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       KISS (The Original Lineup) - Discography
       By: ChipRawks Date: September 10, 2011, 10:43 am
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       Re: KISS (The Original Lineup) - Discography
       By: ChipRawks Date: September 10, 2011, 10:46 am
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       [CENTER]What is the best KISS Album of All Time with the
       Original Lineup?
       Circa 1974
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       Re: KISS (The Original Lineup) - Discography
       By: ChipRawks Date: September 10, 2011, 10:50 am
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       [CENTER]Wicked Lester (1972 - Pre-KISS)
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       Wicked Lester. This was the band that Gene Simmons and Paul
       Stanley were in for a couple of years in which they recorded
       their Self-Titled debut, before dissolving it and then morphing
       into KISS soon after. The album to this day has never been
       released. It's a must sought-after bootleg within' the KISS
       circuit. Well, it was till YouTube came along. The first time I
       ever actually heard the album was maybe 20 years ago. A friend
       of mine, who was way into bootleg this and bootleg that, somehow
       got his hands on this. I think he paid somehwhere in the
       neighborhood of $45 for a copy on an audio cassette.
       So, needless to say, I begged him to make me a duplicate. He
       did. When I got my copy and gave it a whirl, the quality was so
       piss poor you couldn't really make anything out of it with all
       the hissing and noise. He was saying that his copy was no worse
       than a 2nd generation loss. Mine sounded like it was 20 Gens. He
       let me listen to his copy at his house, and the quality was only
       slightly better. I gave him back my sh*tty copy. And that was
       the last I ever heard anything from the album.
       But I remember liking some of the songs, especially She and
       Shout It Out Loud. The version of She was pretty much intact
       when it made it's way onto Dressed To Kill. But the version of
       Shout It Out Loud is nowhere near the same as what eventually
       made it's way onto Destroyer. The version on here is a hippie,
       flower power song. And for some strange reason, I like this
       version of it as well. This album is trippy to say the least
       when it comes to this very uneven and un-KISS-like project, even
       though technically there wasn't a KISS yet to make it
       "un-KISS-like".
       Fave Songs: She and Shout It Out Loud
       As for the album cover, it's been said that this is the official
       cover. But how can it be the official cover if it was never
       released? And never have I seen or heard either Gene or Paul
       confirm that this cover was legit.
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       Re: KISS (The Original Lineup) - Discography
       By: ChipRawks Date: September 10, 2011, 11:01 am
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       [CENTER]KISS (Self-Titled) 1974
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       I'll be the first to admit that I didn't really care for KISS'
       debut when I first picked it up. And that's only because I
       started with Rock And Roll Over and worked my way backwards. To
       me the newer stuff on RARO and Destroyer was fresher and
       definitely in the vein of that "wall of sound", which made
       everything on this album seem way to simplistic and dated IMO.
       So when I first got KISS' selfi-titled album, to me it only had
       a couple of cool songs on it and the rest seemed nothing more
       than filler to me. I was an idiot back then. Stupid little kid I
       was.
       Now and for what seems a life time, this is has been a personal
       fave of mine with some good f*cking music on it. I definitely
       rank this in my top 5 of all KISS albums. Out of the 10 songs on
       here, 8 of them are still used as the bulk of their live set
       list. The 2 songs not part of the set and from what I know, have
       never been played live are Kissin' Time and Love Theme From
       KISS, which is the only instrumental in their entire catalog of
       songs. And what seemed so "dated" back then is fresh and alive
       today. Me love this one long time.
       Fave Songs: All of 'em. I love them all so much I'm gonna go
       ahead just name drop all the songs.  Strutter, Nothin' To Lose,
       Firehouse, Cold Gin, Let Me Know, Kissin' Time, Deuce, Love
       Theme From Kiss, 100,000 Years and Black Diamond
       Great f*cking album cover too, even with the f*cked up Cat
       makeup done by a "professional" artist.
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       Re: KISS (The Original Lineup) - Discography
       By: ChipRawks Date: September 10, 2011, 11:11 am
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       [CENTER]KISS (Hotter Than Hell) 1974
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       As a whole, Hotter Than Hell is a pretty good album. But it's
       nowhere near the level of their debut IMO, even though a lot of
       KISS fans would say otherwise. It has some classic, kick ass
       songs that are still played to this day in their live sets. I
       personally don't play Hotter Than Hell all that much anymore, as
       I tend to go straight for their debut instead when revisiting
       their older stuff.
       Fave Songs: Got To Choose, Parasite, Goin' Blind, Hotter Than
       Hell, Let Me Go Rock 'N' Roll, Watchin' You and Comin' Home. The
       title track Hotter Than Hell get's the MVP award.
       Fun fact, in the made-for-TV movie KISS Meets The Phantom Of The
       Park, they had to change the lyrics from "Hot, hot, hotter than
       hell" to "Rip, rip, rip and destroy" due to censors. And ya know
       what? I love that version of the song too.
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       Another sweet, kick ass cover.
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       Re: KISS (The Original Lineup) - Discography
       By: ChipRawks Date: September 10, 2011, 11:15 am
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       [CENTER]KISS (Dressed To Kill) 1975
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       Dressed To Kill's biggest contribution here is the inclusion of
       Rock And Roll All Nite, their biggest hit as far as being the
       most well recognized song in their entire catalog. Even your Mom
       knows this song. DTK has other notable songs that are still
       played live in their sets still to this day. But overall DTK is
       slightly above average with a few fillers. I play this even less
       than that of Hotter Than Hell.
       Fave Songs: Rock Bottom, C'mon And Love Me, She, Love Her All I
       Can and Rock And Roll All Nite
       Another killer cover that depicts the band wearing suits, which
       Gene, Paul and Ace didn't own. They were borrowed from their
       manager and that's why Gene's pants legs are far too short.
