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#Post#: 556--------------------------------------------------
Re: Plato, Steve and know1's thread (no cross pollinating
please)
DIR By: Plato
Date: January 4, 2015, 3:05 pm
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Metaphor time. Each of us is the empty space within a kettle
hung over a fire at birth, those that hung the kettle begin
filling it with everything they believe important, what they
want reflected back to them, if we reflect it back properly, if
the stew they have "created" tastes good to them we are rewarded
and we will be this "stew" forever, our entire lives, we live as
an amalgam of someone else's wishes, dreams and "tastes" we live
our lives trying to "taste" good to others.
Eventually we "Awaken" from this slavery by tasting ourselves,
normally this won't happen until someone else says they "don't
like our stew" wondering why, we have a little taste of
ourselves, this revelation is more a revulsion, "How the Christ
did all this get in here? This stew is horrible, I would have
never made this stew with these ingredients". And so we "Stew"
on this stew, try to get therapists and family members to eat
it, Psychologists and guru's to clean it out but to no avail.
There are two options left, let it continue to cook until it
hardens and solidifies into the kettle and "becomes" the kettle,
a rigid and bitter human, or eat it ourselves, the sooner the
better, the longer it cooks the harder it is to swallow.
Autolisys. Eat the sh*t stew (you) someone else made, all of it,
you don't have to like it, you definitely won't, you just have
to eat it. Most children will not eat this soup or stew, they
would rather spend a lifetime complaining about it. H/C.
Once, the original stew that was not of your choosing is gone
there is space where you can start making your own stew,
choosing elements from the dream that "you" choose, clearly and
with purpose, not infected or programmed from your past idea of
what a "stew" is supposed to be. This stew, that tastes good to
you, it's wonderful, it is Human Adulthood.
For some, the empty kettle is all that will fill them, within
the empty kettle lies everything and nothing, all possibility,
for those who have done autolisys as an adult, every day is it's
own stew, the kettle is washed every night and the next day a
fresh, different stew is possible with the fresh ingredients of
the day. Every night brings death and every day a new life.
Jaynes put it succinctly "Why are we least conscious when doing
something most habitual?"
Stewing in and starving to death with someone else's stew in our
kettle, pain and hunger is the daily reward (H/C)
Eating our own tasty self made stew, sometimes good sometimes
bad but always ours, fullness is the daily reward (H/A)
Having an empty kettle to just be or create something new from
every day, experiencing consciousness fully is it own reward
(T/R)
#Post#: 558--------------------------------------------------
Re: Plato, Steve and know1's thread (no cross pollinating
please)
DIR By: Plato
Date: January 4, 2015, 11:17 pm
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Stoked for you Biisuto, welcome to no more questions, I gather
it was similar for you, one minute there is a searching
paradigm, it's been there forever and then *Click* nothing... I
guess I expected more of a Bang or something, like a Unity
Consciousness thingy but no was very simple, like it had been
sitting next to me smiling all the while...
This happened on Dec. 28th, one week ago, crazy :) Congrats.
PS. It's not important.
#Post#: 565--------------------------------------------------
Re: Plato, Steve and know1's thread (no cross pollinating
please)
DIR By: Plato
Date: January 5, 2015, 8:58 am
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I have this new superpower, I need Bii to come up with a name
for it but literally all I have to do is pose a situation in my
mind and a resolution to that situation shows up in the morning
when I awake, maybe not the next morning but pretty damn quick,
for example:
I am in lousy physical shape, I had a gym membership for a year
and went once, I hate the gym but I need some way to stretch and
exercise that I will want to do or it just won't happen, I
pulled a hamstring skiing last week, another reminder that it's
not getting better. I set these thoughts in my subconscious, not
using mind, just trusting that a solution would show up and this
morning upon awakening it did...
When I was 13 I had been in karate for three years and was the
top jr. student, traveled and put on demonstrations, won awards,
it was a big part of my childhood, then the "Master" got caught
in a sex deal with students (not me, ha) and my parents yanked
me out, I was unaware of why until later but the bottom line was
I never did it again, in fact I turned and began laughing at
people wearing their gee's, now seen as an obvious covering over
of the pain of that event. I awoke this morning with the amazing
out of the blue thought to start doing karate for my exercise,
this has honestly never crossed my "mind" in over 30 years and
all of the sudden it's just "what is happening today".
