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Social Networks
By: Mac Date: March 6, 2012, 11:54 am
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I guess Penny Can is a type of social network. Right?
Anyway, I've had nothing personal to do with Facebook or
twitter. I think the idea at a 10,000 ft level it OK, but its
matured into detailing every aspect of your life and thoughts
and well, that's just f ucked up.
With that I hear way to many horror stories. Maybe the good
stories are just ho-hum and no one talks about that. But as a
cultural thing I believe it's going into area's no one thought
of possible or wanted to think possible
Stories like the one below just confirm my ass needs to stay out
of that arena.
[glow=red,2,300]Govt. agencies, colleges demand applicants'
Facebook passwords[/glow]
[quote]By Bob Sullivan
If you think privacy settings on your Facebook and Twitter
accounts guarantee future employers or schools can't see your
private posts, guess again.
Employers and colleges find the treasure-trove of personal
information hiding behind password-protected accounts and
privacy walls just too tempting, and some are demanding full
access from job applicants and student athletes.
In Maryland, job seekers applying to the state's Department of
Corrections have been asked during interviews to log into their
accounts and let an interviewer watch while the potential
employee clicks through wall posts, friends, photos and anything
else that might be found behind the privacy wall.
Previously, applicants were asked to surrender their user name
and password, but a complaint from the ACLU stopped that
practice last year. While submitting to a Facebook review is
voluntary, virtually all applicants agree to it out of a desire
to score well in the interview, according Maryland ACLU
legislative director Melissa Coretz Goemann.
Student-athletes in colleges around the country also are finding
out they can no longer maintain privacy in Facebook
communications because schools are requiring them to "friend" a
coach or compliance officer, giving that person access to their
“friends-only” posts. Schools are also turning to social media
monitoring companies with names like UDilligence and Varsity
Monitor for software packages that automate the task. The
programs offer a "reputation scoreboard" to coaches and send
"threat level" warnings about individual athletes to compliance
officers.
A recent revision in the handbook at the University of North
Carolina is typical:
"Each team must identify at least one coach or administrator who
is responsible for having access to and regularly monitoring the
content of team members’ social networking sites and postings,”
it reads. "The athletics department also reserves the right to
have other staff members monitor athletes’ posts."
All this scrutiny is too much for Bradley Shear, a Washington
D.C.-lawyer who says both schools and employers are violating
the First Amendment with demands for access to otherwise private
social media content.
"I can't believe some people think it's OK to do this,” he said.
“Maybe it's OK if you live in a totalitarian regime, but we
still have a Constitution to protect us. It's not a far leap
from reading people's Facebook posts to reading their email. ...
As a society, where are we going to draw the line?"
Aside from the free speech concerns, Shear also thinks colleges
take on unnecessary liability when they aggressively monitor
student posts.
"What if the University of Virginia had been monitoring accounts
in the Yeardley Love case and missed signals that something was
going to happen?” he said, referring to a notorious campus
murder. “What about the liability the school might have?"
Shear has gotten the attention of Maryland state legislators,
who have proposed two separate bills aimed at banning social
media access by schools and potential employers. The ACLU is
aggressively supporting the bills.
"This is an invasion of privacy. People have so much personal
information on their pages now. A person can treat it almost
like a diary," said Goemann, the Maryland ACLU legislative
director. "And (interviewers and schools) are also invading
other people's privacy. They get access to that individual’s
posts and all their friends. There is a lot of private
information there."
Maryland's Department of Corrections policy first came to light
last year, when corrections officer Robert Collins complained to
the ACLU that he was forced to surrender his Facebook user name
and password during an interview. The state agency suspended the
policy for 45 days, and eventually settled on the
“shoulder-surfing” substitute.
"My fellow officers and I should not have to allow the
government to view our personal Facebook posts and those of our
friends just to keep our jobs," Collins said to the ACLU at the
time.
Agency spokesman Rick Binetti confirmed the new policy, but
wouldn't comment on it or the proposed law which may ban it.
It's easy to see why an agency that hires prison guards would
want to sneak a peek at potential employees’ private online
lives. Goemann said that prisons are trying to avoid hiring
guards with potential gang ties -- the agency told the ACLU it
had reviewed 2,689 applicants via social media, and denied
employment to seven because of items found on their pages.
"All seven of these individuals' social media applications
contained pictures of them showing verified gang signs (signs
commonly known to law enforcement which are utilized by gangs),"
the Department of Corrections told the ACLU in response to
questions it asked about the program. It stressed the voluntary
nature of social media inspection, noting that five of the 80
employees hired in the last three hiring cycles didn't provide
access.
For student athletes, though, the access isn't voluntary. No
access, no sports.
"They're saying to students if you want to play, you have to
friend a coach. That's very troubling," said Shear, the D.C.
lawyer. "A good analogy for this, in the offline world, would
it be acceptable for schools to require athletes to bug their
off-campus apartments? Does a school have a right to know who
all your friends are?"
