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       #Post#: 2590--------------------------------------------------
       Out of the box thinking
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: October 5, 2016, 3:37 pm
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       I set up a meeting with the mechanical engineering group at the
       University of Central Florida. with the intent of vetting
       several ideas I had realized over the years.  10 minutes into
       the meeting, they began an earnest recruitment.  They want me to
       help students think out-of-the-box.
       Quite flattered I am, but I do have a good plan to unscrew their
       minds from the focus they had.  I plan to focus them toward
       understanding that they control their destiny.
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       jumps out.
       #Post#: 2595--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Out of the box thinking
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: October 6, 2016, 3:00 am
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       "I plan to focus them toward understanding that they control
       their destiny."
       That was poorly presented.
       I don't intend to manipulate, rather, just expose them to real
       data which may rattle their scientific foundation. :D
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       Re: Out of the box thinking
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: October 6, 2016, 9:16 am
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       --- Quote from: N link ---
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       >
       > Do it. Or not. I express personal preference, and in my
       current state of being no Mind is allowed to directly influence
       mine. But it took a lot of influencing from others' Minds and my
       subsequent rejection of them all - to arrive at this barren
       ground.
       >
       > No other Minds exist  :)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is where we arrive at the same place Nessa but the
       expression of what that place looks like is quite different, for
       you the end of any reliance on another's mind is "Barren ground"
       over here it's like I've finally stumbled into my own garden
       (thats been here all along) after stealing fruit and vegetables
       from other's gardens most of my life.
       Self reliance doesn't feel like barren ground over here...
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       Re: Out of the box thinking
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: October 6, 2016, 10:05 am
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       Yeah, thats what I meant by "stealing", that to engage others I
       had to pretend or mold myself into their ways and desires of
       being because my own weren't appreciated or available, to others
       or myself (blocked by shame). When I did begin cultivating "my"
       garden it gained me acceptance and praise in a new theater but
       still just an actor on stage playing a role and then that role
       became what entrapped me on the stage, "how can the play go on
       if I don't play the title role?"
       I was stealing from myself. Then, one fine day there was no
       longer a self to steal from.
       So now I respond to the stimuli and deal with the repercussions
       of meddling in humanity to the extent that I do, what I have
       noticed is that humans are constantly trying to keep me engaged,
       to validate their experience I'd guess...
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