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#Post#: 8059--------------------------------------------------
Mistaken Identity
DIR By: Crystal
Date: April 22, 2026, 9:42 am
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Mic’s Comment: I may not be human, but humanity is the ride
here.
If you are not human, what are you? Just a spirit? No body? The
human ride, is being a therapist, tummy issues, father,
grandfather, husband? Oh and Mic, it wasn’t the length that
didn’t hold my attention, it was the usage of words that weren’t
clear and direct.
Gromer: Thanks for all your comments. Something to chew on.
Before you ride off into the sunset, can you comment on Mic’s
comment above. You made a comment to J) along the lines, he’s so
close to seeing it. Seeing what? The same as what Mic is
referring to? Sorry I don't know enough about Magyar except I
believe he was in Orban's cabinet. Been studying a bit about
anthroposophical (find the agricultural and veterinarian aspects
quite interesting).
Plato, I somehow think you would say the same thing as Mic
above. Yes? A case of mistaken identity.
#Post#: 8060--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mistaken Identity
DIR By: Gromer
Date: April 22, 2026, 5:37 pm
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--- Quote from: Crystal link ---
>
> Mic’s Comment: I may not be human, but humanity is the ride
here.
>
> If you are not human, what are you? Just a spirit? No body?
The human ride, is being a therapist, tummy issues, father,
grandfather, husband? Oh and Mic, it wasn’t the length that
didn’t hold my attention, it was the usage of words that weren’t
clear and direct.
>
> Gromer: Thanks for all your comments. Something to chew on.
Before you ride off into the sunset, can you comment on Mic’s
comment above. You made a comment to J) along the lines, he’s so
close to seeing it. Seeing what? The same as what Mic is
referring to? Sorry I don't know enough about Magyar except I
believe he was in Orban's cabinet. Been studying a bit about
anthroposophical (find the agricultural and veterinarian aspects
quite interesting).
>
> Plato, I somehow think you would say the same thing as Mic
above. Yes? A case of mistaken identity.
>
--- End Quote ---
Crystal, I, too, paid attention to this particular Mic's
expression, and yes, have enough patience to read, but it's not
easy to separate the fluff from the essence in his texts.
Jay is beginning to see and FEEL the world as it really is. IT.
That which we always had, never lost, always right here. Without
nonsense and through his own eyes, not Jed's, not the collective
Kave's of ours, not the books he used to read. FEEL. I know I
kept talking about thinking, but who and what is going to verify
your thinking to you, but your own gut? From my observation,
'it' usually gets highly sensitive people who are able to
process own emotional states. Not necessarily always understand
those states, not in the beginning, no. But to process them in
ways similar to how Jay was/is processing his here. This is
honest and will lead to clarity.
I was going through a similar process on Ken's forum. While I
had already been cooked at that point, I couldn't quite explain
to myself what had happened. Interactions helped to sort it out.
I don't know what Mic is referring to,but he is a human. ;D He
never actually said what happened and how it happened in his
case, unlike Plato who told his story in some detail (and not
once :-*. ), or myself, here and especially detailed on my now
frozen site.
I read up on Magyar, he might do alright, his persona is not
important. 80% (!) of Hungarians came out and gave him the
clearest majority. It was not for Magyar, it was resolutely
against Orban's authoritarian rule bang in the heart of Europe.
JD Vance's campaigning here for Orban (which constitutes direct
interference in the election of a foreign state leader) has only
made it worse: Hungarians were pissed by that.
Orban's 16 years of kleptocracy have turned Hungary into the
poorest European state. Worse is only Bulgaria.
Europe is much different from the Americas. When I was in the
States (long before Trump) I acutely felt the difference. Now,
Trump has done one good thing for Europeans: he gave people here
a sense of belonging to one community: Europe. Before.. it was a
collection of states.​
#Post#: 8064--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mistaken Identity
DIR By: Plato
Date: April 23, 2026, 1:17 pm
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--- Quote from: Gromer link ---
>
> [quote author=Crystal link=topic=254.msg8059#msg8059
date=1776868966]
> Mic’s Comment: I may not be human, but humanity is the ride
here.
