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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: ryan80
Date: January 28, 2019, 3:45 pm
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Yes, not a good call from a potential select group official!!
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Matt
Date: January 28, 2019, 4:01 pm
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--- Quote from: Gorgeous George link ---
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> I think Watkins can expect a charge from the FA for a clear
case of simulation that has deceived the match officials.
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but there was no penalty therefore the charge is not complete.
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Gorgeous George
Date: January 28, 2019, 4:13 pm
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I’m not sure I follow your logic? They got the pen and scored
from it?
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/47036420
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Matt
Date: January 28, 2019, 4:17 pm
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--- Quote from: Gorgeous George link ---
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> I’m not sure I follow your logic? They got the pen and scored
from it?
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>
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/47036420
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I was thinking of another game! ;D
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Failed Ref
Date: January 29, 2019, 1:51 am
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Not a Clear dive but lost balance! VAR would have got correct
decision here but sadly not in use.
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Ref Watcher
Date: January 29, 2019, 3:12 am
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> I've seen a lot of people, such as Keith Hackett, suggesting
that if they couldn't have VAR at every game in the fourth round
they should have waited until the fifth round to introduce it
for each tie.
>
> But I don't really see what advantage that would serve - the
likes of Everton would still have been knocked out of the cup in
the fourth round and surely the aim for most supporters is to
win the cup, not to get to the fifth round!
>
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I agree. Not using VAR in some matches because you can't use it
in all of them is a rather contorted piece of logic. We don't
have enough FIFA referees to cover all the fifth round matches.
Using the same logic we wouldn't use any of them until the
quarter finals.
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: January 29, 2019, 7:55 am
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--- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
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> [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=100.msg4514#msg4514
date=1548701462]
> I've seen a lot of people, such as Keith Hackett, suggesting
that if they couldn't have VAR at every game in the fourth round
they should have waited until the fifth round to introduce it
for each tie.
>
> But I don't really see what advantage that would serve - the
likes of Everton would still have been knocked out of the cup in
the fourth round and surely the aim for most supporters is to
win the cup, not to get to the fifth round!
>
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I agree. Not using VAR in some matches because you can't use it
in all of them is a rather contorted piece of logic. We don't
have enough FIFA referees to cover all the fifth round matches.
Using the same logic we wouldn't use any of them until the
quarter finals.
[/quote]
The more I listen to Keith Hackett, the more surprised I am that
he managed an organisaiton such as the PGMO for 5 years - he
seems to change his mind every other week and doesn't offer
solutions which are in any way realistic. Hackett seems to want
a situation where VAR is not introduced until the resources are
in place to cover 32 FA Cup ties on the same weekend with 40
officials already trained to operate the system but believes the
Premier League should have introduced it at the start of this
season!
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: bmb
Date: January 29, 2019, 8:33 am
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Clatts says Andre Marriner got it right, both the ruling out of
the pen (via VAR obviously) & starting with a drop ball.
Well done, VAR. Referee Andre Marriner awards a penalty, despite
it being a perfectly good challenge by defender Ethan Ampadu on
Joey Pelupessy.
Marriner, from his angle, thinks Pelupessy plays the ball first
and so he points to the spot.
However, as we can see from the television replays, it was in
fact a good tackle by Ampadu and therefore not a foul.
This is why VAR is introduced – to prevent these incorrect
calls. As for why a drop ball was awarded rather than a corner,
the ball was still in play when Marriner blew his whistle to
award a penalty.
That means the restart has to be a drop ball. It seems strange,
but those are the rules.
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6638119/Ethan-Ampadus-tackle-Joey-Pelupessy-VAR-introduced.html
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: January 29, 2019, 9:28 am
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
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> Clatts says Andre Marriner got it right, both the ruling out
of the pen (via VAR obviously) & starting with a drop ball.
>
> Well done, VAR. Referee Andre Marriner awards a penalty,
despite it being a perfectly good challenge by defender Ethan
Ampadu on Joey Pelupessy.
> Marriner, from his angle, thinks Pelupessy plays the ball
first and so he points to the spot.
> However, as we can see from the television replays, it was in
fact a good tackle by Ampadu and therefore not a foul.
> This is why VAR is introduced – to prevent these
incorrect calls. As for why a drop ball was awarded rather than
a corner, the ball was still in play when Marriner blew his
whistle to award a penalty.
> That means the restart has to be a drop ball. It seems
strange, but those are the rules.
>
>
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6638119/Ethan-Ampadus-tackle-Joey-Pelupessy-VAR-introduced.html
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Blimey, Andre must have thought that it was a spot on penalty to
react so quickly that he blew before the ball went out of play,
particularly with the speed of the play at that point. Ah well,
you live and learn.
VAR is used to give a correct decision that it was not a
penalty, however, the attacker is then penalised because it
should have been a corner but the referee gives an uncontested
drop ball.
There is something not morally correct about all that,
particularly if the game had been played at Hillsborough,
because it would have been a penalty ----rightly or wrongly and
could have changed the whole game. The referee has the final
decision ----well he used to have! :(
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Re: The VAR thread
DIR By: bmb
Date: January 29, 2019, 11:28 am
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--- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
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>
> VAR is used to give a correct decision that it was not a
penalty, however, the attacker is then penalised because it
should have been a corner but the referee gives an uncontested
drop ball.
> There is something not morally correct about all that,
particularly if the game had been played at Hillsborough,
because it would have been a penalty ----rightly or wrongly and
could have changed the whole game. The referee has the final
decision ----well he used to have! :(
>
>
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That is down to the Law makers & hopefully something they will
reconsider because it does seem unfair.
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