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       #Post#: 6537--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The power of intention
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: January 4, 2023, 12:13 pm
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       @ Mic. Comparing his "belly of the beast" metaphor to the
       prisoner of Plato's Cave is actually quite interesting and I
       think accurate in that there really is no escape, only
       recognition of the falseness in the "Matrix". We are all in the
       belly of the beast and at some point we are headed for
       excretion, I just prefer having my head outside the blowhole,
       watching the world go by as compared to head down, constantly
       analyzing how I ended up in the belly of the beast and by
       extension worrying about being sucked through the intestines and
       extruded into the abyss.
       #Post#: 6538--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The power of intention
   DIR By: Joanna
       Date: January 5, 2023, 4:25 am
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       The first rule of Cult of the False Self is: no one leaves the
       fvcking cult! ;) 8)
       #Post#: 6539--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The power of intention
   DIR By: Frits Snips
       Date: January 6, 2023, 10:55 pm
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       --- Quote from: Plato link ---
       >
       > @ Mic. Comparing his "belly of the beast" metaphor to the
       prisoner of Plato's Cave is actually quite interesting and I
       think accurate in that there really is no escape, only
       recognition of the falseness in the "Matrix". We are all in the
       belly of the beast and at some point we are headed for
       excretion, I just prefer having my head outside the blowhole,
       watching the world go by as compared to head down, constantly
       analyzing how I ended up in the belly of the beast and by
       extension worrying about being sucked through the intestines and
       extruded into the abyss.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This here, what you wrote in this quote, is very funny. Because
       the story of Plato's Cave is actually about a guy that got out
       of the cave and saw the truth, and then he went back to tell the
       others that they are free to go out and see the truth. But they
       refuse to believe him and stay in the cave. If anything, Plato's
       Cave tells us that there IS an escape, there IS a way out of the
       cave, there IS a way out of "the belly of the beast."
       Guess what? Maybe I am that guy who got out of the cave and is
       now trying to tell you and your merry friends in this cave that
       there is a way out... that there is still further. But, of
       course, as in Plato's allegory, you won't listen. Instead of
       taking me seriously and listen to what I have to say, you
       ridicule me, you put me down and make fun of me. You refuse to
       get out of your own made up chains, because your ego won't allow
       you to actually wake up and listen to reason... and that is
       extremely hilarious.
       #Post#: 6540--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The power of intention
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: January 7, 2023, 11:56 am
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       --- Quote from: Frits Snips link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Plato link=topic=216.msg6537#msg6537
       date=1672856023]
       > @ Mic. Comparing his "belly of the beast" metaphor to the
       prisoner of Plato's Cave is actually quite interesting and I
       think accurate in that there really is no escape, only
       recognition of the falseness in the "Matrix". We are all in the
       belly of the beast and at some point we are headed for
       excretion, I just prefer having my head outside the blowhole,
       watching the world go by as compared to head down, constantly
       analyzing how I ended up in the belly of the beast and by
       extension worrying about being sucked through the intestines and
       extruded into the abyss.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This here, what you wrote in this quote, is very funny. Because
       the story of Plato's Cave is actually about a guy that got out
       of the cave and saw the truth, and then he went back to tell the
       others that they are free to go out and see the truth. But they
       refuse to believe him and stay in the cave. If anything, Plato's
       Cave tells us that there IS an escape, there IS a way out of the
       cave, there IS a way out of "the belly of the beast."
       Guess what? Maybe I am that guy who got out of the cave and is
       now trying to tell you and your merry friends in this cave that
       there is a way out... that there is still further. But, of
       course, as in Plato's allegory, you won't listen. Instead of
       taking me seriously and listen to what I have to say, you
       ridicule me, you put me down and make fun of me. You refuse to
       get out of your own made up chains, because your ego won't allow
       you to actually wake up and listen to reason... and that is
       extremely hilarious.
       [/quote]
       Like usual you misinterpret other's speech and twist it into
       your own version of self aggrandizement, we've come to expect
       nothing less from you, congratulations on "going further" did
       you get some sort of diploma or certificate? The fact that you
       can't find your way out of this "Plato's Kave" seems more than
       enough evidence that you haven't left the actual Plato's Cave
       either.
       #Post#: 6542--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The power of intention
   DIR By: Frits Snips
       Date: January 7, 2023, 1:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: whois link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Frits Snips link=topic=216.msg6539#msg6539
       date=1673067330]
       >
       > Guess what? Maybe I am that guy who got out of the cave and is
       now trying to tell you and your merry friends in this cave that
       there is a way out... that there is still further. But, of
       course, as in Plato's allegory, you won't listen. Instead of
       taking me seriously and listen to what I have to say, you
       ridicule me, you put me down and make fun of me. You refuse to
       get out of your own made up chains, because your ego won't allow
       you to actually wake up and listen to reason...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The gurudom awaits, oh The Humble One..