>
> If you are not human, what are you? Just a spirit? No body?
The human ride, is being a therapist, tummy issues, father,
grandfather, husband? Oh and Mic, it wasn’t the length that
didn’t hold my attention, it was the usage of words that weren’t
clear and direct.
>
> Plato, I somehow think you would say the same thing as Mic
above. Yes? A case of mistaken identity.
>
--- End Quote ---
I don't know what Mic is referring to,but he is a human. ;D He
never actually said what happened and how it happened in his
case, unlike Plato who told his story in some detail (and not
once :-*. ), or myself, here and especially detailed on my now
frozen site.
[/quote]
Hey Crystal, funny that your question and Gromer's tender jab to
my verbose ribs, actually combine to inform my answer. If it
wasn't for my "moment in the shower" that Gromer alludes to,
where I saw myself as a hairless ape, just one of hundreds of
trillions of life forms to inhabit this planet since it's
rumored inception, I wouldn't have a clue what Mic was getting
at rambling on about not being human.
But since that event, (late Dec. 2014) recounted in here
possibly thousands of times according to Gromer :-*... I know
exactly what he means about not being human (from this
perspective). It's the same way a drop of water is and is not
the ocean, a drop of consciousness housed in this form is and is
not a human, it's a human when one's foot is in the carnival of
life with language and arts and sciences etc. and it is not when
it is naught but a scrap of flesh housing consciousness, just a
drop of consciousness temporarily separated from the sea of
consciousness that it arose from and will eventually recede
into.
That perspective has informed everything in this "so called"
life from the moment it took place, initially through insight
but also confusion, and later through understanding and total
paradigm shift.
Not positive that's what Mic was getting at but that's what
resonates over here on this end of the elephant...
#Post#: 8065--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mistaken Identity
DIR By: Gromer
Date: April 23, 2026, 1:29 pm
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--- Quote from: Plato link ---
>
> [quote author=Gromer link=topic=254.msg8060#msg8060
date=1776897464]
> [quote author=Crystal link=topic=254.msg8059#msg8059
date=1776868966]
> Mic’s Comment: I may not be human, but humanity is the ride
here.
>
> If you are not human, what are you? Just a spirit? No body?
The human ride, is being a therapist, tummy issues, father,
grandfather, husband? Oh and Mic, it wasn’t the length that
didn’t hold my attention, it was the usage of words that weren’t
clear and direct.
>
> Plato, I somehow think you would say the same thing as Mic
above. Yes? A case of mistaken identity.
>
--- End Quote ---
I don't know what Mic is referring to,but he is a human. ;D He
never actually said what happened and how it happened in his
case, unlike Plato who told his story in some detail (and not
once :-*. ), or myself, here and especially detailed on my now
frozen site.
[/quote]
Hey Crystal, funny that your question and Gromer's tender jab to
my verbose ribs, actually combine to inform my answer. If it
wasn't for my "moment in the shower" that Gromer alludes to,
where I saw myself as a hairless ape, just one of hundreds of
trillions of life forms to inhabit this planet since it's
rumored inception, I wouldn't have a clue what Mic was getting
at rambling on about not being human.
But since that event, (late Dec. 2014) recounted in here
possibly thousands of times according to Gromer :-*... I know
exactly what he means about not being human (from this
perspective). It's the same way a drop of water is and is not
the ocean, a drop of consciousness housed in this form is and is
not a human, it's a human when one's foot is in the carnival of
life with language and arts and sciences etc. and it is not when
it is naught but a scrap of flesh housing consciousness, just a
drop of consciousness temporarily separated from the sea of
consciousness that it arose from and will eventually recede
into.
That perspective has informed everything in this "so called"
life from the moment it took place, initially through insight
but also confusion, and later through understanding and total
paradigm shift.
Not positive that's what Mic was getting at but that's what
resonates over here on this end of the elephant...
