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Re: Exulansis
DIR By: Nessa
Date: August 24, 2015, 1:15 am
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Thank you, Justin, it was really touching.
The mysticism is inherent to my nature, but really.. all of it
is very simple, just that the language fails to convey the feel.
Here....
You will see soon that you are heading the same way as Jed
did... and I did.. and my Nemesis did... you will become the
vampire. Your inner world will be clean, empty and still,
nothing from within YOU would be able to fill that. Your Seeing
will make life pretty boring and devoid of fun.
And so you will turn to others. Their dramas, their little tears
and agonies, their triumphs and failures - will be your choice
of entertainment. You will consume those as daily food, and it
will be endlessly fascinating.
You will take the energy of others.
You will also fill your world with - senses. Running, eating,
hiking, swimming, painting, cycling, fucking, watching the
sunset, observing birds in flight, mosquito bites, physical
pain, smoking, getting drunk, feeling the hug... all those will
become more important than anything 'mental'. As Jed said,
there's more Truth in chocolate and sex than we realise.
I've lived with Memento Mori since I was eight. And the choice,
for me, was to stay or to go. And I'm a coward to leave, and too
curious to just check out. I wanna know what happens next, and
where the Knowing can take me, how far this Mind can go in its
seeing, in its Depth.
We may yet meet in real life. It will be very ordinary, a bunch
of humans, like you meet every day in the street out there, no
supernatural powers, a bit weathered and unteethered.. just with
more Vision and Wisdom.
Nothing else to it. Truth is very ordinary, simple and not that
exciting.
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Re: Exulansis
DIR By: rgardner
Date: August 24, 2015, 3:23 am
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--- Quote from: Nessa link ---
>
> You will see soon that you are heading the same way as Jed
did... and I did.. and my Nemesis did... you will become the
vampire. Your inner world will be clean, empty and still,
nothing from within YOU would be able to fill that. Your Seeing
will make life pretty boring and devoid of fun.
> ...
>
> Nothing else to it. Truth is very ordinary, simple and not
that exciting.
>
--- End Quote ---
Nessa - I think you will find there is another state further
than that unexciting vampire state. It's the state of choosing
your reality. 8)
Just as Bentinho Massaro chooses bliss, one can choose to feel
great, to be exuberant. One can choose to use intent to
manipulate the flow. I find that capability to be non-ordinary,
very exciting, and truly liberating. :D
Ray
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Re: Exulansis
DIR By: Plato
Date: August 24, 2015, 9:04 am
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I agree Justin, initially our minds are concerned with the
surface, the turbulence, the ripples but when one shows up
"here" the water is settling and slowly become's still, how deep
does one plumb the depths once the focus is off the surface
(maya)? Infinite possibilities of how to experience the depths
or turn back and watch the people who are still focused on the
surface and as Nessa says, use them as toys, feed off their
energies if thats your bent, we still have preferences after
"it" shows up, Jed prefers anonymity, Adya prefers the Satsang,
the freedom to follow ones bliss is the gift of H/A, it doesn't
end with T/R, it just doesn't have the same meaning.
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Re: Exulansis
DIR By: Justin
Date: August 24, 2015, 9:27 am
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Ha I deleted that Steve as I am making a concerted effort to hop
off my soap box. It really is all equally as valid. Which
renders everything I say pretty much as just noise. Oh well what
are ya gonna do....whatever ya want! That's what.
Hope the puppy survived his/her painting experiment :D
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Re: Exulansis
DIR By: Nessa
Date: August 24, 2015, 9:34 am
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Ah Ray, sure... the Mind fills in the Void, akin to pretending
to believe in the Game and even enjoying it. For you it may be
mental pursuits, as this, the Mercurial curiosity and desire to
find Perfection of Mind - are your birthright. For me - the
Senses rule, and that's what I enjoy the most.. a sensual, 'in
the now' existence when I gasp from a fast motorbike ride or
seeing the sunset or a kiss... sensual existence = based on
feeling senses.
I'd venture that Justin is the senses man, so I wrote that for
him.
But. From the state of true Nothingness the Void cannot be
filled. That's when you find that no matter what you end up
enjoying... you remain the vampire, not quite alive and not
really dead. The Undead. I found there's a lot of Love in that
state, there is nothing left to lose, the 'I' is gone and what's
left - is eternal and real. What's not to love?
None of it is 'further'. Just different ways of Ocean manifest.
Ray, the anger you feel inside at times, will not be resolved
through either seeking Perfection or manipulating the Flow. You
- are the Flow. And you never chose who you are.
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Re: Exulansis
DIR By: Nessa
Date: August 24, 2015, 9:57 am
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and another thing...
--- Quote ---
> Bentinho Massaro chooses bliss
--- End Quote ---
We don't choose bliss. It chooses us.
He charges $600 per hour for SKYPE sessions. While there are
ways of exploiting the dream state... I simply see his 'who'.
In approximately five years time he will have a massive
internal breakdown. Watch this space.
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Re: Exulansis
DIR By: Frits
Date: August 24, 2015, 11:30 am
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You may choose bliss, but it doesn't mean you'll get it, nor if
bliss chooses you, does it mean you will recognize it. Bliss,
either way, is b u l l s h i t. If you wanna live in ego-land,
choose away and it might come to you or not, but if it does it
will go away again cos in ego-land nothing is permanent and
above all it is fake crap. You want out? Cool! Than go further!
Anything less than that is fake and not true. Simple as that.
And that Bennitto guy, what's his name?, is only selling his
mediocre stuff on the spiritual marketplace for fools. He is a
fake and what he sells is crap.
So, now I may have my moment of bliss with a cool beer and some
chips.
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Re: Exulansis
DIR By: Justin
Date: August 24, 2015, 12:00 pm
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Cool frits. I'll go on experiencing, bliss, joy and extascy
everyday by choice and sometimes i may remind myself that your
opinion is that it is fake bullshit and that somehow that
actually matters. ;)
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Re: Exulansis
DIR By: Nessa
Date: August 24, 2015, 12:08 pm
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Perhaps it would help if we defined what bliss means to each
one.
For me.. there are two. One is involuntary, an experience so
very rare that I've had it only once in my life. I spoke about
it on Jed's. It is beyond descriptions, transitory and
unexplained, a state of being-ness 'as is'. It was accompanied
by such overwhelming and unknown before happiness that I
couldn't even move, frozen and speechless.
But that is the bliss which none can sustain or live in
permanently. An Impossible Grace.
Another is very ordinary and just.. normal. A state of inner
balance and peace which is hard to penetrate, free from drama.
Gratitude enters this kind of bliss, it's 'in the world' and
very much part of everyday experience. Contentment no matter
what occurs. It's possible only because I know who and what I
am, and so this bliss is sustainable, abiding.
Frits, regarding Massaro.. you are correct, even if a tad
unforgiving. He is young, with his first (only first!) opening..
some time in the future it will catch up with him and will teach
him a lesson.
Justin, take note.. or not :)
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Re: Exulansis
DIR By: Justin
Date: August 24, 2015, 12:23 pm
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Well for me ness there is really no need to define or talk about
it. It is my state of being. Anything said about it...isn't it
soo..
As far as bentinho goes ya he's full of shit...which one of us
isn't.
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