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       #Post#: 2709--------------------------------------------------
       bs
   DIR By: j(
       Date: October 15, 2016, 12:39 pm
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       Gently reminded how toxic the “story of me” can be from a
       segregated mind. Dealing with the gf and all of “her stress.” It
       cannot be pried away. Perhaps released. Starting sentences out
       with “what I need is....”  “Why don’t you support me?”   It must
       be scary reaching out to a phantom. A hologram. A ghost. From a
       human #lifethatmatters perspective. Amazing the clinging to ones
       story and the very obvious pain involved and yet the inability
       to let it go. “Its all VERY important”. “I cant just not do
       something!” Do you know what would happen?! “It would all just
       fall apart” Cant wait….  ;D
       I don’t need anything. I am everything and everything is nothing
       at all.
       I'm reminded of a statement made here about love, “love is what
       can you do for me” I concur this is the very immature and egoic
       sense of the word love. It is not LOVE. The Love I have come to
       know permeates everything. It is everything. When one is able to
       see without the biases of I which trap it into a solid, painful,
       one way only perspective and the subsequent mode of being a
       victim in this world. Then maybe one can see that love is all
       there is. It brilliantly shines through when I step out of the
       way.
       I’ve not given her the damndest yet in over 4 years. Not my call
       to make and should her path take her there, it will be
       catastrophic. A melt down for the ages! The free-fall isn't so
       bad, its the leap that really gets to ya. Quite interesting.
       Lessons to be learned, paradoxes to be resolved. Wars yet to be
       waged on the final frontier. The war of self, destined to die on
       the battlefield an epic death. It will be beautiful. “She” just
       doesn't know it yet.
       :-* guys...
       #Post#: 2712--------------------------------------------------
       Re: j(
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: October 15, 2016, 5:00 pm
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       My opinion:
       Be open, expose all.  Encourage her to read damndest.  Why have
       a close relationship with no understanding?
       Until she understands your "care not" position, there will be
       conflict.  Women seem to be genetically prone to worry (care).
       Of course, this only my opinions, and can not be assumed to be a
       proper, or correct path through life.
       So, damn!  Got nothin' here!
       #Post#: 2717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: j(
   DIR By: j(
       Date: October 16, 2016, 12:00 am
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       Ness, Have no plan to give her "jeds book." She is writing her
       own. Jed doesn't own the rights to the process, just wrote about
       his. Look up the word "process."
       Everyone gets it sooner or later. Most have to wait until they
       are on the death bed, staring it in the eye.  Autolysis is a
       natural phenomenon. The byproduct of an illusion trying to hold
       together an illusion.
       Like I said. Out of my hands.
       Besides, she's over her episode. Just requires a little love. A
       little attention. A little physically....all the time ::)
       Ray, Women do seem to worry...alot. Still, I just love them to
       death.
       #Post#: 2724--------------------------------------------------
       Re: j(
   DIR By: j(
       Date: October 16, 2016, 9:52 am
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       --- Quote from: N link ---
       >
       > [quote]The Love I have come to know permeates everything. It
       is everything. When one is able to see without the biases of I
       which trap it into a solid, painful, one way only perspective
       and the subsequent mode of being a victim in this world. Then
       maybe one can see that love is all there is. It brilliantly
       shines through when I step out of the way.
       --- End Quote ---
       There is no 'love', Justin. It's a unicorn. There is no love in
       Cosmos. Look carefully.
       There is a healthy survival instinct which tells each and every
       human that IF they perish - everything perishes. So each human
       takes care of Self and is concerned about Self only.
       [/quote]
       Makes sense. What's its mechanism? What's deeper than the
       survival? Surely we don't merely carry on because we hate it.
       Ive peeled back another layer and found that we are just
       narcissus at the core, staring at ourselves in the mirror. Not
       because we don't like it. We love it. We love our reflection. ;)
       (Even if you are constantly trying to show me my butthole Nessa.
       I mean I've seen it before out of curiosity. I know it's tjere.
       Just don't care to look at it if ya know what I mean)
       #Post#: 2726--------------------------------------------------
       Re: j(
   DIR By: j(
       Date: October 16, 2016, 3:38 pm
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       I've also noticed that we seem to have this strange tendency to
       want to stand out, segregate ourselves, be special. It's a
       strange thing and I've been watching it for a while. It's very
       interesting.
       #Post#: 2727--------------------------------------------------
       Re: j(
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: October 16, 2016, 3:57 pm
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       Thought about getting into this discussion, but I found, that,
       seriously, I don't care.
       I accept and enjoy reports of what goes on, but I am not pulled
       in.
       #Post#: 2729--------------------------------------------------
       Re: j(
   DIR By: j(
       Date: October 16, 2016, 7:22 pm
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       I am aware Frits. Everything done here in a "godlike-manner."
       Thanks for noticing.
       #Post#: 2730--------------------------------------------------
       Re: j(
   DIR By: j(
       Date: October 17, 2016, 12:49 am
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       I forget how dreadfully serious you guys can be around here.
       #Post#: 2733--------------------------------------------------
       Re: j(
   DIR By: j(
       Date: October 17, 2016, 7:43 am
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       --- Quote from: F link ---
       >
       > The only way "out" is by being dreadfully serious, and if
       you're not, don't even bother trying; just forget all about it
       and be a zombie among zombies. Nothing wrong with that, just not
       my cup-a-thee.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not to worry Frits, you will find "a way out," even if it's not
       today. It will have nothing to do with how serious you are or
       not because none of it is serious at all.
       
       But thanks for playing ::)
       #Post#: 2734--------------------------------------------------
       Re: j(
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: October 17, 2016, 10:37 am
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       --- Quote from: j( link ---
       >
       > [quote author=F link=topic=98.msg2731#msg2731 date=1476700777]
       > The only way "out" is by being dreadfully serious, and if
       you're not, don't even bother trying; just forget all about it
       and be a zombie among zombies. Nothing wrong with that, just not
       my cup-a-thee.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not to worry Frits, you will find "a way out," even if it's not
       today. It will have nothing to do with how serious you are or
       not because none of it is serious at all.
       
       But thanks for playing ::)
       [/quote]
       Hahaha... Yes Frits it's deadly serious...to you, at this point.
       To me it's just play although I was serious as a heart attack
       when I was busy being I trying to figure out how not to, now,
       not so much. I enjoyed reading about the Gf Justin, Ive gone a
       different direction with "my" Gf, handed her Damnedest and said
       "sorry, this is what you're dealing with here" she reads whats
       going on in Plato's and we have discussions about the nature of
       things in and outside of our hanging out together.
       It's one moment at a time, she gets it and is ok with that being
       the extent of the commitment I am capable of, it's obviously
       been challenging for her and yet she has the underlying sense
       that this is it, we do well together and it's her bday today....
       Party!
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