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       Re: KISS (The Original Lineup) - Discography
       By: ChipRawks Date: September 10, 2011, 11:24 am
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       [CENTER]KISS (The Originals) 1976
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       The Originals  is a combo-pack that took the first 3 albums
       (LP's) and bundled them as a set along with a 16 page Booklet
       insert. This was the beginning of sick, sick, sick giveaways
       that KISS would utilized in future albums. As a kid, the ONLY
       reason why I got this was just to get the book since I needed to
       have everything with the KISS logo on it.
       I give the booklet 5 stars as well as the idea of getting a 3
       for 1 bundle deal.
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       Re: KISS (The Original Lineup) - Discography
       By: ChipRawks Date: September 10, 2011, 11:31 am
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       [CENTER]KISS (Alive!) 1975
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       Interior Gate-fold
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       You want the best, you got the best! The hottest band in the
       world...KISS!!! With those 15 words, their lives and mine would
       be forever changed. Normally I wouldn't include live albums as
       part of a "Best Album Of All Time" poll. But in this case, it is
       absolutely warranted.
       Alive! saved the band from extinction as they were going nowhere
       and fast based on their first 3 albums. This is a double live
       concert album recorded at Cobo Hall in Detroit. A lot was made
       about how this was the best "Live" concert ever released on
       Vinyl. But for hardcore fans, we later learned that the album
       was in fact doctored with overdubs and sweetened to make the end
       product better. So technically not really a Live Concert as it
       was purported to be. Not cool.
       I give it a 5 Star rating in spite of being swindled by the band
       due to the significance of what it did for them. It's still a
       great listen and I hold a soft spot for it. This was the start
       of what unfortunately becomes a trend with the band constantly
       pulling a fast one on it's fans...i.e...me. And for that they
       get...
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       The interior gate-fold cover had 4 handwritten notes from each
       bandmember to the fans, signed in their own names. This is were
       I learned to forge their names with their signatures. I was so
       good that kids at school would constantly ask me to sign their
       books, etc...with their names. And yes, I can still forge their
       names without even trying.
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       Re: KISS (The Original Lineup) - Discography
       By: ChipRawks Date: September 10, 2011, 11:47 am
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       [CENTER]KISS (Destroyer) 1976
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       Rolling Stones 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time
       Destroyer at #496
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       I don't have to listen to anything after this to determine what
       I'm going to vote for. I already know that Destroyer is the Best
       Album Of All Time with the Original Lineup. It's their
       masterpiece. Destroyer is just worlds apart from anything they
       ever did before or after with Gene, Paul, Peter and Ace when it
       came to songwriting, recording and studio tricks for sound FX,
       etc....
       First time I ever listened to this, I was floored. Just the
       opening to Detroit Rock City had me captivated with the car
       engine, radio and the crash that follows. I was sucked in. At
       the conclusion of DRC it segues right into King Of The Night
       Time World, which is a hell of a song. One of my all time faves.
       God Of Thunder is next and is Gene's crown jewel both on record
       as well as live. What a lot of people don't know is that Paul
       wrote this for himself, but the albums producer Bob Ezrin said
       he just couldn't see him singing it and to give it to Gene. The
       rest is KISSTORY as they are fond of saying.
       Great Expectations, Sweet Pain and Flaming Youth just kick so
       much ass too. I hear the knock against Great Expectations with
       the inclusion of using a kids choir as the reason why they don't
       rate it as high. Personally, I just think its a great song.
       Shout It Out Loud finds it's way here from the Wicked Lester
       days in a completely different and better, i.e. classic version.
       Following this is Beth, their first top 10 hit.
       But my personal favorite and the best song of the entire album
       is the last one: Do You Love Me? I put this right up there with
       Queen's We Will Rock You when it comes to using a drum part as
       the focal point of a song. These 2 songs are neck and neck for
       best drum song ever IMO. The slow build to the chorus is full of
       tension, waiting to get to those power chords. And when you
       finally hear those chords....ah, the release is awesome.
       Hidden track that follows is 1 minute of screaming fans at a
       KISS concert.
       Fave Songs: All of 'em
       Best album cover ever! Cover artist is Ken Kelly, who would also
       do the Love Gun cover as well.  The inner sleeve had the KISS
       Army registration membership on one side and the lyrics to
       Detroit Rock City on the other side. The sleeve itself is hard
       stock cardboard. None of that flimsy paper that tears as soon as
       you put your vinyl back in.
       FYI, I totally disagree with Rolling Stone placing this album at
       #496 . Top 10 in my book. Nuff' said.
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       Re: KISS (The Original Lineup) - Discography
       By: ChipRawks Date: September 10, 2011, 12:14 pm
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       [CENTER]KISS (Rock And Roll Over) 1976
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       Full Size RARO Sticker, Order Form and Vinyl Sleeve
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       Rock And Roll Over was my first KISS album I ever got. I had to
       beg my Mom to buy it for me. She did. Thanks, Mom.
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       />RARO is a great album. It's a shame they don't perform any of
       the songs from the album now (with the exception of the 1996
       Reunion Tour). The only song that sees the light of day anywhere
       on the set list would be Calling Dr. Love. But during the
       aforementioned tour, they routinely brought out such classics as
       I Want You, Take Me and of course Calling Dr. Love.
       Fave Songs: All of 'em. Even Peter Criss' country-ish Hard Luck
       Woman kicks major ass. MVP goes to I Want You.
       RARO continued the trend of packing free stuff in the album
       covers. With this one you got a full size replica sticker of the
       cover, an order form for more KISS goodies. And the sleeve, not
       so much a freebie as it was just really cool to look at.
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