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I don't care
DIR By: rgardner
Date: July 24, 2016, 4:13 pm
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Whomever,
Finally got around to Jed's Theory of Everything.
Been there, done that! Can't kick that can down the road much
more. And Jed continues to assert he's an onliness, which I
refute 100 per cent. We know he's wrong, at least I understand
truth, and most of you do as well. Doesn't that make us an
enlightened group of untruth-unrealization freaks just like Jed?
But wait ... a new book?
Haven't even checked to see what it's about. Could it be about
truth? ..and how we can not see and experience it, while we
actually do?
Don't get me wrong, I owe a great deal to Jed for providing
explanation to my life experiences, but he does seem to go
on...and on...and on. With only one subject... truth. And the
proclamation that he is alone in possession of truth.
I don't think anyone that experiences truth can truly care in
this dreamstate.
If someone else knowing truth believes we can care, let me know,
and we can debate it.
My 27.5 cents!
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Re: I don't care
DIR By: j(
Date: July 24, 2016, 11:14 pm
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Its all very boring reading or hearing about someone's
perceptions and yet in the same breath claiming to not exist.
I've not even looked into a new Jed book although I've heard
there is one. I've got better stuff to do in this life. Lots of
sex comes to mind ;)
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Re: I don't care
DIR By: rgardner
Date: July 25, 2016, 3:40 pm
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I have to confess that I gave "biisuto" (AKA Mike Bazely) a set
of tools to produce the god consciousness experience back in
April. Never heard anything back from email, twitter, or here.
I hope that he is OK, but I know how powerful the god
consciousness experience can be.
Has anyone heard from him since April?"
Just curious, but I don't care! ;D
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Re: I don't care
DIR By: Plato
Date: July 26, 2016, 1:43 pm
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I really enjoyed Jeds new book, it's a kinder, gentler, older,
wiser and dumber Jed it seems but who cares? Right? isn't that
the right answer? Haha, all answers are just wind blowing leaves
around as are the questions they are spawned by and yet, the
wind still blows doesn't it. It's easy to get mesmerized by the
guru that knows more than you and see's through others beliefs
and bullshit, Ive been mesmerized by a few while searching,
until I wasn't...
It's just as easy to see through those tricks of the trade once
you've done the work yourself, it seems like magic until you
step behind the curtain of self and see through the veils that
simultaneously created and blinded you in the first place.
Thats the point when you can honestly kill the buddha and get
back to the experience of what is...
Nice to see Jed's rotting head in the rear view mirror and also
nice to read an entertaining book dealing with the only issue I
find all that interesting anymore... Nice post RG!
Cheers! ;D
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Re: I don't care
DIR By: j(
Date: July 28, 2016, 7:43 am
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Thought I'd check out jeds "dreamstate" for sh*ts and giggles.
About 4 or 5 chapters in I've determined that the only good
thing about this book is that it serves as a good indicator of
where I was in my limited belief system. See Jed acknowledges
that all beliefs are bullshit*t and yet he still carries around
beliefs such as "I'm all alone on a dead planet" can't see why.
If it's all made up jeddy then make up something good! What's
stopping you? That none of its true? "Nothing in the dreamstate
is true" so who **** cares.
" there's really nothing left for me to do but play with Maya
the goddess of Illusion not the dog which she is quick to remind
me is all I've ever really done all my clever idea play has kept
me amused but I am still sitting on a dead planet in the middle
of nowhere and Maya take your pick is my only friend I'm not
unique in this regard it's the same for everyone the only
difference is whether or not you know it"
He reminds me of a kid in the sand box who refuses to play with
his toys because they aren't "real" fire trucks and such. He
would like to have you believe that you shouldn't play with them
either. Too bad he's still stuck in the sandbox as the rest of
us but his is some how better lol. Oh well. If nothing else i
sure appreciate seeing this old paradigm active in others. All I
needed to do was decide to break free from it. Play with your
toys they are all you've got and let those who want to sit in
timeout because it's somehow advanced do just that. My planet is
all but "dead" and "lonely" and "boring" Jed. Sorry your reality
seems to be a bit sadder...:D
Ps I think it's funny that he says he lives in the Appalachians.
Keep heading east nessa you're getting closer. Maybe stop and
tell that fraud in Cambodia I said what's up
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Re: I don't care
DIR By: Plato
Date: July 28, 2016, 12:32 pm
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--- Quote from: N link ---
>
> Dear Justin, I think Steve would be a better bet to pass on
your message.
>
--- End Quote ---
"I really enjoyed Jeds new book, it's a kinder, gentler, older,
wiser and dumber Jed" I enjoy the way Jed writes, and he's just
a dude who writes. I am no longer under any delusion that he is
anything more than just a guy with a computer, I was at one time
under the delusion that Jed was "a real enlightened person that
I wanted/needed to meet and learn from". That delusion was wiped
away at the same moment questions ceased, Jed helped me get to
that point, the end of "me", in a relatively short period of
time, after spending 20 plus years wandering in the desert of
belief and faith. For that I will always be grateful.