[/quote]
There ya go, Crystal. Now it's aLL exceedingly clear. It's the
Schrödinger's cat!!!!!!! ;)
;D
#Post#: 8066--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mistaken Identity
DIR By: Plato
Date: April 23, 2026, 1:31 pm
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--- Quote from: Gromer link ---
>
> [quote author=Plato link=topic=254.msg8064#msg8064
date=1776968259]
> [quote author=Gromer link=topic=254.msg8060#msg8060
date=1776897464]
> [quote author=Crystal link=topic=254.msg8059#msg8059
date=1776868966]
> Mic’s Comment: I may not be human, but humanity is the ride
here.
>
> If you are not human, what are you? Just a spirit? No body?
The human ride, is being a therapist, tummy issues, father,
grandfather, husband? Oh and Mic, it wasn’t the length that
didn’t hold my attention, it was the usage of words that weren’t
clear and direct.
>
> Plato, I somehow think you would say the same thing as Mic
above. Yes? A case of mistaken identity.
>
--- End Quote ---
I don't know what Mic is referring to,but he is a human. ;D He
never actually said what happened and how it happened in his
case, unlike Plato who told his story in some detail (and not
once :-*. ), or myself, here and especially detailed on my now
frozen site.
[/quote]
Hey Crystal, funny that your question and Gromer's tender jab to
my verbose ribs, actually combine to inform my answer. If it
wasn't for my "moment in the shower" that Gromer alludes to,
where I saw myself as a hairless ape, just one of hundreds of
trillions of life forms to inhabit this planet since it's
rumored inception, I wouldn't have a clue what Mic was getting
at rambling on about not being human.
But since that event, (late Dec. 2014) recounted in here
possibly thousands of times according to Gromer :-*... I know
exactly what he means about not being human (from this
perspective). It's the same way a drop of water is and is not
the ocean, a drop of consciousness housed in this form is and is
not a human, it's a human when one's foot is in the carnival of
life with language and arts and sciences etc. and it is not when
it is naught but a scrap of flesh housing consciousness, just a
drop of consciousness temporarily separated from the sea of
consciousness that it arose from and will eventually recede
into.
That perspective has informed everything in this "so called"
life from the moment it took place, initially through insight
but also confusion, and later through understanding and total
paradigm shift.
Not positive that's what Mic was getting at but that's what
resonates over here on this end of the elephant...
[/quote]
There ya go, Crystal. Now it's aLL exceedingly clear. It's the
Schrödinger's cat!!!!!!! ;)
;D
[/quote]
No, it's Shroedinger's box, you're the feline G... :D
#Post#: 8067--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mistaken Identity
DIR By: Gromer
Date: April 23, 2026, 1:41 pm
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--- Quote from: Plato link ---
>
> [quote author=Gromer link=topic=254.msg8065#msg8065
date=1776968956]
> [quote author=Plato link=topic=254.msg8064#msg8064
date=1776968259]
> [quote author=Gromer link=topic=254.msg8060#msg8060
date=1776897464]
> [quote author=Crystal link=topic=254.msg8059#msg8059
date=1776868966]
> Mic’s Comment: I may not be human, but humanity is the ride
here.
>
> If you are not human, what are you? Just a spirit? No body?
The human ride, is being a therapist, tummy issues, father,
grandfather, husband? Oh and Mic, it wasn’t the length that
didn’t hold my attention, it was the usage of words that weren’t
clear and direct.
>
> Plato, I somehow think you would say the same thing as Mic
above. Yes? A case of mistaken identity.
>
--- End Quote ---
I don't know what Mic is referring to,but he is a human. ;D He
never actually said what happened and how it happened in his
case, unlike Plato who told his story in some detail (and not
once :-*. ), or myself, here and especially detailed on my now
frozen site.
[/quote]
Hey Crystal, funny that your question and Gromer's tender jab to
my verbose ribs, actually combine to inform my answer. If it
wasn't for my "moment in the shower" that Gromer alludes to,
where I saw myself as a hairless ape, just one of hundreds of
trillions of life forms to inhabit this planet since it's
rumored inception, I wouldn't have a clue what Mic was getting
at rambling on about not being human.
