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Re: Sat 14th – Mon 16th DEC 2019
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: December 15, 2019, 3:35 pm
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> I have seen the game on MOTD. I think it’s a little bit of
sour grapes by Mr Bruce. Two big decisions really. First the
corner. Mr Robinson initially gave a goal kick. His Assistant
has obviously had a word in the ear . Changed to a corner. It’s
the correct decision. No foul there for me and his defenders
should have done better at the corner. Second incident is the
yellow card for Carroll. Spot on for me. Carroll is a big bloke
and has caught Mee with his elbow. Mee hadn’t left the ground so
Carroll was always going to contact him on his way down . I
don’t think he has gone to do him. Never a red card. I seem to
recall that the PL managers did the same the last couple of
seasons. Have a pop at any SG2 refs who have their first couple
of games in the PL. . I think he did okay and hopefully they
will continue to give him and others these games. Burnley v
Newcastle was always going to be a battle game for any ref. When
all said and done its how the Assessor and PL view it.
>
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I agree with you on the goal kick / corner incident. However I
am not convinced about the Carroll incident. I think the big man
knew exactly what he was doing and led with his elbow into the
challenge, which was reckless and endangered the safety of his
opponent. Tim Robinson obviously saw something wrong in
cautioning Carroll, but I believe that Carroll was a lucky man
that the card was not red.
#Post#: 13837--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 14th – Mon 16th DEC 2019
DIR By: ClaretandBlue06
Date: December 15, 2019, 4:31 pm
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Mr Robinson had a great 60 mins up until the goal. He then gave
newcastle a free kIck for two of their players tackling each
other and seemed to lose it from there. Bruce can’t have any
complaints as the corner given for the goal was eventually the
correct decision. Players hitting the deck at every moment
possible didn’t help Robinson in this game nor did the
conditions. I would like to see him referee another game as I’m
not quiet sure whether he is ready to referee in the PL yet.
#Post#: 13838--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 14th – Mon 16th DEC 2019
DIR By: TVOS
Date: December 15, 2019, 4:55 pm
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--- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
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> [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=1229.msg13823#msg13823
date=1576427437]
> [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1229.msg13820#msg13820
date=1576425636]
> [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=1229.msg13811#msg13811
date=1576415840]
> [quote author=Bakis link=topic=1229.msg13809#msg13809
date=1576414782]
> Classic diversionary tactic from Bruce. I wonder where he
could have learned it in his playing days?
>
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Haha --I like that!
Bruce did have previous with this referee because he was
refereeing the Carabao Cup game between Newcastle and Leicester
earlier in the season which I attended. It was the game in which
Choudray for Leicester received a caution for a very bad tackle
on Ritchie, who has not played since that game in August. Bruce
was not alone in thinking that it should have been a red and
this probably came into his thinking when he did not get the
decision for the Burnley goal.
As far as the comments made by Sean Dyche are concerned, he just
said that Carroll could easily have been dismissed for his
challenge the way the game is today --he is correct. His main
point related to why a 'rookie' referee should be given a
Burnley v Newcastle fixture because if they are good enough to
referee in the PL they could be given a match involving one of
the big clubs. I have to agree with that concept, in fact, a
game involving the big clubs would probably be less physical
than the game yesterday ----que sera sera.
[/quote]
I don't really give Dyche's comments any credence.
Every PL referee has to start somewhere and it seems more a case
of 'We don't want to be the first' but two clubs always ahve to
be.
Starting with 12th V 11th (currently) seems a reasonable place
to start. I'm not sure it would do anyone any good to throw
Robinson straight into Arsenal V Man City today for instance.
[/quote]
Just for the record, I did not say that he should be refereeing
Arsenal v Man City. I said a match involving one of the big
clubs, which is quite different.
It is no big deal refereeing one of the big clubs for your
first match because they can always fall back on VAR if they get
something wrong and the fans of the big clubs are much more
reasonable that Burnley fans!
[/quote]
Ouch! For the record, living in the North West now, I have
attended most of the Burnley v Palace games over the past 10
years and I have never had any problem with the Burnley fans.
And I cannot fault the hospitality of the Burnley Cricket Club
before and after games either, and it doesn't matter who you
support and what the result was.
[/quote]
It did when they were parading around Division Four in the
1980s, thinking they were bigger and better than everyone else!
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Re: Sat 14th – Mon 16th DEC 2019
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: December 15, 2019, 5:24 pm
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--- Quote from: TVOS link ---
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> [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=1229.msg13825#msg13825
date=1576430640]
> [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=1229.msg13823#msg13823
date=1576427437]
> [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=1229.msg13820#msg13820
date=1576425636]
> [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=1229.msg13811#msg13811
date=1576415840]
> [quote author=Bakis link=topic=1229.msg13809#msg13809
date=1576414782]
> Classic diversionary tactic from Bruce. I wonder where he
could have learned it in his playing days?
>
--- End Quote ---
Haha --I like that!
Bruce did have previous with this referee because he was
refereeing the Carabao Cup game between Newcastle and Leicester
earlier in the season which I attended. It was the game in which
Choudray for Leicester received a caution for a very bad tackle
on Ritchie, who has not played since that game in August. Bruce
was not alone in thinking that it should have been a red and
this probably came into his thinking when he did not get the
decision for the Burnley goal.
As far as the comments made by Sean Dyche are concerned, he just
said that Carroll could easily have been dismissed for his
challenge the way the game is today --he is correct. His main
point related to why a 'rookie' referee should be given a
Burnley v Newcastle fixture because if they are good enough to
referee in the PL they could be given a match involving one of
the big clubs. I have to agree with that concept, in fact, a
game involving the big clubs would probably be less physical
than the game yesterday ----que sera sera.
[/quote]
I don't really give Dyche's comments any credence.
Every PL referee has to start somewhere and it seems more a case
of 'We don't want to be the first' but two clubs always ahve to
be.
Starting with 12th V 11th (currently) seems a reasonable place
to start. I'm not sure it would do anyone any good to throw
Robinson straight into Arsenal V Man City today for instance.
[/quote]
Just for the record, I did not say that he should be refereeing
Arsenal v Man City. I said a match involving one of the big
clubs, which is quite different.
It is no big deal refereeing one of the big clubs for your
first match because they can always fall back on VAR if they get
something wrong and the fans of the big clubs are much more
reasonable that Burnley fans!
[/quote]
Ouch! For the record, living in the North West now, I have
attended most of the Burnley v Palace games over the past 10
years and I have never had any problem with the Burnley fans.
And I cannot fault the hospitality of the Burnley Cricket Club
before and after games either, and it doesn't matter who you
support and what the result was.
[/quote]
It did when they were parading around Division Four in the
1980s, thinking they were bigger and better than everyone else!
[/quote]
Like many clubs in the 1980s, Burnley had their share of loonies
who were a disgrace to the club and some are still around.
Fortunately, most seem to have been weeded out, however, there
are still a number of clubs who still have them and also think
that they are bigger and better than everyone else ---just have
a close look at the Championship!
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