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       Old IGF post
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: April 19, 2023, 9:06 pm
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       Below is a partial thread from IGF nearly 9 years ago, I haven't
       been over there forever but decided to wander about and see
       whats happening over there. Here is Ken (Jed), Gromercop (Nessa)
       myself (know1) and Ray (Rgardner) diligently getting after it.
       Thought it interesting but also pertinent.
       Member Forum » Member Posts » Jed, on the offensive about
       defenses
       Jed McKenna
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       Jed, on the offensive about defenses
       « on: October 06, 2014, 10:18:06 pm »
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       An extract from a previous post. Please read slowly while
       watching your response to it. Thanks in advance.
       Simple, but not easy. I don't know if we have discussed this
       one, but have you done Kiloby's vids on Unfindable Objects? Find
       your sickness and the you that is ill. I highly recommend them.
       Conserve your energy by not talking about yourself any more. No
       one really wants to hear about you. They all just pretend.
       Believe me, I know what I am talking about. No! don't believe
       me, believe yourself. That's the source.
       Dialogue:
       Hi, how  are you?
       Well, not too bad, my backs been kicking up a little but the
       twitch in my left hand is going away. I think the acupuncture is
       helping. Got a great acupuncturist, used to be the royal
       accu-guy for the King of Thailand, but now that the king is
       dying he had to leave the country, met him in a book store in
       Syracuse. He noticed a little growth on my right ear, it's dark
       and irregular, said it might be cancer. Jeez, I don't know what
       to do. Other than that, I'm not doing too bad. Wife left me last
       week, said the drinking and smoking dope was getting to her.
       Good thing she didn't find out about 'you know who' or I would
       have lost an important body  part. The guy from Thailand said
       wives feed them to the ducks. I watched a documentary on that, a
       doctor has done three thousand re-attachments in the past eight
       years. Duck chewed ones are the toughest and the blendered ones
       are impossible. Yup.. sure glad she didn't find out about 'you
       know who'. As a precaution, I threw out the Blendomatic we had.
       But, that's enough about me. Tell me... do you think I am
       looking a little pale, you know.. peekid.. these days? I think
       I'm losing weight, might to due the Chinese diet pills I got on
       the internet. Make my jaws clench a lot. Now, what do you
       suppose that is? Ah, probably just a little tension. That's all
       it is, just tension. I'll just have a little smoke and feel
       fine. Have you ever noticed how people don't listen to you? It
       happens all the time to me, no one listen and understands me.
       Just to be clear and for emphasis, no one gives a tinker's damn
       about you, period. Getting that is one of the biggest reliefs l
       could offer you. The freedom that comes from this kind of
       honesty is amazing. Of course, the corollary also applies, with
       the exception of West Africa. There they really do give a damn
       about you but it's not quite the same... they only give a damn
       about whether or not you have symptoms.
       Not giving a damn, or hootlessness as L.L. used to call it
       doesn't mean you are a bastard and ill-willed, it means there is
       little or no 'you' in everything you do. Things don't go better
       with Coke, things go better without 'you' in them. The more
       'you' the more screwed up things get (a generalization, but look
       around 'you' and see for yourself).
       That's a very condensed version of a huge topic. Just try it on
       for size. Also, it's important that I have offended you here, I
       make no bones about it. The only thing that can be offended is
       something that requires defending and this is all about de fence
       (please say with French accent) that you built. I want for you
       to break that fence down into recycled toothpicks. Then compress
       the toothpicks into press-to-logs and send them to Nepal where
       they have burned all their trees down (I spoke to the Dalai
       about it and he said they didn't have many trees to start with
       so it's not their fault).
       Love ya, Jed.
       know1
       Full Member
       « Reply #1 on: October 06, 2014, 10:20:19 pm »
       Who says enlightenment can't be funny? ;D
       GromerCop
       Guest
       Re: Jed, on the offensive about defenses
       « Reply #2 on: October 06, 2014, 11:18:13 pm »
       Jed, you are making me grin.
       I come here to get things out of my system, not for 'love',
       although seems as we exchange energies here - the 'give and
       take' takes place and all is fair, and in that way we are loving
       each other. EVERYONE, without exception, enjoys the sound of
       their own voice (you too, you liitle (or big?) vampire) lol
       This place IS fun and is self perpetuating, like a roundabout.
       will go on forever, as long as... YOU live forever hahaha!
       Which you won't. Bummer!
       It's all about the energetic exchange.. like sex. Sooooo-oo
       intoxicating, and everyone is having one continuous orgasm. And
       why not?
       know1
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       « Reply #11 on: October 07, 2014, 08:18:17 am »
       When I was in art school it was easy to tell the people who were
       not going to "make it" in the world of art and it was NEVER
       about talent. It all came down to critique day, the ones who
       were offended by the professors critique were never going to
       make it and it made no difference how good their work currently
       was, their ego couldn't accept it, they were a full cup, nothing
       more could get in. Those who emptied themselves, allowed that
       they knew very little or nothing, they profited by the critique,
       deepened their understanding and could move ahead to the next
       step.
       You can't put new wine into old bottles, they are too rigid,
       they break. In The Matrix Morpeus apologizes to Neo for
       "awakening his older mind" because only young minds can handle
       the information. SA, BK's The Work, Killoby, the only thing
       these are for is to empty the s**t programs that have been
       loaded into your mind by someone or some belief system so you
       can get to the starting line and BEGIN your journey. The amount
       you are offended by anything is exactly the amount of ego you
       have ruling every experience you have, it's exactly how far you
       are from the starting line, from zero, you are constantly
       running at a deficit and the world therefore sucks. When you are
       no longer offended, by ANYTHING OR ANYONE, god most of all, you
       are HA and have started your journey. The world is now your
       oyster... or not
       GromerCop
       Guest
       « Reply #15 on: October 07, 2014, 09:29:33 am »
       I care.
       I care not to manipulate people for my own petty concerns. I
       care not to take advantage of those who are weaker than me in
       some way. I can not to hve an agenda which will translate into
       some imaginary benefits for myself at the cost of others' lives.
       I **** care.. in that way.
       That's why I have nothing and I am nothing.
       Bliss.
       rgardner
       Jr. Member
       « Reply #23 on: November 12, 2014, 12:26:52 am »
       Hilarious!
       I find myself speaking without thinking, hoping to hear
       something worth thinking about.
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