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       #Post#: 5476--------------------------------------------------
       Other Jed's mails... (from Wisefool press) 
   DIR By: Frits Snips
       Date: May 26, 2022, 2:22 pm
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       1:
       Dear Friends,
       Sorry not to be updating Jedvaita lately.
       Somewhere in early May, owing to an unknown branch of my family
       tree, I had a heart attack. No warning, just boom. Open heart
       surgery, valve replacement, kidney failure, stent, tracheotomy,
       dead, brought back, yadda yadda yadda. In hospital for almost a
       month. Came home, collapsed, 'coptered back. Got a defibrillator
       installed to reset heart if it gets wonky again.
       Busy month.
       I'll have a lot more to share so please stay tuned. I might
       write a bit differently as I get my system cleared out, but I
       plan to share material from many dozens of hours of straightline
       (not standard dream) and highly complex shamanic-type dreamstate
       narratives. Grof, Campbell, Jung, etc. Basic Perinatal Matrix
       II. Endless torment, no-escape scenario. Hell. And some other
       stuff. Stuff that bled across the barrier between that
       dreamstate and this one.
       No one saw this coming but here we are. I hope you'll stick
       around.
       -Jed
       2:
       Dear Friends,
       I'd chew my leg off before I'd sit and listen to you talk about
       your dreams, even shamanic-y ones, and I'd expect you'd do the
       same -- like listening to a sugared-up kid explain the intricate
       subtleties of the Marvel universe -- so why do I presume you
       might be interested in my dozens of hours of straight-line
       dreamstate narrative?
       The barrier was crossed. I think. I'm no expert on any of this,
       but I believe things happened on that side which then manifested
       on this side. I could be wrong but I think I'm right. We'll look
       together and we all get to decide for ourselves, but I'm going
       to tell you some things about what I've come to call death
       motif, fatal resignation, acceptance and high-level negotiations
       of which I have strong memories from that side and which seem to
       be manifesting on this side.
       No lights, no angels, no flaming wisdom vortexes, just the
       serious business of staying or going. There's a lot more to it,
       this is just one small corner of the overall, but it's the part
       -- one part -- where events in this dreamstate were arranged and
       orchestrated in that one.
       Anyway, that's why I presume to inflict my Marvel universe on
       you.
       Another question we'll get to is this: Was this all for the
       best? It's not something I could have wished for, but is it
       something I should be grateful for? It doesn't budge me an inch
       philosophically, but it does broaden and enhance my
       understanding of the dreamstate.
       -Jed
       So, what to think of that? If anything at all? He lost me on
       this one, so I'm now officially "guru free", I guess.  ;D
       What do you think?
       #Post#: 5477--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Other Jed's mails... (from Wisefool press) 
   DIR By: Frits Snips
       Date: May 26, 2022, 2:28 pm
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       My take is that a guru — like the one this Jed became — who
       wants to make money, has to come up with new stories, and that
       is when I sign off.
       #Post#: 5478--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Other Jed's mails... (from Wisefool press) 
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: May 26, 2022, 2:53 pm
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       --- Quote from: Frits Snips link ---
       >
       > My take is that a guru — like the one this Jed became — who
       wants to make money, has to come up with new stories, and that
       is when I sign off.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I signed off on following the IGF/Damnedest Jeds back when there
       was nothing left, to do or to understand. I haven't read any of
       the books that have come out from Wisefool since 2015 although I
       do see them being hocked on that email.
       When you're done searching, everything is done for entertainment
       value after that and I don't find the "searching" books as
       entertaining as other fare, (I do like this Depp/Heard thingy
       tho, amazing watching people squirm as they are faced with their
       lies and deceptions in real time, it's captivating).
       Don't have an opinion on his latest venture, if you're an author
       you have to write, as an artist I have to paint, figuring out
       what that is that I'm going to paint is the most difficult part,
       probably for him as well, maybe he has been through all that
       medical stuff and has come to some new thoughts or epiphanies,
       good for him but his path has not been my path since I quit
       posting at IGF, I find him useful when people ask the right
       questions of me, I send them to him, Damnedest explains it as
       clearly and simply as any book I have found.
       Nobody seems to be ready for Damndest tho, one has to be in a
       tremendous amount of pain to think that killing the "I" is the
       solution.
       #Post#: 5479--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Other Jed's mails... (from Wisefool press) 
   DIR By: rawhippo
       Date: May 26, 2022, 9:21 pm
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       Greetings! Don't you find it interesting that forum Jed/Kenneth
       died of heart problems last July and now book Jed appears to
       have almost met the same fate (or, is he simply using forum
       Jed's experience to fuel the next writings)? I've been lurking
       here since Plato/Steve invited me to join in 2014! Didn't
       understand what you were all pointing to then and still don't,
       even though dissolving "I" is all I "think" about...PS Steve,
       you still write so beautifully...RawHippo
       #Post#: 5482--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Other Jed's mails... (from Wisefool press) 
   DIR By: Plato
       Date: May 27, 2022, 4:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: rawhippo link ---
       >
       > Greetings! Don't you find it interesting that forum
       Jed/Kenneth died of heart problems last July and now book Jed
       appears to have almost met the same fate (or, is he simply using
       forum Jed's experience to fuel the next writings)? I've been
       lurking here since Plato/Steve invited me to join in 2014!