There have been many high-profile embarrassing moments born of
the toxic combination of student-athletes and Twitter. North
Carolina defensive lineman Marvin Austin tweeted about expensive
purchases on his account two years ago, then became subject of
an NCAA investigation about improper conduct with a player
agent. The incident led, in part, to the school's aforementioned
aggressive social media policy.
So it’s not surprising that many schools want to keep a careful
eye on what students are posting online.
But avoiding an uncomfortable moment is not a good enough reason
to squash free speech, Spear says. Plenty of settled case law in
the U.S. sides with students' rights to express themselves
publicly, he said, including numerous cases involving student
newspapers. Public displays of protest are also protected: A
landmark 1969 Supreme Court decisions known as Tinker vs. the
Des Moines School District said school officials couldn't
prevent students from wearing armbands protesting the Vietnam
War as long as they weren't inciting violence.
Colleges have legitimate concerns about the things students post
on social media accounts, but they should "deal with that issue
the way they deal with everything else. They should educate,"
Shear said.
"Schools are in the business of educating, not spying," he
added. "We don't hire private investigators to follow students
wherever they go. If students say stupid things online, they
should educate them ... not engage in prior restraint."
Goemann also noted that the rush to social media monitoring
raises an often overlooked legal concern: It's against
Facebook's Terms of Service.
"You will not share your password ... let anyone else access
your account or do anything else that might jeopardize the
security of your account," the site says in its policies.
Frederic Wolens, a Facebook spokesman, wouldn't comment on the
Maryland legislative proposals, but he said many of these school
and employer policies appear to violate the site's terms.
"Under our terms, only the holder of the email address and
password is considered the Facebook account owner. We also
prohibit anyone from soliciting the login information or
accessing an account belonging to someone else," he said in a
statement to msnbc.com. Wolens said Facebook has yet to take a
position on collegiate social media monitoring.
Social media monitoring on colleges, while spreading quickly
among athletic departments, seems to be limited to athletes at
the moment. There's nothing stopping schools from applying the
same policies to other students, however. And Shear says he's
heard from college applicants that interviewers have requested
Facebook or Twitter login information during in-person
screenings.
The practice seems less common among employers, but scattered
incidents are gaining attention from state lawmakers. The blog
Tecca.com last year showed what it said was an image of an
application for a clerical job with a North Carolina police
department that included the following question:
"Do you have any web page accounts such as Facebook, Myspace,
etc.? If so, list your username and password."
And the state of Illinois has followed Maryland's lead and is
considering similar legislation to ban social media password
demands by employers.
But Shear says a patchwork of state laws isn't good enough when
the stakes are this high.
"We need a federal law dealing with this," he said. "After 9/11,
we have a culture where some people think it's OK for the
government to be this involved in our lives, that it's OK to
turn everything over to the government. But it's not. We still
have privacy rights in this country, and we still have a
Constitution."[/quote]
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Re: Social Networks
By: Chiprocks1 Date: March 6, 2012, 12:02 pm
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To all my future employer's out there reading Penny Can.
BITE ME!
Now give me my raise I asked for.
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Re: Social Networks
By: Mac Date: March 6, 2012, 12:18 pm
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Yea, the bite me comment will turn some heads compared to some
of the other stuff you've said ;D
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Re: Social Networks
By: Chiprocks1 Date: March 6, 2012, 12:21 pm
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I'm trying to keep it clean. I may need a job.
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Re: Social Networks
By: Mac Date: March 6, 2012, 12:29 pm
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on the flipside of the comment I made above about personal
social networking, this report just came out...
[glow=red,2,300]
For job hunters, social networking options abound[/glow]
[quote]By Eve Tahmincioglu
Figuring out which social networking site is the best for your
job search is like trying to decipher a riddle with a constantly
changing answer.
When Google+ was introduced, many expected the site to rival
Facebook and LinkedIn when it came to its job-hunting potential.
But recent data show that the social networking site hasn’t
lived up to all the hype. Google+ users only spend mere minutes
on the site each month, compared to almost eight hours a month
on Facebook, comScore reported last week.
And now, an increasing number of people are using Pinterest, the
latest social-networking darling; and some are even posting
graphic-intensive resumes in an effort to impress employers. The
number of unique visitors to the site jumped 56 percent since
December, according to comScore, to nearly 12 million.
All this social media ballyhoo has many wondering which site
will help them land the job of their dreams.
Once upon a time, career experts pointed to LinkedIn as the only
site workers had to be on, but now that’s changing. “More
playful sites such as Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Quora, and
even Pinterest are turning out to be valuable tools for
job-hunters, too,” wrote George Anders, author of “The Rare
Find: Spotting Exceptional Talent Before Everyone Else," in a
Harvard Business Review post last week.
If the alphabet soup of social media choices has you wanting to
shun them all, think again. Employers are increasingly using
social media to connect with applicants. The most recent data
show 56 percent of the organizations currently use social
networking websites when recruiting for potential jobs,
according to the Society for Human Resource Management (SHRM),
which surveyed nearly 550 HR professionals via email last year.
That’s up from 34 percent in 2008, the last time the survey was
conducted.
Where recruiters are going to find you out in cyber space,
however, is a moving target.
