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#Post#: 1152--------------------------------------------------
Severing my remaining attachments
DIR By: Justin
Date: September 27, 2015, 5:07 pm
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Short and to the point.
As you guys know, if there is a you guys, I have never seen
having an identity as "a problem." I tried to find and destroy
the "ego" early on as part of the attain enlightenment carrot
that was being dangled out there.
Now, however, I have become self realized. I know now that there
never was any "real lack." I never was not what I had set out to
achieve.
There is however one last remaining sticky point in my journey.
The attachments. The illusion of connection and of sharing. It
has to go and I have to let it. I've said goodbye maybe over 10
times here. That is my struggle on display. This time I really
mean it. There is no reason to grow stagnant and continue with
the illusion of sharing. Especially concerning this.
I wish you all my best moving forward.
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Re: Severing my remaining attachments
DIR By: Nessa
Date: September 29, 2015, 1:26 am
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You aren't doing a very good job out of 'severing', Justin.
People never change. No body has EVER changed.
Just wait for a few months and see. It'll be quite a revelation.
Then you won't have a need to kill anything, including own
atachments.
Just enjoy them.. or not.
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Re: Severing my remaining attachments
DIR By: Justin
Date: September 29, 2015, 1:49 pm
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Interesting nessa. Look and see what I wrote at jeds less than
an hour before you wrote this.
Yes attachments are an illusion as is this entire game of
becoming/unbecoming. Perhaps the reason I drove Steve crazy is
because the only thing consistent about me is my inconsistency.
I can do anything including severing attachments but it is all
in an illusory context so the "need" is not there. I create
intellectual labyrinths for the fun of it. May as well do
whatever you want eh, unless of course you don't. :p
#Post#: 1156--------------------------------------------------
Re: Severing my remaining attachments
DIR By: Plato
Date: September 29, 2015, 8:43 pm
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--- Quote from: Justin link ---
>
>
> Now, however, I have become self realized. I know now that
there never was any "real lack." I never was not what I had set
out to achieve.
>
> There is however one last remaining sticky point in my
journey. The attachments. The illusion of connection and of
sharing. It has to go and I have to let it. I've said goodbye
maybe over 10 times here. That is my struggle on display. This
time I really mean it. There is no reason to grow stagnant and
continue with the illusion of sharing. Especially concerning
this.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Just an observation, when the melt down of "I" happened here,
which was different than "unity consciousness" and different
from "awakening" and different from "releasing the tiller", when
it happened here all the attachments started dropping like flies
without an "I" having to let anything go.
It was the first time I fully understood the part in damnedest
when Jed is talking to the Buddhist guy who is struggling with
attachments and Jed says " get T/Red and you will have
non-attachment by the truckload" There is no "trying" to
non-attach, thats like chain smoking because Nisargadatta did
it... Relax, if you come back here you do, if you don't, you
don't and for sure you won't need to tell us one way or the
other. We Love you Justin, just the way you are, here or not,
won't change a thing... :-*
#Post#: 1157--------------------------------------------------
Re: Severing my remaining attachments
DIR By: Justin
Date: September 29, 2015, 9:19 pm
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Well thanks for the love Steve and like wise.
I hear ya on the above. Like I told nessa, I get that the whole
thing is an illusion. Cant sever an attachment when there was
nothing to jold in the first place. The becoming/unbecoming. I
pretend to have made strides and really at times feel like I
have. But at our/my deepest level have never gone anywhere.
Just being is easy. I learned sitting long ago. I enjoy creating
enlightenment/self realization games for entertainment. This one
seems to have been played out though. If I don't make things up
about becoming or unbecoming enlightened then I guess it will be
up to you guys. I don't see that happening at this point which
is fine. End of the road maybe. That's ok too. Either way it is
what it is.
✌
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Re: Severing my remaining attachments
DIR By: Frits
Date: October 1, 2015, 10:48 am
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Isn't the severing of attachments just another attachment?
Yeah, I think it is...
A truly [.....] (fill in the blank with your favorite "that's
not it"-word like "enlightened" or "self realized" or "truth
realized" or "freed" or "awakened") person needs not to sever
anything, because he's... um... well... Because!
#Post#: 1160--------------------------------------------------
Re: Severing my remaining attachments
DIR By: Justin
Date: October 1, 2015, 9:44 pm
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Nope you guys are right. No one "needs" to do anything. Unless
they believe they do. They just do as part of their experience.
You got me. I am definitely not "t/r". I haven't died, been
awakened enlightened or anything. I'm just here having an
experience and putting labels on it to pretend that I know
what's going on. I have no clue who I am. I cant be pinned down.
I don't pretend to be in a static state. I'm like two mirrors
pointing at each other. Potential in all directions. Infinite
and expansive potential for anything.
I'm giving this thing up. There is way more to my experience
than this. I'm so done its as if I never started. No problem or
worries in sight. Bye bye now. :)
#Post#: 1161--------------------------------------------------
Re: Severing my remaining attachments
DIR By: Frits
Date: October 2, 2015, 1:30 am
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Hahaha, okay, we'll see you in a few months. :D
#Post#: 1162--------------------------------------------------
Re: Severing my remaining attachments
DIR By: Nessa
Date: October 2, 2015, 2:38 am
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Justin, you are aware more than most. It's just that T/R doesn't
come from positive affirmations and feeling 'good''. Those, and
detachment and Alone-ness and psychological invincibility are
truly the side effects of it, come áfter', attained without
effort. It just happens.
It comes from a total demolition, and a total demolition comes
when one is completely fucked up, through agony and pain and
dropping into own Death. It's not a joke, and not a walk in the
park. Look out there... people live as if they are immortal..
They haven't touched Eternity which destroys ALL.
Live your life in the way it feels to you, and one day it will -
live you. It will 'kill' you, and then you will truly come into
Life. There will be no need to thrive or try or attempt.. all
are illusory Mind games. Futile.
Love,
Nessa
#Post#: 1164--------------------------------------------------
Re: Severing my remaining attachments
DIR By: Plato
Date: October 2, 2015, 11:26 am
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Hear hear Ness.
Words are crap but the place they spring from can be hinted at
through the intention they are launched from. They can hint at
awareness and all the bullish*t that obscures it.
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