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#Post#: 13317--------------------------------------------------
Re: 20/21 NLS restructuring
DIR By: AFAref
Date: November 26, 2019, 12:20 pm
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--- Quote from: Maltese Falcon link ---
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>
> Having now checked, there are currently only 5 Supply Leagues
officiated by Level 3 referees .. Eastern Counties Prem, North
West Counties Prem, Northern Counties East Prem, Western League
Prem and Northern League Division One
>
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All anomalies in sense of location and the reason why these
leagues were given this status for referees. Even with the extra
leagues at step 3 and 4, there would still be too much
travelling for officials in these extremities for official's,
or, they only get a game every 4 to 6 weeks invariably at the
same club/few clubs and that can’t be right for a merit table
either
#Post#: 13878--------------------------------------------------
Re: 20/21 NLS restructuring
DIR By: Carter
Date: December 16, 2019, 2:46 pm
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Well the info is now out
All step 5's & 6' will now be supply leagues with L4 refs, and
god knows waht level on the line
L3 will ref Steps 3's & 4's
I forsee a lot of spare weekends next season for both levels in
some geographical areas
#Post#: 13880--------------------------------------------------
Re: 20/21 NLS restructuring
DIR By: ajb95
Date: December 16, 2019, 4:17 pm
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--- Quote from: Carter link ---
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> Well the info is now out
>
> All step 5's & 6' will now be supply leagues with L4 refs, and
god knows waht level on the line
>
> L3 will ref Steps 3's & 4's
>
> I forsee a lot of spare weekends next season for both levels
in some geographical areas
>
--- End Quote ---
Particular the midlands which has lost its supply league status!
#Post#: 13884--------------------------------------------------
Re: 20/21 NLS restructuring
DIR By: lincs22
Date: December 17, 2019, 2:59 am
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--- Quote from: Carter link ---
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> All step 5's & 6' will now be supply leagues with L4 refs, and
god knows what level on the line
>
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It will be whatever they get - so likely to be L5 & L6's on
promotion track. So as JCFC moans about the NWC Div 1 being the
league of old AR's; he can add NWC Prem as well next year.
It will be interesting to see what the Step 5 club feel about
the perceived drop in refereeing standard to L4.
Also, note that some Step 6 league in the South lose their
supply league status (so no L4's) on them but a couple of league
(currently Step 7) in the North will retain their Supply league
status in the short-term to ensure that the referees have
sufficient coverage.
#Post#: 13899--------------------------------------------------
Re: 20/21 NLS restructuring
DIR By: JCFC
Date: December 17, 2019, 6:15 am
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Apologies for my "moans" on the subject of the League of Aged
Assistants - they were meant as whimsical observations, though I
do plead guilty to moaning about Northern rail.
There could be problems ahead: the NCEFL has occasionally had
difficulty in finding Level 4s to cover Step 6 matches. I recall
several years ago being surprised to find Luke Watson refereeing
one such early season game at Emley, and feared that he must
have been demoted - happily not the case. One aforementioned
Aged Assistant was recently listed as referee in one NCEFL Step
6 game. I was almost tempted to head to Penistone a fortnight
ago, when a liked Level 2b referee was appointed to their Step 5
game. Quite how they will be able to find Level 4s to cover
their top division as well remains uncertain.
#Post#: 13902--------------------------------------------------
Re: 20/21 NLS restructuring
DIR By: Ref Watcher
Date: December 17, 2019, 8:36 am
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--- Quote from: JCFC link ---
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> Quite how they will be able to find Level 4s to cover their
top division as well remains uncertain.
>
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At the moment they have level fours on the line at their top
division games. Some will be needed to help cover the lines on
the additional northern step four division but they can use half
of them to cover their refereeing requirements.
On a separate issue, I am not sure if it has been mentioned
elsewhere on the forum but last week level fours were sounded
out about whether they would be interested in becoming
specialist assistant referees.
#Post#: 13903--------------------------------------------------
Re: 20/21 NLS restructuring
DIR By: ajb95
Date: December 17, 2019, 9:08 am
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--- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
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> [quote author=JCFC link=topic=1182.msg13899#msg13899
date=1576584958]
> Quite how they will be able to find Level 4s to cover their
top division as well remains uncertain.
>
--- End Quote ---
At the moment they have level fours on the line at their top
division games. Some will be needed to help cover the lines on
the additional northern step four division but they can use half
of them to cover their refereeing requirements.
