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Re: UEFA Referees Categories - second half of the 2019/20 season
DIR By: Vlad Vladadze
Date: December 14, 2019, 3:54 pm
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> May I ask what might be a silly question borne out of
ignorance of the system, why have Madley and Coote gone into the
Second Category when there is a Third Category? Just interested.
>
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The adventure of newly FIFA-listed referees from Top 5 UEFA
nations (ENG, ESP, FRA, GER, ITA) begins from UEFA Second
Category.
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Re: UEFA Referees Categories - second half of the 2019/20 season
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: December 14, 2019, 5:14 pm
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> How come Kuipers hasn't come off the list?
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There's no longer an upper age limit. Previously Kuipers would
have come off 12 months ago I think as he turned 45 in March
2018 but now he's fine to continue to the Euros at least.
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Re: UEFA Referees Categories - second half of the 2019/20 season
DIR By: guest3
Date: December 15, 2019, 5:50 am
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--- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
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> May I ask what might be a silly question borne out of
ignorance of the system, why have Madley and Coote gone into the
Second Category when there is a Third Category? Just interested.
>
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Because on the 5 major football leagues (ESP, FRA, GER, ITA,
ENG) the referees are used to top matches and they gather more
experience than other referees. So they are included at the 2nd
group. That has been happening for years (at least 10).
#Post#: 13841--------------------------------------------------
Re: UEFA Referees Categories - second half of the 2019/20 season
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: December 16, 2019, 5:47 am
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Any chance of any of the new elite referees making a late push
to be in the middle at Euro 2020 or is it too soon for that?
Rocchi coming off the list means Orsato will surely referee at
the Euros.
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Re: UEFA Referees Categories - second half of the 2019/20 season
DIR By: ajb95
Date: December 16, 2019, 8:03 am
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
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> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1233.msg13784#msg13784
date=1576319793]
> How come Kuipers hasn't come off the list?
>
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There's no longer an upper age limit. Previously Kuipers would
have come off 12 months ago I think as he turned 45 in March
2018 but now he's fine to continue to the Euros at least.
[/quote]
If there's no age limit why did Rocchi come off?
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Re: UEFA Referees Categories - second half of the 2019/20 season
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: December 16, 2019, 8:17 am
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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> [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1233.msg13800#msg13800
date=1576365253]
> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1233.msg13784#msg13784
date=1576319793]
> How come Kuipers hasn't come off the list?
>
--- End Quote ---
There's no longer an upper age limit. Previously Kuipers would
have come off 12 months ago I think as he turned 45 in March
2018 but now he's fine to continue to the Euros at least.
[/quote]
If there's no age limit why did Rocchi come off?
[/quote]
I'm not sure of the exact situation but it was anticipated that
he would come off - I'm not sure if it was Rocchi's decision to
step down or the Italian FA's.
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Re: UEFA Referees Categories - second half of the 2019/20 season
DIR By: kelxref
Date: December 16, 2019, 8:59 am
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Isn’t there some specific Italian rule that a ref can only be on
the Serie A list for 10 years at most? Perhaps that’s why
Rocchi’s leaving the international list.
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Re: UEFA Referees Categories - second half of the 2019/20 season
DIR By: Vlad Vladadze
Date: December 16, 2019, 11:35 am
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In Italy:
- non-FIFA referees are allowed to officiate in Serie A only for
ten years, then they have to retire
- FIFA referees are allowed to stay until they are 45yo
- only the biggest names like Rizzoli or Rocchi are allowed to
get a one-year derogation (that's why Rocchi had to step down
being 46yo).
So it depends on national association rules if a certain referee
could continue on FIFA niveau or not.
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Re: UEFA Referees Categories - second half of the 2019/20 season
DIR By: bmb
Date: December 16, 2019, 11:40 am
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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> [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1233.msg13800#msg13800
date=1576365253]
> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1233.msg13784#msg13784
date=1576319793]
> How come Kuipers hasn't come off the list?
>
--- End Quote ---
There's no longer an upper age limit. Previously Kuipers would
have come off 12 months ago I think as he turned 45 in March
2018 but now he's fine to continue to the Euros at least.
[/quote]
If there's no age limit why did Rocchi come off?
[/quote]
It's not an automatic extension beyond 45. You have to be
nominated by your federation for a +1 year & as well as passing
the fitness test also take some other medical tests. He may well
have decided he didn't want to carry on for an extra year.
See Vlad's explanation - he talks more sense than me!
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