It's like my mind is no longer in charge of my life and the
solutions that are coming through from source seem perfect, like
Duh...
Looking up martial arts places after I get out of the Kave, any
suggestions Bii? I know this is your forte.
#Post#: 575--------------------------------------------------
Re: Plato, Steve and know1's thread (no cross pollinating
please)
DIR By: Plato
Date: January 5, 2015, 2:08 pm
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Eh... whatever... it's becoming unbelievably clear that I have
no one to communicate with in my "real" life, I can't say that
this is not somewhat disappointing, I'm sure I'll keep getting
used to it, at some point I'll just stop trying, it's just that
the chasm is widening. I don't know how people in relationships
keep those alive at this point, I can't even see having a
conversation anymore, I've tried here and there but the gulf,
even before this stage was so immense there was no crossing it.
Back when i was half asleep it was easy, decent looking and semi
intelligent was enough, sh*t, I'm afraid I'd struggle with a
Mensa supermodel now.... ::) I listen occasionally to Adya do a
Satsang and I think "how are you not slapping the f u c k out
that stupid b itch right now?" Ha... we are all one, I know, I
want to cut off my big toe...
The problem is I've out paced even the people I used to commune
with, they can't follow, it's like J said where he watches in
amusement while his girlfriend gets run around by her mind,
you've found a space I'll be looking for J, I can do it with
everyone else but a significant other? I'm not sure I could ever
play long enough to start a relationship let alone sustain one,
maybe it's different if it happens while you're already
"engaged" in one... Bii might have a good take on that at the
moment... Or maybe I just need a Mrs. 20 eh, Nessa? ;)
#Post#: 586--------------------------------------------------
Re: Plato, Steve and know1's thread (no cross pollinating
please)
DIR By: Plato
Date: January 6, 2015, 8:00 am
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Jesus, Maya is ****ing relentless, check out her latest effort
to derail me... Sent this email to Jed yesterday:
Jed, I awoke with no more questions a week ago, I had already
committed to the Nav series prior but after I had no more
questions I really thought whats the point? Hear me out here.
After I did the first exercise and trying to think of things I
wanted and didn’t want (I couldn’t think of anything for either
list, I finally tried to conjure something but really…nothing)
It struck me that I should give my spot and my money to Penks, I
don’t have a lot of cash on hand, it’s all tied up in properties
and such so it wasn’t “easy” to part with the cash, that being
said I have already received value by sending it without any
guarantees of anything, it seems the next step for me is to give
this to Penks which is only gifting it to myself again and
experiencing what it really means to be “One” not just in
theory.
This is just whats going on, I guess I could see how this is
Maya tricking me into stopping but it doesn’t quite feel that
way, maybe misplaced compassion?… It’s just been sitting there
until I read his post today and it set me to writing this, seems
like I’m being pointed in a direction…
Well there it is, you see things from higher ground, I have no
more questions but I am asking advice or an opinion…
Thanks,
Steve
He didn't respond luckily for when I woke up I realized that
Maya had me by the balls, no disrespect Penks but I know where
you are and it brings up stuff for me, I want to fix that stuff
for you, oops, not my business, in fact me trying to "save" you
would be like opening the baby birds egg for it and robbing it
of the life saving work it needed to move forward by working out
of the shell itself. You have to do the math to get the real
answer for yourself.
So, I sent Jed this email this morning:
Jed, disregard that last email… Maya doesn’t want me getting
out, likes me where I am so she’s going for the jugular,
compassion…. I see it this morning clearly…further.
Steve
Then I read Biisuto's, message in a bottle post at IGF and
bingo, confirmation.
PS. and right on cue, Jed's response:
Hi steve:
Your second email was what I was going to say. Maya/ego, master
of disguises and illusions.
Hang in there.
Love ya, Jed.
