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Aliens (1986)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: January 31, 2012, 12:30 am
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[center]Aliens: 2 Disc Special Edition (Quadrilogy Set)
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My copy of Aliens is coming straight from my Quadrilogy Set, so
the above DVD cover doesn't represent what I have. I'm just
using this as a place holder till I can find a suitable
replacement.
As awesome as Alien is, I think the follow up is far superior.
But then again, you really can't compare the two because the
genre is different from one to the next. Alien is straight up a
horror film that uses subtly to drive home the terror. Aliens is
straight up a Action/Thriller film that hits you over the head
with fire power. I personally just prefer the high octane rush
of Aliens. Also, I think the cast of characters in this one is
more engaging to the those that watch it. At least it is to me.
Say what you will about Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) in Aliens.
Sure, she got an Oscar nomiation for her role here, but you and
I both know who the real star is: Hudson (Bill Paxton). I still
think this is his defining role and one for the ages as he stole
every damn scene he was in.
This movie is packed with memorable characters from Hicks
(Michael Biehn), Newt (Carrie Henn), Bishop (Lance Henriksen)
and Vasquez (Jenette Goldstein). Even Paul Reiser gets in on
the fun as Burke, the slimiest corporate stooge ever. Gotta
mention Gorman (William Hope), a colossal f uck up that doesn't
know sh*t about running a team. Ugh. Got to give a shout out to
one of the greatest filmmakers of all time in James Cameron who
has never failed me as a movie goer. They guy just knows his
sh*t when it comes to writing and directing films.
This is a definite Buy. Now, I'm talking about the movie alone,
and not the Set. It's really hard to justify picking it up when
you have Alien 3 waiting in the wings, destroying everything
about Aliens. I may or may not get around to watching that. It's
hard to watch a film basically make Aliens pointless. Talk about
dropping the ball.
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Re: Aliens (1986)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: January 31, 2012, 12:32 am
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Re: Aliens (1986)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: January 31, 2012, 1:06 am
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[center]Alienses (SNL - 1986)
Alienses (SNL - 1986)
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Watch the clip if you wanna see Dana Carvey knock it out of the
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Re: Aliens (1986)
By: Mac Date: January 31, 2012, 9:37 am
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I agree with your review of Aliens. Great characters. Amazing
action and pacing. And yes, buying the box set is a waste of
time.
I completely disagree with your perspective on Alien 3. And
that’s OK. Lots of people walked away not liking Alien3. I
understand. When I originally watched Alien3 in the theaters I
was stunned and had those thoughts of not liking it. Over the
years, I have come to find it just as good as 1 & 2, but in
different perspective.
If you do decide to watch Alien3, maybe watch it with a new eye.
I think the audiences we’re expecting Alien3 to notch it up.
Aliens was better than Alien (because of the action), then
Alien3 should have even more action than Aliens. If you think
about it, that would be next to impossible, because Aliens was
so good. Most likely repeating Aliens would be satisfying, it
would be repetitive. Sometimes there is expectation of formula
for sequel movies (Fast & Furious, Scream and Halloween, Mission
Impossible). That’s fine for those goofy fun movies. But the
Alien Franchise I want change. Aliens is quite different than
Alien. I see Alien3 revels yet another new environment, new
characters and story line. Albeit, not a pleasant one with
killers and rapist on foreboding desolate planet. A lot of folks
were royally ****ed of killing off characters from Aliens.
Fincher quickly dismissed these characters (yet the Newt scene
was incredibly heart wrenching), to get on with the new story.
In my mind, these were all bold moves by Fincher. He was taking
a huge chance and delivered the unexpected. I have grown too
really like Alien3 with it’s new direction in the franchise.
Alien Resurrection (4) is whole other story and complete fail in
my opinion. That to can be discussed at another time.
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Re: Aliens (1986)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: January 31, 2012, 9:55 am
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Well, it's been a long time since I've watched Alien 3 so I have
forgotten most of what's going on inside the film. But what I do
remember of it really had nothing to do with wanting it to ramp
up the action beyond that of Aliens. I'm all for going in a
different direction. My biggest bone of contention was killing
off Newt and Hicks....even before the movie started. It's hated
by most because we grew to care about those two characters along
with Ripley. So to kill them off, it made the 3rd act of Aliens
kind of irrelevant. What was the point of saving those two if
you're just going to kill them off at the beginning of the next
movie? When the film started, I was floored, along with everyone
else in the theater. You could literally hear people saying
"what the f uck did they do"?
The other thing I remember of Alien 3 were the bad Special FX
shots of the Alien Monster. It looked really bad, like a cut and
paste job. There is a reason why the Aliens in the first two
kick so much ass because they were shot on set with practical
models. The ones in Alien 3 were CGI and very noticeable. Maybe
they went back and fixed it, I don't know. I'll give Alien 3 and
Alien Resurrection their own thread soon so that I can put the
entire franchise in context.
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Re: Aliens (1986)
By: Mac Date: January 31, 2012, 10:15 am
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Agree, the CGI bits were definitely low points of the movie. I
don’t believe that has been fixed. And if you knew the backstory
(tight budget and schedule) that would help a little bit, gloss
over that move.
IMO, Killing off some of beloved characters not only added gut
wrenching punch to the story, it added a new dimension to Ripley
(losing her child), but it set the tone for the rest of the
flick. I don’t think it makes Aliens irrelevant. Life just
happens that way sometimes and it’s not always pretty. We
already knew what she was going to face with the Alien, but
bringing in these prisoner characters good and bad, opened up
new doors. Again bold and risky. I works for me.
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Re: Aliens (1986)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: May 30, 2012, 12:11 pm
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[center]How Aliens Got The Green Light...
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[quote]Cameron was young. He had just directed Terminator.
Cameron had called a meeting to discuss his “next project.”
Everyone knew Cameron had written a treatment for Alien 2 that
nobody would touch because Alien was not a massive financial
success. Alien 2 was not on the table. We expected a
professional pitch from Cameron, an outline and a treatment of
what he had in mind with a cursory budget; perhaps a couple
assistants to run a slide show.
Instead Cameron walked in the room without so much as a piece of
paper. He went to the chalk board in the room and simply wrote
the word ALIEN. Then he added an ‘S’ to make ALIENS.
Dramatically, he drew two vertical lines through the ‘S’,
ALIEN$. He turned around and grinned. We greenlit the project
that day for $18 million.
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Re: Aliens (1986)
By: Mac Date: May 30, 2012, 9:01 pm
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Honestly that sounds like an urban myth. Alien was a huge
success, and then to believe nothing but words to grab the
contract?
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Re: Aliens (1986)
By: Chiprocks1 Date: May 30, 2012, 9:30 pm
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I have no idea if its a myth or not, but I heard about this
story a long time ago and it does fit Cameron's personality. So
I personally wouldn't dismiss outright. Besides, I like stories
like this and I choose to say it's 100% real!!
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Re: Aliens (1986)
By: Mac Date: July 1, 2012, 1:27 pm
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I soooo would have done this when I was eight
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The hand puppet alien made me smile.
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