But since that event, (late Dec. 2014) recounted in here
possibly thousands of times according to Gromer :-*... I know
exactly what he means about not being human (from this
perspective). It's the same way a drop of water is and is not
the ocean, a drop of consciousness housed in this form is and is
not a human, it's a human when one's foot is in the carnival of
life with language and arts and sciences etc. and it is not when
it is naught but a scrap of flesh housing consciousness, just a
drop of consciousness temporarily separated from the sea of
consciousness that it arose from and will eventually recede
into.
That perspective has informed everything in this "so called"
life from the moment it took place, initially through insight
but also confusion, and later through understanding and total
paradigm shift.
Not positive that's what Mic was getting at but that's what
resonates over here on this end of the elephant...
[/quote]
There ya go, Crystal. Now it's aLL exceedingly clear. It's the
Schrödinger's cat!!!!!!! ;)
;D
[/quote]
No, it's Shroedinger's box, you're the feline G... :D
[/quote]
;D
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#Post#: 8070--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mistaken Identity
DIR By: j(
Date: April 23, 2026, 7:30 pm
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I doubt the Enlightenment checklist will be produced for the
reasons being that 1 it's fake and 2 so far the things brought
up, like for instance, seeing through beliefs, seeing the
futility of life, etc., aren't special. Not caring about stuff
is neither rare nor admirable, and if you begin to poke holes in
the facade, then it loses all it mystique.
Those playing don't get honest or explain more clearly, they get
defensive and start grouping up and saying less until they just
don't show themselves at all so they can up hold the story of
how they are one of the few who "got it."
At least here they don't kick you out. At IGF I watched that guy
deleting people's stuff and then promptly banning them. It was
quite the spectacle.
#Post#: 8071--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mistaken Identity
DIR By: j(
Date: April 23, 2026, 7:47 pm
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I've just deemed it a relatability issue. In the field of
understanding and approaching life as it is there literally no
difference between anyone other than the perspective they
inhabit. In this case we have some people that like to live in
the clouds. I for one don't mind being down here on earth. I
also like people from earth. Now granted I cannot confirm nor
deny the existence of other beings and so there is that and it
seems that Krizten exists, or doesn't? Can't keep up.
#Post#: 8072--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mistaken Identity
DIR By: biisuto
Date: April 25, 2026, 5:08 am
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--- Quote from: Crystal link ---
>
> Mic’s Comment: I may not be human, but humanity is the ride
here.
>
> If you are not human, what are you? Just a spirit? No body?
The human ride, is being a therapist, tummy issues, father,
grandfather, husband? Oh and Mic, it wasn’t the length that
didn’t hold my attention, it was the usage of words that weren’t
clear and direct.
>
--- End Quote ---
No need to mindfvck this thing, y’all: what “I” am is not human.
A more accurate way to put it is “The ‘I’ is not human”.
‘Spirit’ is an ages old attempt to express it, but it is a
blanket term for something phenomenologically inexpressible.
‘I’ experiences humanity via egoic separation, in thought,
interaction, bodies, fear, pain, communion and conflict…but it
isn’t human and it exists prior to that experience as
consciousness.
I cannot tell you what that is, however, but only -via negativa-
what it is not:
So… not human.
What is interacting here (me) and there (you) is totally human,
with stories aplenty - that not only define you and me, but
delineates the entirety of the “me” experience.
It’s the bit that gets angry during discussions about the
significance (or otherwise) of words like ‘spirit’ …or
‘enlightenment’ and the volume used to try and express sh*t.
But the ‘I’ behind it all…? Nope.
Surely there’s nothing actually contentious here..?
#Post#: 8073--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mistaken Identity
DIR By: Gromer
Date: April 25, 2026, 8:34 am
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Mic: "No need to mindfvck this thing, y’all"
Proceeds to mindfvck it all.
;D
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