       Didn't understand what you were all pointing to then and still
       don't, even though dissolving "I" is all I "think" about...PS
       Steve, you still write so beautifully...RawHippo
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hey RH! Glad to hear from you again and thanks for joining the
       party, I think when one gets the "scent" of a life of no
       suffering it's very difficult to break away and go back to the
       same old same old... Flattery will get you everywhere, thanks
       for the compliment, I'm always amazed at Biisuto's knack for
       prose myself and Justin has his way with a word or two  ;) Not
       sure what's got Bii so busy that he hasn't been around for a bit
       but I always enjoy his take on "things".
       Yes thats a bit odd about the Jeds.
       #Post#: 5487--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Other Jed's mails... (from Wisefool press) 
   DIR By: Joanna
       Date: May 28, 2022, 3:04 am
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       "Contrary to popular belief, sh1t doesn't just randomly happen.
       Sh1t can happen, and it certainly does happen to eyes-closed,
       fear-based, ego-clad, heardbound juveniles, but why would any
       sane person remain in that state beyond the age of sexual
       maturity? Obviously, no sane person would because it's the very
       definition of insanity.
       Sh1t Happens refers to the bad luck and misfortune that befalls
       everyone now and then, but is it really everyone or almost
       everyone? In my experience, of all living creatures, it's only
       the freakish sub-species, Human Child, to whom sh1t happens."
       I don't have access to the rest of the article, maybe he
       elaborates.. Does a heart attack count as "sh1t happens" or is
       it an entertainment in the amusement park? I've never been a fan
       of roller coasters personally, but some people seem to love
       them, so maybe it could be the latter?
       #Post#: 5488--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Other Jed's mails... (from Wisefool press) 
   DIR By: Crystal
       Date: May 28, 2022, 11:03 am
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       Joanna, that made me laugh out loud. Thanks.  "Done" people are
       special, sh i t doesn't happen to them, just the rest of us.
       They even get to sail through being "injected". Funny thing on
       the Jedv site, he also claims, they have a team to entertain any
       subscribers for life, and yet, he ended up in the hospital, and
       "no one" posted a thing.
       #Post#: 5499--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Other Jed's mails... (from Wisefool press) 
   DIR By: Joanna
       Date: May 29, 2022, 2:15 am
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       3:
       Dear Friends,
       When I was down during the first week or ten days of my crisis,
       I was seen by many different members of the hospital staff.
       These same people came and visited me later when I was up and
       lucid, and there was an overwhelmingly positive emotional
       reaction in virtually all of them. Not bedside manner or
       professional veneer, but seasoned pros heartwarmed to see this
       unexpected outcome their calling had wrought.
       Rightly so. Awesome people, dedicated and highly competent,
       healers and nurturers, but they know a lost cause when they see
       one, and it was obviously how they saw me during the first phase
       of my time with them. Many commented that they could see me
       shrinking/fading away during those early days.  A cardiac
       surgeon would later call me a poster child for recovery. They
       were coming by to visit me just to marvel at my improvement. It
       affected many people very deeply. It came as a surprise to me
       because in those early days -- the first two-thirds -- I was in
       an entirely different space.
       Why me? Why any of this? Why this spectacular nosedive and
       dramatic last second pull-out? Why whatever's next?
       There are answers to these questions. Not true answers because
       there is no truth in the dreamstate at any level, but
       justified-belief answers. And while it may sound like we're
       talking about me, this is really all about you. Every day is
       anything-can-happen day.
       Stay tuned.
       -Jed
       Sounds promising...
       #Post#: 5500--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Other Jed's mails... (from Wisefool press) 
   DIR By: Joanna
       Date: May 29, 2022, 2:19 am
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       THAT'S how the amusement park looks like in my experience. Sure,
       the more you trust the less fear is there. But learning to trust
       is a process. Process that requires asking questions and getting
       answers, not pretending that fear is not there anymore. You
       don't ask questions to remain behind the steering wheel, you ask
       them so the universe can assure you that it is perfectly safe to
       let go of it.
       #Post#: 5501--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Other Jed's mails... (from Wisefool press) 
   DIR By: Frits Snips
       Date: May 29, 2022, 7:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Joanna link ---
       >
       >
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       >
       > THAT'S how the amusement park looks like in my experience.
       Sure, the more you trust the less fear is there. But learning to
       trust is a process. Process that requires asking questions and
       getting answers, not pretending that fear is not there anymore.
       You don't ask questions to remain behind the steering wheel, you
       ask them so the universe can assure you that it is perfectly
       safe to let go of it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Nevertheless, when you KNOW it's safe to let go of the wheel,
       when you KNOW the universe (or whatever you want to call it) has
       your back (in a matter of speaking, not literally), then there
       are no questions anymore. Never ever again.
       But of course you can get addicted to questioning, and that's a
       perfect way for ego (or ego-mind) to keep you trapped in this
       body when you're actually — again, in a matter of speaking — as
       free as a bird. When you KNOW, because you're 'seen it' (not
       with your eyes and not with or in your brain, but as what you
       actually are), you also know it has always been that way.
       You were never steering the car, the wheel you where holding was
       like one of those toy-wheels you give to kids, so they can play
       as if they are driving while mummy or daddy is in control of the
       car. Then the questions drop away because there is no need
       anymore for answers... because you KNOW. Knowledge leaves no
       room for doubt.
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