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       New Forum
   DIR By: F
       Date: August 26, 2016, 5:44 pm
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       Running the risk of being scoffed, deleted, banned or whatever,
       I'd like to let anyone who's interested know that I started a
       Forum in order to better assist the folks that visit my
       website... but any of you lurkers are welcome to. The only rule
       is: Daddy knows best!
       Anyway, my website is:
  HTML http://www.autolyse.nl
  HTML http://www.autolyse.nl
       And the Forum's address is:
  HTML http://autolyse.createaforum.com
  HTML http://autolyse.createaforum.com
       Join or not, have fun or not, wake up or not, be or not... no
       business of me. ;D
       x, Frits.
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       Re: New Forum
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: August 27, 2016, 5:41 pm
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       I  scoff, delete, whatever.  Can't ban you.  But I have never
       read any post of yours that was helpful in any way.  You are a
       self proclaimed non-existent.  [b]Assume the state of
       non-existence.[/b]
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       Re: New Forum
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: August 27, 2016, 6:43 pm
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       Let's see.... :o
       You decide who is awake.... Judgemental? :o
       Have to hang the label!
       Hateful?  You have a lot of erroneous nerve!
       You have constantly pestered my seriously intended posts with
       your non-existent BS.  Who is the hater?
       Could it be you, x, Frits?  :o
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       Re: New Forum
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: August 27, 2016, 11:33 pm
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       ;D
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       Re: New Forum
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: September 27, 2016, 10:24 am
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       Quote from: peacemaker on September 23, 2016, 02:32:50 pm
       Perceptions are real, I is not.
       Perceptions are real, thoughts are real, even that "I" is real
       and every illusion that this "I" has and experiences is real...
       everything you encounter on planet earth and in the universe is
       real, but they are all not true.
       Jed McKenna
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       Re: Jed Rant.. more on the I Am.
       « Reply #32 on: Today at 10:01:24 am »
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       O.K. Frits, real but not true... I am very careful what I call
       real because, in Truth, I have no standard for real. I guess
       it's a (or was a) bit of a cop-out. I call things illusions and
       I call my experience hallucinations... years ago I adopted that
       approach because I wanted to be more careful about believing
       things, at the time it was a sorta mechanism to keep me on the
       straight and narrow, yeh, sure...
       One day, while doing my S/A, I go it!!! at a cellular level...
       this is all not-real and we are hallucinating everything,
       including our selves, into an apparent/illusory being and
       beingness. My b.s. verbiage had become my reality, perhaps
       better expressed as my non-reality. The wonder and freedom of
       not being anything or anyone was beyond words. All there is is
       Truth, what I call in the Series, ''infinite capacity for all
       that is''. Even illusion needs somewhere to appear to be, an
       illusion requiring an illusory context, in order to maintain
       further illusion and then, all combined... it appears in The
       Infinite Truth as the world we currently appear to inhabit.
       There is nothing but Truth, and I mean NOTHING... but much
       appears to be, for your entertainment. It is staggeringly
       simple, boundlessly without limits, sights beyond vision,
       hearing beyond sound, sensing beyond any feeling, and everyone
       wants to capture it, control it, reduce it to their human
       experience... and then b i t c h because it doesn't seem to fit
       their expectations. Your human experience fits within Truth, but
       you can be very sure that Truth does not fit within your human
       experience. Un-explainable, un-imaginable, un-foreseeable,
       un-everything... it just ''is''.
       Thank you Frits, you always seem to provoke the best in me (or,
       I hallucinate so) and I love you for it.
       Cheers, Jed.
       « Last Edit: Today at 10:03:54 am by Jed McKenna »
       Frits Provokes Jed into a clarification and gets a pat on the
       back and a big smooch from Jed!!! That must have felt good eh
       Frits? I remember basking in Jed's approval and I remember Nessa
       being a tad jealous  ;D Those were the days eh Nessa? Back when
       we hung out at IGF needing to clarify things for sleepier
       seekers, looking for the best way to let them know they had it
       wrong and "I" had it right and such a bonus if Jed dropped his
       two cents on top of mine... The good old days in the dual... ;)
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       Re: New Forum
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: September 27, 2016, 2:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: F link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Plato link=topic=78.msg2538#msg2538
       date=1474989871]
       > Frits Provokes Jed into a clarification and gets a pat on the
       back and a big smooch from Jed!!! That must have felt good eh
       Frits?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No sorry... it does nothing for "me" nor means anything.
       [/quote]
       Good answer, I liked your clarification Frits, and I know you
       don't care about my opinion either but some humans continually
       seem to try to express whats going on, (why else are we on the
       forum?) it does feel good when someone acknowledges that they
       relate to an expression I make. It's that sharing of similar
       experience that has value, does it validate the experience?
       Nope, that capacity to get validated is gone, like when people
       extoll me for my paintings, nothing sticks but the fact that I
       can pay the light bill, thanks.
       like Nessa said:
       --- Quote from: N link ---
       >
       >
       > Also... I do not need validation from anyone, but Self. I
       simply lost doubt.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 2543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Forum
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: September 27, 2016, 2:44 pm
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       Ok Frits, busted! I sense a little "basking" in this post, I
       know because this is exactly what I used to do and I always got
       the same message from Jed when I did ;D ;D ;D
       Frits
       Full Member
       Re: Jed Rant.. more on the I Am.
       « Reply #34 on: Today at 11:58:43 am »
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       My pleasure, Jed.
       But in the end it's only words trying to point at the
       unspeakable. Of course only Truth IS and everything else IS NOT,
       but everything appears to be (to me it apparently appears to be,
       anyway) and so we might as well pretend, or hallucinate (as you
       put it), it is real... while knowing it's not true or Truth.
       If you think about it, it's a huge brainfvck and very funny...
       better not to think about it.
       Jed McKenna
       Administrator
       Re: Jed Rant.. more on the I Am.
       « Reply #35 on: Today at 12:07:34 pm »
       Quote
       Got it...
       Love ya, Jed.
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       Re: New Forum
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: September 27, 2016, 4:23 pm
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       EGOs? :D
       #Post#: 2549--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Forum
   DIR By: rgardner
       Date: September 27, 2016, 4:54 pm
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       Of course!, you do not exist, F,  and I am just dealing with
       some people that believe dead people need to be idolized.   ???
       ???
       #Post#: 2551--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Forum
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: September 27, 2016, 5:04 pm
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       I'm just playing with you Frits, just messing around seeing if I
       could get a rise out of you, I've actually appreciated your
       expressions in here since you left, crisp, technical and without
       all the acrimony and judgement. Well done.
       Like Nessa doing her drama bit I'm just jerking your chain a
       bit, my bad, sometimes it's just fun to poke the bear and see
       what he does, you've done nothing, good on ya, the dancing bear
       has lost the desire to dance and thats a good thing I'd guess
       ;)
       Keep driving RG, nothing to see here, no ego crash, just a
       little bit o silliness  ;D
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