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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: bmb
Date: January 27, 2019, 2:14 pm
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> Then have a contestable drop ball.
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That is up to the players. A referee cannot decide who contests
the ball so if the players choose not to contest it then that's
up to them.
#Post#: 4470--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: January 27, 2019, 2:18 pm
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On a general note, I felt Marriner's signals after the decision
weas overturned were rather half-hearted - I'm not sure he even
blew the whistle and it seemed like it was only when a message
appeared on the big screen that teh supporters reacted.
Another reason why I prefer the referee to go and look for
themselves like happened at the World Cup - I think it made the
process a lot clearer.
#Post#: 4471--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: guest18
Date: January 27, 2019, 2:32 pm
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> [quote author=RCG link=topic=100.msg4464#msg4464
date=1548617308]
> Then have a contestable drop ball.
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That is up to the players. A referee cannot decide who contests
the ball so if the players choose not to contest it then that's
up to them.
[/quote]
In theory
#Post#: 4478--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: January 27, 2019, 4:02 pm
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> Law quite clear - drop ball at point of incident and
everything else after is irrelevant.
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I've been trying to clarify this - please could you advise of
the exact wording?
#Post#: 4512--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: rustyref
Date: January 28, 2019, 12:49 pm
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The restart is for whatever happens first. If the whistle was
blown before the ball went out of play then of course the
restart is a dropped ball, whereas if the ball went out before
the whistle the retake should be a corner. Having seen slowed
down replay it is clear the ball was over the line by some
distance by the time the whistle was blown. Had there not been
VAR, and rather (as an example) the AR had advised the referee
had make a mistake, I could accept getting the restart wrong.
But this shouldn't happen with VAR, Graham Scott should be
saying something like "cancel the penalty, restart with corner
kick as the ball was out of play when you blew the whistle".
#Post#: 4514--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: January 28, 2019, 12:51 pm
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I've seen a lot of people, such as Keith Hackett, suggesting
that if they couldn't have VAR at every game in the fourth round
they should have waited until the fifth round to introduce it
for each tie.
But I don't really see what advantage that would serve - the
likes of Everton would still have been knocked out of the cup in
the fourth round and surely the aim for most supporters is to
win the cup, not to get to the fifth round!
#Post#: 4515--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: nemesis
Date: January 28, 2019, 1:32 pm
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> The restart is for whatever happens first. If the whistle was
blown before the ball went out of play then of course the
restart is a dropped ball, whereas if the ball went out before
the whistle the retake should be a corner. Having seen slowed
down replay it is clear the ball was over the line by some
distance by the time the whistle was blown. Had there not been
VAR, and rather (as an example) the AR had advised the referee
had make a mistake, I could accept getting the restart wrong.
But this shouldn't happen with VAR, Graham Scott should be
saying something like "cancel the penalty, restart with corner
kick as the ball was out of play when you blew the whistle".
>
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Thank you for clarifying.
And therein lies the problem. If they can't get something simple
like that right what hope is there. They need to recruit some
good competent people to be VARs who don't need years of
practical refereeing experience.
#Post#: 4516--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: ajb95
Date: January 28, 2019, 2:52 pm
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I’ve been told that if the var has come in on a decision a
dropped ball is awarded regardless of whether it went out or
not. Make of that what you want!
#Post#: 4517--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: rustyref
Date: January 28, 2019, 3:11 pm
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Well now we have another one. Andy Madley has just given a
penalty to Brentford that at best can be described as soft, and
in all reality was plain wrong. Had that been at a PL ground it
would undoubtedly been overturned, so the complaints about
inconsistency will continue.
#Post#: 4518--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Gorgeous George
Date: January 28, 2019, 3:37 pm
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I think Watkins can expect a charge from the FA for a clear case
of simulation that has deceived the match officials.
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