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       #Post#: 2982--------------------------------------------------
       Entertaining reading
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: December 24, 2016, 4:09 pm
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       Ran into Richard Kadrey novels.  First hit "The Everything box",
       then ran into the Sandman Slim series.
       Much fun reading and so close to reality.
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       Re: Entertaining reading
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: December 26, 2016, 9:58 am
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       --- Quote from: rgardner link ---
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       > Ran into Richard Kadrey novels.  First hit "The Everything
       box", then ran into the Sandman Slim series.
       > Much fun reading and so close to reality.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not familiar with those RG, I'm about 60 chapters into Moby
       Dick, what an amazing read it has been so far, really enjoying
       it.
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       Re: Entertaining reading
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: December 27, 2016, 3:35 pm
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       I was being the sarcastic smart ass, that I am, when I said
       close to reality.
       Richard Kadrey draws you into magic/vampires/spirits/angels/gods
       in a very fun smart ass perspective. It's almost like: OK, why
       not?
       #Post#: 2986--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Entertaining reading
   DIR By: biisuto
       Date: January 7, 2017, 5:48 am
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       Hi guys! Long time no nuthin', right?
       I was trolling through a mostly unused email address and found
       something from Ray. A quick back and forth ensued in which he
       mentioned the Kave and so I logged in for a squizz over coffee
       to see how y'all are doing...and now feeling I should say g'day
       while I'm here.
       I've flicked through a few of the more recent threads...some
       intense stuff still gets shared here, huh? I see she's now left,
       but Ness has sure seen a lot, huh?
       But I'm not here to impose my input, neither to lionise nor to
       criticise your content, as I've not been an active participant
       and no longer feel that right...but I do want to share with you
       that I can't help feeling genuine affection for this
       group...after all, we're alumni of the same institution.
       You're of a rare kind of entity: one that the making of a better
       world for all would require more of, not less. And looking
       around, you cannot say that about too many of our fellow
       humans... so, so many of whom the very best service they could
       perform for this world would be to just leave it.
       I know I'm idealistic...and now elitist as well it seems.
       Happy New Year!
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       Re: Entertaining reading
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: January 7, 2017, 3:59 pm
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       Ness,
       You must know that wherever you go, this is status quo:
       "It is a place for absolute dregs of Western civilization, in
       levels of unscrupulousness, attitudes and behaviour."
       Not just Cambodia, it's everywhere to some degree.
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       Re: Entertaining reading
   DIR By: biisuto
       Date: January 8, 2017, 5:37 pm
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       Re: Entertaining reading
   DIR By: biisuto
       Date: January 10, 2017, 9:57 am
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       :o oh man...that is so brutal...
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       Re: Entertaining reading
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: January 10, 2017, 3:52 pm
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       Hafta say that Aleppo/Mosul/and hundreds of other places are,
       also, somewhat brutal.
       And... many have no air conditioning! ::)
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       Re: Entertaining reading
   DIR By: biisuto
       Date: January 10, 2017, 5:36 pm
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       Yep, yep... would have to agree that Aleppo et al trumps
       Sihanoukville for horror...it's really just another kind of
       horror... examples of the different scale of chessboard upon
       which men play out our obscene fantasies of domination.
       #Post#: 2996--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Entertaining reading
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: January 13, 2017, 1:20 pm
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       Greetings all, nice to see your words again as well B, I take a
       bit of umbrage at being called out as a deletist Nessa, I have
       only ever deleted one thing from this forum and that was your
       video of a child being tortured. Yes it happens, that and worse
       but is it something to download and hang onto? Seemingly for you
       it is, why I am not sure but I do not question that your
       reasoning is sound for you. For me, having created this site I
       sense liability and I certainly do not trust any government's
       ability to discern what the intent of having said video posted
       here could be, hell, with the many types of conversation here we
       would probably be viewed as anarchists and nihilists at best, so
       be it, but a child torture aficionado? Well, one has to draw the
       line somewhere and it's on me to draw it.
       As to Cambodia... When Jed was trying to entice me to come over
       (it didn't take much enticement) I was constantly filled with a
       kind of dread about the trip, I interpreted this as "fear of
       annihilation of the ego" but after doing some study I realized
       that I like nice people who try to want good for others and I
       sensed none of that in Cambodia no matter how thrilled Jed
       seemed to be with that type of freedom. Call me soft, no doubt
       living an entire life in a place where people helping others in
       need is the norm and the occasional nasty person an anomaly has
       made me supremely soft and susceptible in many ways, one could
       say I have never been to the "external" jungle.
       Not internally tho, few have plumbed the depths of emotion and
       psyche to come out the other side the way I have, the way I
       sense we have (projection at it's finest). Like Pip I have, in
       horror and wonder, seen God's foot on the treadle but this
       body/mind came back, a washed up ghost among infants it seems
       now. So be it and so be whatever "this" is, all of it. The
       freedom is in the acceptance, the total acceptance is what sets
       one free, not truth, wtf is truth? Total acceptance even while
       acting against entropy is the truth here. Paradox rules this
       existence and egos (being dual) aren't capable of holding
       paradox, the thinner the ego the larger the capacity to hold
       this paradox; "Everyone is forgiven and there was never anything
       to forgive" nothing more. In the face of this known quantity
       here, ALL arguments cease, all questions are naught and any
       discontent with existence, child torture included, is just the
       ego trying to fight it's way out of a paper bag.
       No wonder no one gets it.
       We were never more than monkeys, never mattered any more than
       monkeys matter to one another and yet here, there is still a
       call to kindness. I feel it programmed deep and it feels good to
       respond to that call, I am kind for no other reason than it
       fulfills a programmed need in this body/mind, probably the same
       way being unkind fulfills a programmed need in a "bad" monkey's
       Body/mind...
       "It's all the same fvcking thing man" - Janis Joplin
       I never went to Cambodia, there was never a need, only an ego's
       sense of aggrandizement, of gaining the last piece to the
       puzzle, to finally be enlightened. After I got my passport the
       element that needed to get out of this painful existence, the
       entity that couldn't stand existence anymore, the misshapen
       Quazimodo that clung to it's bell tower existence like it was
       life itself... fell away, disintegrated into thin air like the
       phantom it was. No longer any need for the guru, his paradise,
       his concepts and language, or any other.
       Rarely any need to vomit anymore and yet, there it is,
       semi-digested pizza filling the preceding lines  ;D
       Life goes on seemingly! Traveling a lot this year as flights are
       ridiculously cheap, France in April, Dublin (for U2 Joshua Tree
       tour) in July and Rome in September. The girlfriend and I had
       our 1 year anniversary on New Years, she reads this forum and
       enjoys exploring life and these themes which makes for a
       relationship unlike any I've ever experienced.
       "Do I contradict myself?
       Very well then I contradict myself;
       I am large, I contain multitudes."
       Never has that quote meant more than now. Cheers!
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