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#Post#: 2399--------------------------------------------------
Fan a tics
DIR By: rgardner
Date: September 12, 2016, 3:22 pm
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I'd like to start a new thread on a subject I believe will
threaten our comfort.
Fantatics!
I offer a cute quote: "A fan is only "a tic" from fanatic".
Do you realize that a patriot is a fanatic? (Recent events in
the US exhibit this fanaticism - kneeling for our song)
Have you noticed that sports fans are fanatics?
Fashion is run and pushed by fanatics.
I just want to identify and out the fanaticism in the world.
Almost forgot religion and politics.
It's hard to get your hands around all the belief systems that
bleed into every human, but I'd like to identify any beliefs
that produce discordant humans.
#Post#: 2403--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fan a tics
DIR By: rgardner
Date: September 13, 2016, 3:06 pm
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Not all of us identified and shred belief by belief.
When my liberation from BS happened, it was full slate. So,
personally I was not aware of the individual beliefs that
defined the former me.
Afterward, didn't have the slightest care (here we go again with
the care crap ::)) for anything or anyone.
It's only been lately that I have begun to delve into how humans
got into the current state of society (which I find deplorable
and grossly flawed).
Fanaticism is an extreme form of care that divides humans, and I
see it as the culprit that has produced your current state.
So, I'm compiling and trying to identify beliefs that can lead
to fanaticism. Just want to understand.
Maybe nothing to encapsulate. But, as the alien that I am,
always looking for new ways to penetrate human's and their
psyche,
#Post#: 2406--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fan a tics
DIR By: rgardner
Date: September 16, 2016, 4:18 am
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@Nessa-
Your assessment aligns with mine.
As far as bliss, I've already pointed out that bliss is a memory
from a 36 year old experience.
Content is the most accurate description of my present. 8)
But, I do wonder what a world of awakened humans would be like.
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Re: Fan a tics
DIR By: rgardner
Date: September 16, 2016, 3:48 pm
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@Nessa
Can't go there.
I flamed on someone during a tequila sunrise, and Jed banned me.
Would like to get into their IGF banter again, but I am cursed.
Oh, well....
Who cares ???
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Re: Fan a tics
DIR By: rgardner
Date: September 16, 2016, 4:29 pm
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BTW,
In my mind, evil is not a given. It is developed.
Just my opinion, as incredible as it may be. :D
#Post#: 2412--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fan a tics
DIR By: Plato
Date: September 17, 2016, 9:33 am
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--- Quote from: N link ---
>
> We need to remember that all forms of human activity have been
and are conducted by individual humans who were subject to abuse
and disownership. No exception. The dis-ownership of Self as a
form of 'organised crime' against every baby has been taking
place for hundreds of generations.
>
> It took you a lifetime, gentlemen, to come back to the state
of Selfhood which honours the real you, its desires, wishes,
likes and dislikes, its true essence. While all is perishable
and exists in the sphere of mental individuation, all is YOU
nevertheless.
>
> Sports gives an outlet to inherent human aggression, and it
promotes subordination to the command of the Hive Mind. It is
barbaric and unjust in any organised, professional way.
>
> Fashion is a way of distracting human Mind from the Inner by
glorifying the insignificant shell of a body and its adornments.
>
> Politics are a dirty business because it is a forced deal of a
middleman who stands between the two nothings.
>
> Religion is crime against Intelligence which keeps human
Consciousness at the level of a scared animal, caged and unable
to think for itself.
>
> Fanaticism cannot perceive the eternal truth of our 'blink of
an eye' existence and the fact that our unbirth will wipe out
the world.
>
> So, Ray.... deep down you are not as cheerful as it looks on
the surface. This is what I find unacceptable: people who talk
about 'bliss' are - abused beings, victims of crime against
humanity (literally), but they don't see it. You don't see it.
Jed does not see it. Steve does not see it. But to break truly
free from the clutches of own genetics one has to be absolutely
CLEAR on the provenance of own path and what exactly pushed one
to start looking.
>
> If you people think All is Bliss - you have taken the pill of
Oblibion. Which is a lie.
>
--- End Quote ---
This is also my experience, except for your calling out of the
bliss ninnies, I never talk about being in bliss, nothing in my
daily experience feels like bliss, not even remotely and while I
remember bliss from G/C moments, those moments seem as foreign
as another existence.
What is experienced here is Equanimity, everything feels the
same, kinda boring actually if it all wasn't so beautiful, the
problem is contrast, I have none, nothing feels better or worse
than another thing, for example, I just watched my girlfriend
move us to 3 different hotel rooms to get the one that felt
right to her, I was fine in any one of them, all gave sensory
experience and that's all I need, no matter the type of
experience. I don't expect anyone to understand this, I wouldn't
have before the shift either.
#Post#: 2413--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fan a tics
DIR By: j(
Date: September 17, 2016, 10:56 am
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Not sure what the conversation is here. I'm having less and less
fun chopping the verbiage these days. Besides I've never really
deciphered anything useful from asking why people are the way
they are. The only obvious answer to that is, because. ::)
As it pertains to "bliss" just another word.
When one finds what the word is pointing to they may just find
themselves"playing sports" or "being a politician" or...posting
at platos, whatever. In that place of being in total alignment
with self the preferences are the only thing. None of you are an
exception. What I see is what I prefer. What I prefer is what I
see. Every time. Obviously. This rings true even in a particular
brand of doing "not doing." Even if the awareness isn't quite
there. From here I'm exactly where I want to be, doing exactly
what i want to do and experiencing exactly what I want to
experience.
Are you totally tuned into that or not. Is it a problem? Are
there some sort of judgement on you or the rest of society for
simply being? Are you doing methods of autolysis because you've
created a perception of an imperfect thing? An imperfect world?
Is the problem"out there" That's what needs to be seen through.
That's the lie.
Here theres no questions about why things are the way they are.
Whether how I am is acceptable to the rest of the world or if
the rest of the world meets my approval. This thing does what it
does until it doesn't. I'm totally on board with that. Call it
bliss if you must.
#Post#: 2414--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fan a tics
DIR By: j(
Date: September 17, 2016, 11:55 am
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Every one is searching for something. The conundrum is that it's
so close that most people miss it.
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Re: Fan a tics
DIR By: rgardner
Date: September 17, 2016, 3:39 pm
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Justin,
Not searching for anything. I think Steve and I are at similar
states.
@Steve
Do you still feel competitive? I don't. Just enjoy each swing
(tennis), ..care not about score. How
'bout your golf?
#Post#: 2416--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fan a tics
DIR By: j(
Date: September 17, 2016, 4:20 pm
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Hmm. "Not searching for anything" followed by a question.
It's a strange mechanism. Keeps on doing its thing even when I'm
convinced it's not.
I just breathe it in and out.
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