On a separate issue, I am not sure if it has been mentioned
elsewhere on the forum but last week level fours were sounded
out about whether they would be interested in becoming
specialist assistant referees.
[/quote]
I echo your sentiments JCFC
I’m interested in promotion candidates: please can someone
explain how it works currently as it differs from location to
location.
If someone is going 5-4 or 6-4 they would referee on regional
leagues like the Manchester League or the Cheshire League or the
Central Mids League.
When they then become 4s they go onto the combined counties, the
NWCFL or the central mids prem. How is that going to change or
is it going to change?
#Post#: 13927--------------------------------------------------
Re: 20/21 NLS restructuring
DIR By: GasRef95
Date: December 18, 2019, 3:22 pm
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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> [quote author=Ref Watcher link=topic=1182.msg13902#msg13902
date=1576593394]
> [quote author=JCFC link=topic=1182.msg13899#msg13899
date=1576584958]
> Quite how they will be able to find Level 4s to cover their
top division as well remains uncertain.
>
--- End Quote ---
At the moment they have level fours on the line at their top
division games. Some will be needed to help cover the lines on
the additional northern step four division but they can use half
of them to cover their refereeing requirements.
On a separate issue, I am not sure if it has been mentioned
elsewhere on the forum but last week level fours were sounded
out about whether they would be interested in becoming
specialist assistant referees.
[/quote]
I echo your sentiments JCFC
I’m interested in promotion candidates: please can someone
explain how it works currently as it differs from location to
location.
If someone is going 5-4 or 6-4 they would referee on regional
leagues like the Manchester League or the Cheshire League or the
Central Mids League.
When they then become 4s they go onto the combined counties, the
NWCFL or the central mids prem. How is that going to change or
is it going to change?
[/quote]
My understanding is this won't change, supply league referee's
will still referee supply league football and county referees
will referee county football - just that the pools will change
shape/size. In the NW for example I can foresee a merger of
referees between the combined and NWC pool, either as 2
different sized pools or 1 large pool.
That aside, what will be interesting to see in the north west is
that 'county referees' will now potentially need to referee 2x
leagues that were formally refereed by supply league PLUS be
assistants for a league that formally had L4 assistants (NWC
Prem).
We don't know anything for certain and we are only speculating
on a forum, but I know I wouldn't want to be an appointments
officer! !
#Post#: 13932--------------------------------------------------
Re: 20/21 NLS restructuring
DIR By: ajb95
Date: December 19, 2019, 1:43 am
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--- Quote from: GasRef95 link ---
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> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=1182.msg13903#msg13903
date=1576595327]
> [quote author=Ref Watcher link=topic=1182.msg13902#msg13902
date=1576593394]
> [quote author=JCFC link=topic=1182.msg13899#msg13899
date=1576584958]
> Quite how they will be able to find Level 4s to cover their
top division as well remains uncertain.
>
--- End Quote ---
At the moment they have level fours on the line at their top
division games. Some will be needed to help cover the lines on
the additional northern step four division but they can use half
of them to cover their refereeing requirements.
On a separate issue, I am not sure if it has been mentioned
elsewhere on the forum but last week level fours were sounded
out about whether they would be interested in becoming
specialist assistant referees.
[/quote]
I echo your sentiments JCFC
I’m interested in promotion candidates: please can someone
explain how it works currently as it differs from location to
location.
If someone is going 5-4 or 6-4 they would referee on regional
leagues like the Manchester League or the Cheshire League or the
Central Mids League.
When they then become 4s they go onto the combined counties, the
NWCFL or the central mids prem. How is that going to change or
is it going to change?
[/quote]
My understanding is this won't change, supply league referee's
will still referee supply league football and county referees
will referee county football - just that the pools will change
shape/size. In the NW for example I can foresee a merger of
referees between the combined and NWC pool, either as 2
different sized pools or 1 large pool.
That aside, what will be interesting to see in the north west is
that 'county referees' will now potentially need to referee 2x
leagues that were formally refereed by supply league PLUS be
assistants for a league that formally had L4 assistants (NWC
Prem).
We don't know anything for certain and we are only speculating
on a forum, but I know I wouldn't want to be an appointments
officer! !
[/quote]
Thanks for the insight - personally I think nwc prem games
should be reffed by level 4s with 5s on the line, and then lower
level ref can line in the north and south
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Re: 20/21 NLS restructuring
DIR By: bmb
Date: January 6, 2020, 9:31 am
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