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Gender Flipping Remakes
By: Mac Date: August 2, 2016, 11:47 am
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This is so disheartening. We've discussed remakes many times
before. IMO, I find most remakes a complete waste.
Now, because of the Studio's always searching for the next
avenue, apparently 2016 Ghostbusters gave studio's yet another
reason to not become creative.
[glow=red,2,300]'Ghostbusters' to 'Splash': Why Gender-Flipping
Is the New Gritty Reboot 31[/glow]
[quote]Yesterday afternoon, the industry trade papers reported
that Disney was mounting a remake of Splash, a 1984 romcom
starring a young Tom Hanks smitten with part-time mermaid Daryl
Hannah. Remaking a popular favorite — that's not surprising.
What was shocking, however, was the way Disney turned the tide
on this announcement's reception by swapping its leads' genders,
casting movie star/second-coming-of-Gene-Kelly Channing Tatum as
the merman and hot-streak character actress Jillian Bell as the
ordinary Hanks type. It could have easily been another
soul-deadening studio plan to prop up a moldy premise Weekend at
Bernie's-style and market it to a new generation. Instead,
Splash 2.0 sounds like it has the potential to be an interesting
prospect.
Fans attacked the idea of women busting ghosts — and that's the
best, most inspired thing about this blockbuster
Conjuring a massive payday used to be as simple as applying a
new layer of grit to a property that audiences know and love,
and sitting back as the brand familiarity pays for itself. Maybe
folks have gotten wise, or maybe the people making movies are
just having an off year, but either way, it's not working as
reliably as it used to. Think of the movie industry like a big
children's soccer game, with everyone chasing after the highly
lucrative ball regardless of what positions they've been
assigned to play. The Gritty Reboot has now officially rolled
out of bounds, and it's starting to look like the gender-flip
movie is the trend du jour.
More...
HTML http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/features/gender-flipping-movies-the-new-gritty-reboot-w432125[/quote]
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Re: Gender Flipping Remakes
By: Neumatic Date: August 2, 2016, 3:16 pm
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I remember a couple years ago that they (who are 'they?") were
thinking of Channing Tatum as the lead for a remake of Weird
Science, with geeky girls.
I'm not against gender-swapped remakes or roles, I'm against BAD
and needless remakes and reversals. I admit I don't see the
point in a Splash remake, but Channing Tatum seems to be rather
clever casting. Given that we're getting an Aquaman movie and
Chloe Moretz as the Little Mermaid, there's totally room for a
good-looking dumb beefcake merman movie. Especially if it
touches on stuff that those movies won't.
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Re: Gender Flipping Remakes
By: Mac Date: August 11, 2016, 11:36 am
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[glow=red,2,300]All-Female 'Ocean's Eleven' Spinoff Looking to
Avoid 'Ghostbusters'-Type Backlash[/glow]
Warners will make 'Ocean's Ocho,' for around $70 million,
according to sources, about $80 million less than the reported
$150 million that 'Ghostbusters' cost.
[quote]Put away that slime.
Though Warner Bros. has greenlit an all-female Ocean's Eleven
spinoff just weeks after an all-female Ghostbusters became a
major money loser for Sony, the comparisons should end there.
The most important distinction between the two films is the size
of each project's budget. Sources say Warners will make the
Ocean's reboot, which is currently titled Ocean's Ocho, for
around $70 million, about $80 million less than Ghostbusters'
reported budget of $150 million.
Within minutes of news breaking that Warners was moving forward
with its new Ocean's incarnation -- headed up by Sandra Bullock,
Cate Blanchett and Anne Hathaway and involving a heist at New
York's Metropolitan Museum -- a predictable social media
backlash began, with fans invoking the Ghostbusters
disappointment. But a project insider insists that the Ocean's
franchise is better poised for the gender swap than Ghostbusters
given that it is a frothy heist film aimed at adults rather than
fanboy-skewing action property with supernatural elements based
on a movie that some now consider sacrosanct. After all, the
2001 Ocean's Eleven, with George Clooney at the center of the
caper, was itself a remake of the similarly titled 1960 movie,
starring Frank Sinatra and his Rat Pack pals.
The new Ocean's cast — which also includes Helena Bonham Carter,
Mindy Kaling, Rihanna and Awkwafina — also boasts a more
celebrated group of actresses than Ghostbusters comedy quartet
of Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiig, Leslie Jones and Kate
McKinnon. Bullock, Blanchett, Hathaway and Carter have four
Oscar wins and nine nominations among them and have all starred
in box-office mega-hits, from Gravity (Bullock) to Cinderella
(Blanchett) to Interstellar (Hathaway) to Alice in Wonderland
(Carter). By contrast, although Ghostbusters' McCarthy is a
box-office draw and has an Oscar nomination of her own as well
for Bridesmaids, her appeal is still somewhat limited overseas.
And outside of Bridesmaids, Wiig has not established herself as
a box office draw, while Jones and McKinnon are relatively new
to film.
Still, it remains to be seen whether Ocean's Ocho can capture
the same box-office magic as the Clooney-led trio of films that
ran from 2001-07, grossing $1.1 billion.
But the Warners-based Bullock is so invested in this next
Ocean's outing that she has come on as an executive producer.
Clooney, who was rumored to be producing Ocean's Ocho, is no
longer producing, in a surprise twist. Instead, Steven
Soderbergh, who directed the three Clooney Ocean's movies, will
take the producing reins of the Gary Ross-helmed film by
himself.
Although Ghostbusters failed to reignite that franchise and
won't likely be sequelized with its current cast, many industry
observers point to the budget — which soared because of the
necessary special effects — as the cause for its profitability
problems. Ghostbusters, on which Sony partnered with Village
Roadshow, will result in a loss -- estimated to be in the $70
million range. Ironically, Village Roadshow is also co-financing
and co-producing Ocean's Ocho with Warner Bros.
In the wake of Ghostbusters' lackluster performance -- just $181
million worldwide to date -- studios began reevaluating other
all-female reboots, a group that also includes Fox's The League
of Extraordinary Gentlemen. But Warners is confident that it
won't find a Ghostbusters-esque box-office reception,
particularly overseas (Ghostbusters' international haul is $63
million so far, representing a dismal 35 percent of its total).
In fact, when it came to filling out its cast, instead of
putting together a mixed-gender group of eight burglars, Warner
Bros. president of creative development and worldwide production
Greg Silverman was more focused on assembling an ethnically
diverse group of women that reflects the global audience. And as
the studio fills out the eighth slot of the ensemble, one thing
is certain: Warners will not be casting a male actor.[/quote]
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Re: Gender Flipping Remakes
By: Neumatic Date: August 11, 2016, 12:33 pm
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Well that's just f'ing smart economics. Ghostbusters shouldn't
have cost 3 figures to make, that's insane.
I'm annoyed that the lesson that the studios got from
Ghostbusters is "rethink the all-female remake" and not "rethink
the bad remake." Bad remakes are bad movies, regardless of the
gender of the cast.
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