#Post#: 588--------------------------------------------------
Re: Plato, Steve and know1's thread (no cross pollinating
please)
DIR By: penks
Date: January 6, 2015, 9:09 am
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Dear know, thank you very much for your consideration. I have
already got my seat in the Series :)
#Post#: 591--------------------------------------------------
Re: Plato, Steve and know1's thread (no cross pollinating
please)
DIR By: Plato
Date: January 6, 2015, 11:13 am
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Sweet! Glad to hear that Penks...
#Post#: 597--------------------------------------------------
Re: Plato, Steve and know1's thread (no cross pollinating
please)
DIR By: Plato
Date: January 7, 2015, 12:29 pm
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As this "no questions" deepens I'm finding the blah blah blah
less interesting and the desire to engage fading, might be just
for today but today is the forever/now. I'm guessing there's a
honeymoon period I'm working with here and the infatuation with
and discussion of the new paradigm will wane into...?
At the moment it feels it will just take the form of a "me"
doing the same things as always but with completely different
motivations, I've seen through so many false ones so quickly
that i feel a gestation period coming on, I've been impregnated
and feel a need to slow down and take care of my body while what
"is" is manifesting. To sit and do some knitting while it grows
inside of me.
For this ape that's painting but the habits and reasons for art,
embedded for decades from centuries old concepts, must continue
to be purged so the new one can start to take form, no wait, so
the emptiness can stay? That feels better, why get rid of one
set of rules and replace them with another? I see this as just
staying with mindfulness and awareness without distractions.
At this stage painting has become rote, it now reverts back to
the exploration I was in the beginning, thoughtful consideration
during process coupled with spontaneous jolts, all to avoid the
old paradigm, a well worn rut, easily slipped into. An unknowing
of where I'm headed, just a commitment to momentary flow,
allowing senses to just "be" without judgement, labeling and
confinement...
Fear is the paradox here, it has always been my engine, all of
my painting to this point is laden with it, what will I create
without fear? Anything? How will I approach the canvas, as
warrior, saint or beggar? All of the above and none? My mind
goes back to Damnedest "Art need not be created, teeth need not
be flossed". Why anything then?
Because I, God, choose it to be so... any other "reason" is a
lie. There's no longer a reason to strike through the mask once
the mask is identified as self, simply keep the lamp on,
illuminating always, this is enough. Keeping oil in the lamp...
ah, now theres the trick for us virgins...
#Post#: 606--------------------------------------------------
Re: Plato, Steve and know1's thread (no cross pollinating
please)
DIR By: Plato
Date: January 8, 2015, 10:55 am
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So, I don't think I've told anyone here or at Jed's but I've
been funded to write a book showcasing my artwork, this happened
2 years ago and I've got most of the photography done of my work
so everything has been ready to go except I just didn't know
what to write in the book, I'm not interested in it being a how
to, those are bull****, not interested in stories per se, "my"
life story blah blah NOT. So thats the part that I've been hung
up on, until Jed qualified a 250 word limit on diatribes...
Now I know what the books words will be, on the facing page of
each painting will be a short exploration, the book will be a
journey of realization, as honest and forthcoming a one as is
possible for a "me" to create. I have a writer who has signed
off to help ghost write from whatever I came up with, she wrote
this:
HTML http://www.southwestart.com/featured/steven-lee-adams-the-haunting-landscape<br
/>
and we've become friends but I am not sure she is up to this
task, mostly because I can't even imagine her comprehending or
interpreting correctly what I've written thus far and what will
come. It's been coming to me for the last several days to ask
Biisuto if there is an interest in helping in this process,
there's no cash allocated for it but a trade, editing/ghost
writing for artwork has come to mind...
Anyway, the prospects seem a bit crazy, I don't even know B's
name but I am a huge fan of your writing skill, and we are
staring at the same expanse of desert, I need to unload this
book before I can move on, for me it's closing the door on that
work and time, I can't empty my mind of these images till I get
through this process... so I'm tossing this out there Pinky....
Talk dirty to me.
In that vein I post this, written yesterday, it's lengthy and
not even finished but I just write what comes up, almost daily,
there is usually a spark and I just roll with it, sometimes I
find things other times no but the writing is a contemplation, a
sorting of itself that I am enjoying, a singular exploration
that continues to illuminate and put oil in my lamp...
The new Corporation.