       [attachimg=1]
       P.S. Charging 50 euros per phone call is a bit steep, me thinks.
       Any discount for the dumb f*ck that I am?
       [/quote]
       First: learn to read, and second: learn to read.
       I don't charge for phone calls because I don't do phone calls.
       And Frits is with an S. But thank you for the effort, apparently
       I push your buttons and that's all I am here for.  ;)
       #Post#: 6543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The power of intention
   DIR By: Frits Snips
       Date: January 7, 2023, 2:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: Plato link ---
       >
       > Like usual you misinterpret other's speech and twist it into
       your own version of self aggrandizement, we've come to expect
       nothing less from you, congratulations on "going further" did
       you get some sort of diploma or certificate? The fact that you
       can't find your way out of this "Plato's Kave" seems more than
       enough evidence that you haven't left the actual Plato's Cave
       either.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You confuse me with someone who actually thinks he's here...
       that's not me. Thank you for not addressing what I actually
       wrote.
       #Post#: 6544--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The power of intention
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: January 7, 2023, 3:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: Frits Snips link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Plato link=topic=216.msg6540#msg6540
       date=1673114202]
       > Like usual you misinterpret other's speech and twist it into
       your own version of self aggrandizement, we've come to expect
       nothing less from you, congratulations on "going further" did
       you get some sort of diploma or certificate? The fact that you
       can't find your way out of this "Plato's Kave" seems more than
       enough evidence that you haven't left the actual Plato's Cave
       either.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You confuse me with someone who actually thinks he's here...
       that's not me. Thank you for not addressing what I actually
       wrote.
       [/quote]
       Oh, did I confuse you with someone who is here? I'll have no
       problem rectifying that mistake.
       #Post#: 6545--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The power of intention
   DIR By: Frits Snips
       Date: January 7, 2023, 5:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: Plato link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Frits Snips link=topic=216.msg6543#msg6543
       date=1673121716]
       > [quote author=Plato link=topic=216.msg6540#msg6540
       date=1673114202]
       > Like usual you misinterpret other's speech and twist it into
       your own version of self aggrandizement, we've come to expect
       nothing less from you, congratulations on "going further" did
       you get some sort of diploma or certificate? The fact that you
       can't find your way out of this "Plato's Kave" seems more than
       enough evidence that you haven't left the actual Plato's Cave
       either.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You confuse me with someone who actually thinks he's here...
       that's not me. Thank you for not addressing what I actually
       wrote.
       [/quote]
       Oh, did I confuse you with someone who is here? I'll have no
       problem rectifying that mistake.
       [/quote]
       I did not write that. Apparently reading what someone actually
       wrote down is extremely hard for you. Didn't you say you read
       that "how to read a book" book that Jed McKenna was so crazy
       about? If that was you, reading it didn't do you much good.  ;D
       #Post#: 6546--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The power of intention
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: January 7, 2023, 6:15 pm
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       I went to Fritz website and I clicked on "support" thinking he
       had a page to support people in their efforts at what he calls
       "adulthood" similar to IGF and what Ken was doing... Nope, it's
       a page for people to support him while he tells them how to be
       an "adult"  ;D :D ::) I don't think I've ever seen anything so
       comical and hypocritical at the same time, he hasn't had a job
       since 2012 and yet he's going to teach others how to "adult".
       Good bye Troll, good luck with your tr-ashram I'm sure you'll
       sadly fleece a couple of people.
       #Post#: 6550--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The power of intention
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: January 8, 2023, 12:07 pm
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       --- Quote from: whois link ---
       >
       > Plato,
       >
       > I abhor the company of close-minded people OF ANY CONVICTION.
       It doesn't matter whether people believe in flying saucers,
       steel welding, Qanon, Trump, flat earth, vaccines or robot
       domination (represented by Elon Musk)  ;D What matters is that
       they are at least sincere in their conviction and open-minded
       enough to consider the alternatives.
       >
       >
       > Fritz is fake. Perhaps, it's time to cut the cord?
       >
       > Your call.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I was severely put off when he came back in sporting his lies
       about not having been here since September, when I watched him
       lurking in here daily, reading posts but he couldn't chime in
       because his ego forced him to leave and if he responded it would
       be acknowledging that this place has value and his ego couldn't
       allow it. So instead he comes in here with his "savior" schtick,
       he's far beyond everyone here and he might be willing to help
       us... Jesus it took a lot to allow him to stay after those lies
       and conceits!
       Now, after looking at his plagiarized life on his multitude of
       social media sites I see even more clearly the monster his ego
       has become and I pulled the plug yesterday. Many people are
       deluded and silly but some people are dangerous, if his BS ever
       gets traction he will be one of those vampires that feed off of
       the good will and naiveté of the searchers, it's not happening
       in here tho.
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