What differentiates Jed (the "whatever in Cambodia" personage)
from the other book writers... Mooji, Adya, Kornfield, Katie,
Tolle and a couple hundred more, is the simple fact that he
isn't (at least isn't as much as them). His message is crisp,
yes the dude's got an ego but as far as I'm concerned you don't
do s hit on this planet without an ego, you certainly don't
write a f ucking book without it. He's an as shole and that
resonated with whatever the f uck was running the show over
here. Period. Most people seem to want a softer touch, a mooji
or an Adya who softly tells them it's all ok, but that shi t
didn't fly here, while Jed's message took wing through this meat
suit.
Jed's message "Happy to see you come, happier to see you go"
resonates here as well, "I'm" gone... Jed's new book was
entertaining thats all, when there's no longer any searching, no
longer any judging of another's life/path/message, it's all
entertainment, thats all folks.
"Nice to see Jed's rotting head in the rear view mirror"
Killing the Buddha isn't real because the Buddha was never the
Buddha, only a delusion to be seen thru and once seen through it
vaporizes. Jed is a much easier delusion to see through than
these guru's with physical bodies, a Tolle/Katie/Adya/Mooji...
He was and is, an apparition, a non entity, that's his genius as
a guru, much easier to see through an apparition than one of
these other ego's in meat suits who collect followers like bees
collect pollen.
I'll take Jed any day over that crap and then he'll disappear,
like he did, because he helped me see there's no one home to
hold his pedestal anymore. No one here to hold an apparent
other, higher than the awareness here.
"Welcome home" Jed said in one of his last messages to me, it
was the best welcoming party by a ghost ever and the graduation
diploma I had once so longed for but now no longer needed.
Probably why he said it, it was important to know1. ;D
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Re: I don't care
DIR By: Plato
Date: July 28, 2016, 3:12 pm
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--- Quote from: N link ---
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> I won't read the new book.
>
> Steve, the above is bullshit, because you've written it.
>
> To the title of this thread.... you ALL care, freaks. Corpses
don't care.
>
> And... expat life in Cambodia is the epitome of hedonism.
Ponder that.
> :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
<============= THAT, this... is what a human is.
>
--- End Quote ---
Look! ^^^^^^^ Nessa has come out of the grave! Judging anyone
who opens their mouth, corpses don't/can't judge... WTF!? It's a
miracle! A corpse raised itself from the grave and has passed
judgement on all! Good lord whats next? President Trump?
President Hillary? The whole thing is a miracle is it not? That
corpse must care an awful lot to make such an effort!
Entertaining as hell to watch a corpse weave it's lies and pass
it's nonexistent judgements on all, thanks Nessa! Pondering....
Pondering.... Pondering... Oh, wait a moment, Pondering is a
challenge when nothing arises to ponder... hmm, I must be dead.
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Re: I don't care
DIR By: rgardner
Date: July 28, 2016, 5:29 pm
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I can't believe how dead I am! A veritable corpse.. and loving
my death!
But, welcome your interaction, Nessa, Love! (Like I know what
that means!)
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Re: I don't care
DIR By: j(
Date: July 28, 2016, 7:00 pm
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Like my old man used to say " there is nothing like a well timed
jab" ;D But that's exactly what makes me fond of this group, it
seems, we know that the other bleeds, even if we dont know it
ourselves. My rant wasn't necessarily directed at anyone, even
if apparently it did wake the dead. I was just simply getting it
out of my system.
The buddha has been dead for some time now. Ive been forming my
own opinions, creating my own reality for a while. Yes I know
that I am GOD 'here'. The creator of 'this' world. (Is that
egoic?) **** off with that nonsense. I am that thought . I am
that feeling. I am that emotion, and that and that and that. It
reflects to me as such. I see the colors I choose to paint with,
EVERY time. Pure empowerment is what Ive taken away from this
journey. Knowing I am ALL of it, unless I am not...
But wait, its not permanent? Im not stuck in a lifeless dead
world as jed describes. I have the free agency to pick and
choose when I engage? When I want to play and when I want it to
let it all sink into no-thing ? That's right. That is being
awake. That is true realization and thats what I see lacking in
Jeds writing or any of your posts.. The freedom of movement,
choice and to follow whatever I want in each given moment sans a
care in the world what anybody else thinks about it. Free
agency. THAT is what I am. Uninhibited.
There is no striving here. There is no want or need to be in a
certain state. There is a being, be-ing. I love it and
apparently am loving it to death right now.