Among the employers SHRM polled there are three top choices:
95 percent use LinkedIn.
58 percent use Facebook.
42 percent use Twitter.
But a survey put out last month by The Creative Group, an
interactive advertising company, of advertising and marketing
executives found that if they had to pick one social networking,
56 percent would choose Facebook, followed by LinkedIn and
Google+.
Facebook is beginning to give career stalwart LinkedIn some
competition by offering more recruiting tools for hiring
managers and job seekers, including apps such as BranchOut and
BeKnown.
Both options are luring more recruiters to Facebook as a result,
said Curtis Midkiff, SHRM’s director of social strategy and
engagement. “It’s catching on but not competing quite yet,” he
noted.
In the end, he stressed, your social networking choice should be
tied to the type of job you’re looking for. LinkedIn, he said,
is the “suit-and-tie network,” and people looking for
professional jobs in traditional industries are probably making
a good call to be on there.
For positions in healthcare or manufacturing, and generally more
blue-collar jobs, Facebook is gaining interest from recruiters
as a way to find applicants. The site is also gaining popularity
with employers looking to fill seasonal jobs, such as UPS
looking for holiday drivers, Midkiff explained.
UPS’s Jobs Facebook page often includes posts about job
openings, and the page now has more than 36,000 likes. A post
from earlier this year stated: “UPS is hiring Sales
professionals!” The post included 70 comments and a company
official even answered questions of Facebook users interested in
a sales job; a big difference from the black hole so many job
seekers face when they apply these days.
Hiring managers may also be looking to sites beyond LinkedIn if
they want to connect with younger workers.
E. Chandlee Bryan, a career coach and co-author of "The Twitter
Job Search Guide," sees sites such as Pinterest and Google+
filling a niche for specific professionals. Pinterest, she said,
is useful for people looking for jobs in the design and interior
decorating fields, while Google+ seems skewed toward tech jobs.
The best rule of thumb is to check out where the companies you
want to work for have the most presence and base your social
media focus on those sites. Do they have a careers page on
Facebook, or networking groups on LinkedIn or Google+? But don’t
jump from networking site to networking site just because one
job you want is posted there, Midkiff advised.
Don't just follow the latest media madness. You need a
thought-out plan on what site works for your career
aspirations.[/quote]
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Re: Social Networks
By: Chiprocks1 Date: March 6, 2012, 12:38 pm
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All I can say to that, if employers want to dig around and look
for stuff on potential employees, they better damn well make
sure that they too don't have any incriminating evidence
themselves. So, to all you Employers out there, you best delete
your "I'm So Sexy", "Big Boss Man Fetishes", "You're
Hired....I'm H o r n y" accounts because if don't give me the
job, I will make sure everyone knows about your sordid
lifestyle.
P.S.
I can type 180 words a minute.
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Re: Social Networks
By: Mac Date: October 4, 2012, 11:46 am
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Didn't know if to post here or WTF or Fail... It's all three.
But wow... just wow.
[glow=red,2,300]KitchenAid apologizes for dead grandma Obama
debate Tweet[/glow]
[quote]KitchenAid is famous for its mixers, but the brand
learned the hard way about the perils of mixing personal
political views with official company messaging on social media.
On Thursday morning, parent company Whirlpool was in
damage-control mode after an offensive message was sent from the
company’s official Twitter account during last night’s
presidential debate.
“Obamas gma even knew it was going 2 b bad! 'She died 3 days b4
he became president',”
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/> the Tweet read, a response to a reference President Barack
Obama made about his grandmother’s passing. It was quickly
deleted, but not before a flurry of screenshots and retweets
thwarted the attempt at erasure.
KitchenAid’s senior director of marketing Cynthia Soledad
followed up with a series of Tweets apologizing for the
“irresponsible tweet that is in no way a representation of the
brand's opinion.”
“It was carelessly sent in error by a member of our Twitter team
who, needless to say, won't be tweeting for us anymore,” she
wrote. “That said, I take full responsibility for my team. Thank
you for hearing me out.”
More...
The follow up discussion is pretty amusing
HTML http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/04/14220493-kitchenaid-apologizes-for-dead-grandma-obama-debate-tweet#comments[/quote]
Still not understanding the point of Twitter... Just seems
pretty shallow and lame to me.
I heard a funny yesterday... Instagram is for those who don't
like to read.
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Re: Social Networks
By: Chiprocks1 Date: October 4, 2012, 11:49 am
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Related Topic....kinda....
Y doo peeps gtta right like diss in 2days climate?
I only approve of writing like that if you are in chat with
another person that you know and want to keep the coversation
flowing and not have to spell everything out. But when you post
to a social network like Twitter, I think it should be mandatory
that you spell correctly since the world will be reading it.
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Re: Social Networks
By: Mac Date: October 4, 2012, 12:02 pm
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That lazy ass texting drives me nuts.
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Re: Social Networks
By: Chiprocks1 Date: October 4, 2012, 12:05 pm
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date=1349370170]
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That lazy ass texting drives me nuts.
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Dat lzy ass txting drives mi nutz.
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