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Re: Bobby Madley interview
DIR By: bmb
Date: December 31, 2019, 2:46 pm
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> A sad aspect of all this is that the ‘friend’ in question
appears to be a refereeing colleague, unless I’ve misunderstood
what he’s written.
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I read it exactly the same way.
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Re: Bobby Madley interview
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: December 31, 2019, 5:20 pm
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> [quote author=TVOS link=topic=1282.msg14353#msg14353
date=1577823884]
> A sad aspect of all this is that the ‘friend’ in question
appears to be a refereeing colleague, unless I’ve misunderstood
what he’s written.
>
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I read it exactly the same way.
[/quote]
I'm not necessarily reading that myself?
It sounds like there was an argument with said person over a
family matter and that person then threatened to send it to
'your boss'. You'd have thought if it was someone in refereeing
they themselves might get into trouble for sending it
anonymously to embarrass someone (depending if they were still
refereeing of course and who's to say that didn't happen.)
#Post#: 14358--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley interview
DIR By: Tim Wills
Date: December 31, 2019, 10:31 pm
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It's a really difficult situation not just for Bobby but also
for his employers. I suspect the PGMOL probably did want to give
Bobby just a warning but were concerned the video could have
ended up in the media who would spun the story for all it's
worth. It would have been an even bigger issue had the PGMOL
simply given him a ticking off as the Press would then of have 2
targets to throw mud at. As BMB says, it's a salutary warning of
what can happen for a momentary lapse of judgement. :(
#Post#: 14359--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley interview
DIR By: reflector
Date: January 1, 2020, 3:26 am
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I am sure we have all done things of which we are not proud and
regret later but, somehow, I don't really have much sympathy
for Bobby Madley over this. It was an act of crass stupidity
which certainly years ago might not even have raised an eyebrow
but we have moved on now and surely someone in his 30's holding
down a high profile job which puts him in the public eye should
have sufficient common sense to know that such behaviour is
unacceptable. An employer might be prepared to take a more
lenient view if it were committed by an immature teenager but
this was a Select Group FIFA referee near the top of his
profession, for whom any indiscretions would inevitably court
adverse publicity, not only for himself but for his colleagues
both professional and amateur and indeed the game as a whole.
It might also cross their mind that if someone can commit such
an indiscretion without any thought for its possible
consequences, what else might he be capable of and what does it
say to the many hundreds and thousands of referees, some younger
and more impressionable, to whom he should be setting an
example.
I am sorry that he has had to learn the hard way and that it has
cost him dearly but I hope he can now concentrate on getting on
with his life in whatever he chooses to do. Who knows, he may
even become prime minister, in which office the rules about what
we can and cannot say about matters of discrimination, whether
race, gender or disability, no longer seem to apply!
#Post#: 14362--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley interview
DIR By: bmb
Date: January 1, 2020, 6:49 am
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Im disabled myself Reflector and I have to say I'm not insulted
by what he did because it was self depreciation not an attack on
someone else. I have a back injury from 1997 that has seen a
major degeneration of my spine, particularly over the last 10
years where I have now all but lost my mobility altogether. I
can no longer even stand up unaided. Walking I have my little
old granny frame (as I call it) with wheels and seriously a
snail could make it the whole way around a football pitch in the
time it would take me to shuffle from the tech area to the
byline, I understand self depreciation because I do it all the
time. I have one particular friend who will often give me a lift
when I need to go anywhere, he's 78. Every single time he comes
round to pick me up he puts the kettle on & tells me to get
going to the car & he'll give me a cuppa head start, I laugh and
leave him to his cuppa while I shuffle off to the car, he's not
actually beaten me to the car yet but I never have to wait long!
It is a joke between us, he's not discriminating against me
because I am disabled. As a pensioner he no longer works but I'd
never dream of saying to his boss if he had one that he was
behaving in a discriminatory manner especially over a long
standing self deprecating joke. Trust me in 6 secs of video of
me you'd have a hard time ascertaining if I was walking or just
standing - I'd not move a whole lot in that short a time!
This explanation around the context, a suspension and
'appropriate training' would have, imo, been accepted by the
majority 18 months ago, it was stupid yes but in the day and age
where our Prime Minister and other politicians say far worse
things on an almost daily basis, often with malice, and no-one
seems to bat an eye about it I feel the punishment far
outweighed the crime.
It does however remain a lesson as to how quick you can lose
everything you have worked for & I'm glad that Bobby has decided
to use it to advise & show younger referees just how careful you
need to be.
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Re: Bobby Madley interview
DIR By: Microscopist
Date: January 1, 2020, 7:19 am
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> ..a snail could make it the whole way around a football
pitch..
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Or even Aguero?
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Re: Bobby Madley interview
DIR By: bmb
Date: January 1, 2020, 7:44 am
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--- Quote from: Microscopist link ---
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> [quote]..a snail could make it the whole way around a football
pitch..
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Or even Aguero?
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Well that one might be pushing it ;)
#Post#: 14369--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley interview
DIR By: bigt53uk
Date: January 1, 2020, 8:54 am
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He should be proud of himself to explain exactly what happened.
To be sacked for that I think its Political Correctness gone
wrong. We miss Referees of his calibre
#Post#: 14370--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bobby Madley interview
DIR By: Gruffalow
Date: January 1, 2020, 9:22 am
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So many people are involved in our football we watch play and
love all parties I am confident have had these scenarios to deal
with - I am sure we can all recollect acts of stupidity and
foolishness from players, spectators club officials and team
management, far to many to list I am sure, but just a thought,
football pundit is caught on camera spitting from a car at a
child and he keeps his job!
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Re: Bobby Madley interview
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: January 1, 2020, 12:57 pm
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
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> Excellent post Whistleblower (an unfortunate name in the
circumstances?!)
>
> I also wonder, in passing, what impact this has had on Andy
Madley and if there might be extra scrutiny on him as he
prepares to referee Watford V Wolves tomorrow. I'm sure that
Bobby has been delighted to see him promoted to both the PL and
FIFA list this year.
>
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When I took on this non de plume I wasn't really thinking of
being a purveyor of secrets or exposing hidden practices, rather
it was more of a pun
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