referee 2: Jérôme Miguelgorry (FRA)
       UEFA Referee Observer: Gylfi Ţór Orrason (ISL)
       UEFA Delegate: Graham Hover (ENG)
       #Post#: 1834--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
   DIR By: Vlad Vladadze
       Date: October 22, 2018, 4:18 am
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       Daniel Siebert (GER) and Robert Madden (SCO) with unexpected
       UCL-debuts. Especially Daniel Siebert, a newly promoted referee
       to First Group already with CL appointment... Both will be
       observed by RefCom members.
       Taylor with bigger teams than Oliver this time.
       #Post#: 1840--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
   DIR By: guest3
       Date: October 22, 2018, 7:06 am
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       Big matches for Taylor, Bastien, Zwayer and Hategan. It's good
       to see mr Rosetti giving chances to everyone.
       Good appointment for Vincic too.
       #Post#: 1842--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: October 22, 2018, 7:49 am
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       Worried about Hategan in such a big game. Great game for Taylor.
       Congrats to Bobby, don't know how old he is and whether he can
       make the step up to elite group, but nice to see his good
       European performances being rewarded. Thought it was only a
       matter of time before Siebert got a game. He seems to be the
       next big thing coming out of Germany and already done some of
       the big clashes. Hope it goes well for him at Anfield!
       #Post#: 1892--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: October 24, 2018, 3:14 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > Mazic with the stand out tie. Important observer for him as
       well.
       >
       > Given a few lesser known officials are getting CL games, I’m
       surprised by the number of insignificant observers assigned to
       their games.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Probably not worth a separate General Discussion thread, but I
       thought Mazic and team were fine last night at Old Trafford.
       Yellow cards seemed spot on and the BT commentator even had the
       decency to admit that he was wrong to question one of the United
       yellow cards after it was replayed from a different angle.
       Offsides and foul detection were generally good as well. At one
       point early in the 2nd half, I thought we were going to have a
       rare CL sight of a change of referee as the commentator spoke of
       Mazic feeling his back and engaging in conversation with an AAR,
       but nothing came of it and maybe it was something to do with the
       comms equipment rather than his back. All in all, a good evening
       imo for two out of the three teams on the pitch, a pity about
       the third team    ???
       #Post#: 1919--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
   DIR By: Tweed
       Date: October 24, 2018, 1:40 pm
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       Good luck to Bobby Madden and team tonight, he gets a hard time
       at Fir Park but he is one of the best referees Scotland has and
       deserves his opportunity.
       #Post#: 2014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: October 28, 2018, 4:09 pm
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       --- Quote from: edy link ---
       >
       > Big matches for Taylor, Bastien, Zwayer and Hategan. It's good
       to see mr Rosetti giving chances to everyone.
       >
       > Good appointment for Vincic too.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Would you say Edy that Rosetti is going to be having a clear out
       of some of the dross in the elite group fairly quickly given the
       new officials that have been used. Or is it because of age
       related elite officials past 45 that are still in the top group?
       #Post#: 2017--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: October 28, 2018, 4:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > [quote author=edy link=topic=13.msg1840#msg1840
       date=1540209978]
       > Big matches for Taylor, Bastien, Zwayer and Hategan. It's good
       to see mr Rosetti giving chances to everyone.
       >
       > Good appointment for Vincic too.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Would you say Edy that Rosetti is going to be having a clear out
       of some of the dross in the elite group fairly quickly given the
       new officials that have been used. Or is it because of age
       related elite officials past 45 that are still in the top group?
       [/quote]
       Who is in the elite currently on a +1 year?
       #Post#: 2025--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
   DIR By: guest3
       Date: October 29, 2018, 7:53 am
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes link=topic=13.msg2014#msg2014
       date=1540760979]
       > [quote author=edy link=topic=13.msg1840#msg1840
       date=1540209978]
       > Big matches for Taylor, Bastien, Zwayer and Hategan. It's good
       to see mr Rosetti giving chances to everyone.
       >
       > Good appointment for Vincic too.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Would you say Edy that Rosetti is going to be having a clear out
       of some of the dross in the elite group fairly quickly given the
       new officials that have been used. Or is it because of age
       related elite officials past 45 that are still in the top group?
       [/quote]
       Who is in the elite currently on a +1 year?
       [/quote]
       No-one yet. Mazic, Kuipers, Rocchi and Mallenco are 45+. It is
       said that the first 3 will retire in December and the last one
       on May. That would open 4 spots.
       I believe that we may see a couple of demotions. Kralovec is in
       a difficult spot and I believe that Karasev and Sidiropoulos
       haven't convinced the committee completely.
       So, if we add those, we end up with 7 spots. Time to bring fresh
       blood, I would say.
       #Post#: 2028--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: October 29, 2018, 8:18 am
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       It's always very interesting and informative to read edy's take
       on senior European refereeing. How things change about so
       quickly. It's not long ago that Karasev was being widely tipped
       as the next big thing. Marciniak seems to have had a torrid time
       of things lately as well but I note edy doesn't include him as
       among those at risk.
       Kuipers in particular will leave big boots to fill and Rocchi
       was no slouch either. I never particularly was a fan of Mazic
       and Mallenco but they also will leave a great gap in experience
       and so Rosetti is wise to start 'blooding' some new Elite
       referees quickly because, as I repeat ad nauseam, there is no
       substitute for experience.
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