Thanks for sharing Nessa. I thought that maybe you would have
brought back a little more after a long hiatus. We just share
here. The judgements have fallen away for the most part or at
least its no longer taken personally. "I know that my hand could
pass right through them, but I like them too much"
Ive often thought about how these conversations would go in
"real time" but Im too sexy to hang out with you guys anyways,
so Ill just be left to ponder :-*
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Re: I don't care
DIR By: Plato
Date: July 28, 2016, 9:07 pm
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This is the place where we tend to see things differently Just,
the free will thing, you live in what to me is a fantasy of free
will and good on ya mate. I used to live there too and would
have sworn on the bible that "I" had the free will to do
anything I chose and utilized that free will anytime I decided
to, seemed like just the simple fact of reality to me....
Until... "me" unraveled before my eyes and I saw that every
decision I had ever made was nothing but a conglomeration of
programming that "I" had nothing to do with. For example, the
vitriol or love that I spew in this arena, I am fully aware has
nothing to do with a choice I make to be nice or mean, it is
actually just a program that has been in place from birth and
has been reinforced or rebuilt and refined to get me what I
want, usually by my accounting, acceptance and appreciation or
if vitriolic I get a sense of self righteousness and a release
of anger... "ooh, didn't that feel good putting that ass in his
place!?"
Anything posted here by anyone (in my estimation) is nothing but
the result of their programming, period. This is why I take
nothing seriously, EVER. Nothing I say nor anyone else. Frits is
the way he is because of his programming, not because he's nut's
or sane or enlightened or not... Just a fu cking robot spewing
his guts out about something he thinks he knows or has an
epiphany about. Thats all.
It has nothing to do with choice or the "free will to be" unless
you think that abiding by years and years of programming is a
choice? The Perennial Wisdom or The Understanding is simply
this; The knowledge that there is no free will and that
everything anyone says or does is predetermined by their
programming. Once you understand this intrinsically, by doing
the math, i.e.. seeing through your own robotic nature and
choices and realizing none of it is a "you" or real or truth,
boom, done.
Nothing means anything anymore, Nessa's opinions on freaks mean
nothing, Ray's idea's about how to save the planet mean nothing,
your belief in your free will means nothing, my pontificating
about it all means nothing, just entertainment, thats it. Whats
left? A wise fool striding merrily off a cliff, as Jed surmised
long ago...
I post here the moment that this delusion of free will began to
unravel at IGF, the beginning of the end, you will probably
notice this was a very rare moment, I was actually typing as the
awareness was taking place, this doesn't happen often, usually
we have the epiphany and then we go massage the experience into
a nice 250 word message for Jed, not here, this was the real
deal.... I will say that I am no longer as governed as I once
was, there is more freedom in the system than there once was but
I am no rube, that programming runs so deep that I believe I
will be deprogramming the rest of my life, we will see... ;D
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Re: Done
« Reply #120 on: December 15, 2014, 08:46:11 am »
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So, I'm basically completely consumed here, every waking moment.
I've finally come to the understanding that my unity
consciousness episodes, which don't deserve to be ruined with
words, are just not a part of this game, ouch, I have to say
that this is a very painful realization and and when chased
further that pain comes from an old frienemy, the desire for
specialness.
So now, I look around and it seems everything I am is just this;
a byproduct of the need to be special. How can it all be
nothing? Really, how can everything, EVERYTHING be nothing...
What, what are these tears? nothing as well? why this emotion,
what is feeling it? is this just more ego feeling sorry for it's
stupid self? wtf this is so..... **** me.
Tears keep falling, I have a hard time thinking to do but
thoughts flood. first I thought I was the fool, the jester on
stage trying to please, dancing so hard trying to, what? prove
I’m not a fraud? prove I am something, someone? Then I realized
no, I’m the chained dancing bear, no choice, Specialness holds
my chain and whips me to dance. And then, no, it’s darker, much
darker, I’m the Gimp, all sensory flesh covered in leather,
chained and curled in a fetal position in a small box in
someone’s basement, who’s basement? My basement, are you ****
kidding me? MY Basement!? WTF! I’ve been doing this to myself?
Masochistic douche how does this compute, this does not compute,
**** this **** that **** **** **** **** **** ****…. How can
every goddam thing I’ve ever done come from agaoddam need and
not from a me, how can everything created from existence here be
nothing but a byproduct of a twisted need built from infancy. my
kids my work my play my existence, every part has an oily ooze a
gal that taints and covers and infuses every part there is no me
no honesty no truth no nothing why then? why then why then why?
**** drama queen even this all this wtf jed wtf? theres no way
back from here, I have too much in the **** pot to fold but even
this thiese goddamned fingers punching this stupid **** keyboard
and spewing this stupid **** garbage into this stupid **** sewer
that leads all the way down to nothing. right where it began
what is the point? **** this.
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