Each human being is like a corporation, parents are shareholders
with the baby (although some believe the child has no stake at
all) and the parents hard work goes into what they consider
their “holdings” in the corporation, it’s very substantial from
0 to 20 and beyond. The child senses he/she has a large stake in
this venture as well but doesn’t believe or has been programmed
to believe that they have no say in the matter, that they are
too young to make corporate decisions.
The parents being CEO and CFO of this little corporation have a
vested interest in it succeeding but like most egotistical heads
of companies are conflicted by their own needs and power/control
programs. Healthy CEO’s groom the child for an eventual takeover
that is smooth and seamless, keeps things operating at peak
performance. This however is the rarest of phenomena.
More likely there is a hostile takeover generated by the child
as it slowly becomes aware that the company is not working in
it’s best interests but for other entities and purposes, energy
and direction being siphoned off at every turn by programming
that was implemented in early childhood.
Not totally aware of what these forces are, the child starts to
act erratically against them, to act out in frustration and
anger but without anything to actually point to as a “reason”
for the behavior but the reason is there, the actions of the
child are the result and the evidence of, the unseen forces
around him/her. The CEO/CFO in charge is also the creator of the
paradigm within which the child feels this disparity and so when
the child points it back to the CEO it is quickly overturned and
put back on the “bad” child exacerbating the child’s erratic
behavior .
As we see in real corporations, the CEO can do no wrong and
often gets the “Golden Parachute" for all their hard work in
behalf of the company, this payout robs the company of capital
and makes it even more difficult for the child to move forward,
the parachute may show up as “My god, you did everything you
could do with that child, not your fault” by implication the
fault lays with the child, this is just more false guilt that
the child will eventually believe and hate themselves for or
spend years working through in some type of therapy. Most likely
they just become the CEO/CFO they were trained to be creating
more dysfunctional corporations along the way.
Programming.
So the little Corporation is programmed, whether by good CEO’s
and CFO's or poor ones the programming is done, the child come
adult is now up and running whether by smooth transition or
hostile takeover, they are now thinking they are the CEO and
make their own choices for the corporation.
This could not be further from the truth.
Every choice made comes through the filter created by the
original CEO’s. How many times at Apple do you think they say
“What would Steve Jobs do in this situation?” Or, for the
religious, “What would Jesus/Muhammed/Buddha do?” The funny part
is we don’t even ask these questions, they are intrinsic
programs set in place long before we could even think about it,
they are the “water” to fish, the “atmosphere” to mammals it is
in “ everything” we see think and feel, it is The Matrix and it
controls the CEO of the little corporations mind.
It is all encompassing, all pervasive until we exit the world of
childhood, (the atmosphere or water) and see it from a different
place, an alternate paradigm. Most adults never do. The place
where the water, air, Matrix has taken up residency and has
total control of us is in our mind. It has become our mind, and
we think it is who we are, everything we think, choose and
subsequently feel is a product of this internalized Matrix. it
encompasses and owns 99% of the stock in the little corporation
and it is comprised of ghosts from the past, every element of
society is just the remnants of the ideas and beliefs that came
before and those elements are what was used to program the mind.
The new CEO of the corporation, he/she is nothing but an ant in
the hill, a bee in the hive or more darkly, a humanoid in the
Borg, the false belief in free will is just that, a lie that
keeps the unit in position, placates the little voice deep
inside that knows something is wrong, that screams to be set
free… We are programmed to strangle that voice, it is “the
natural man, an enemy to God” or “The Devil” tempting us to "do
wrong" and trying to steal our souls…
The question comes down to, Who do we believe? The little voice
inside of us or the massive mountain of people and evidence
outside of us demanding we conform? Wake up, wake up.
The Takeover. There is no “Us and Them” it’s only them and we
are “Them”
So how do we become "Us"? There is no moving forward from
childhood, no matter one's age, until we eschew all outside
authority (disengage from "them") and become "Us" this is actual
adulthood H/A
to be continued...
#Post#: 608--------------------------------------------------
Re: Plato, Steve and know1's thread (cross pollination now
encouraged)
DIR By: Cannonball
Date: January 8, 2015, 11:55 am
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Those your paintings? If so very nice :)
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