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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: nemesis
Date: January 27, 2019, 5:11 am
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> Absolutely disgusting challenge in last nights game between H
Berlin and Schalke in the 13th minute. Challenge ticked all the
boxes for a red card: straight leg, over the top of the ball,
studs up! In fairness to herr brych I think his view is blocked,
and he gives a yellow!
>
> VAR is in use in Germany, why did the var not say to brych you
need to looo at this challenge and decide whether it’s yellow or
red and I guarAntee he would have changed his decision! What’s
the point in having it if it isn’t going to be used for what’s
its supposed to?
>
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Whilst you have the same people operating VAR as those making
mistakes on the field, all one big cosy (well paid) group, it
won't work effectively. Good VAR decision makers whose expertise
lies purely in decision making - not fitness, man management,
pandering to spoiled brats of players etc - should do the job.
It doesn't need a fellow referee thinking "I can see why he got
that wrong", it needs someone to say "that was wrong".
#Post#: 4436--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Matt
Date: January 27, 2019, 5:22 am
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--- Quote from: nemesis link ---
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> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=100.msg4418#msg4418
date=1548518209]
> Absolutely disgusting challenge in last nights game between H
Berlin and Schalke in the 13th minute. Challenge ticked all the
boxes for a red card: straight leg, over the top of the ball,
studs up! In fairness to herr brych I think his view is blocked,
and he gives a yellow!
>
> VAR is in use in Germany, why did the var not say to brych you
need to looo at this challenge and decide whether it’s yellow or
red and I guarAntee he would have changed his decision! What’s
the point in having it if it isn’t going to be used for what’s
its supposed to?
>
--- End Quote ---
Whilst you have the same people operating VAR as those making
mistakes on the field, all one big cosy (well paid) group, it
won't work effectively. Good VAR decision makers whose expertise
lies purely in decision making - not fitness, man management,
pandering to spoiled brats of players etc - should do the job.
It doesn't need a fellow referee thinking "I can see why he got
that wrong", it needs someone to say "that was wrong".
[/quote]
Likewise it needs someone to go "that's a foul in the penalty
area" it's a penalty. None of this nonsense of "there's not
enough in it"
#Post#: 4459--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: January 27, 2019, 12:28 pm
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VAR is used at Stamford Bridge and rightly overturns a penalty
decision, however, should it not have been a corner to Sheffield
Wednesday?
A bounce ball was given to the Chelsea keeper and within less
than a minute Chelsea have a penalty at the other end and that
was a correct decision.
My question is ---why was a bounce up given?
#Post#: 4460--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: refjd
Date: January 27, 2019, 12:30 pm
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--- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
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> VAR is used at Stamford Bridge and rightly overturns a penalty
decision, however, should it not have been a corner to Sheffield
Wednesday?
> A bounce ball was given to the Chelsea keeper and within less
than a minute Chelsea have a penalty at the other end and that
was a correct decision.
> My question is ---why was a bounce up given?
>
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I was going to ask this too. I didn't understand why it wasn't a
corner?
#Post#: 4461--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: January 27, 2019, 12:59 pm
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I'm not 100% certain but I suspect Andre Marriner blew the
whistle before the ball was out of play in which case a corner
technically can't be given - although it does seem very unfair
that the ball was simply given to the Chelsea goalkeeper rather
than allowing Sheffield Wednesday to contest it in some way.
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Carter
Date: January 27, 2019, 1:04 pm
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
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> I'm not 100% certain but I suspect Andre Marriner blew the
whistle before the ball was out of play in which case a corner
technically can't be given - although it does seem very unfair
that the ball was simply given to the Chelsea goalkeeper rather
than allowing Sheffield Wednesday to contest it in some way.
>
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There is not a cat in hells chance he could have blown beofre
the ball went out.
Very much an incorrect restart
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Failed Ref
Date: January 27, 2019, 1:07 pm
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Law quite clear - drop ball at point of incident and everything
else after is irrelevant.
#Post#: 4464--------------------------------------------------
Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: RCG
Date: January 27, 2019, 1:28 pm
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Then have a contestable drop ball.
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: guest18
Date: January 27, 2019, 1:49 pm
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> Then have a contestable drop ball.
>
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Couldn’t agree more! Also does the VAR look at encroachment or
the penalty taker pausing as the ball is approached, as I felt
William may well have done
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: January 27, 2019, 2:00 pm
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--- Quote from: Failed Ref link ---
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> Law quite clear - drop ball at point of incident and
everything else after is irrelevant.
>
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Excuse my ignorance, I have been retired a long time but which
Law states this and just what does it say?
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