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       #Post#: 33141--------------------------------------------------
       CD and Vinyl Remasters and Special Editions
       By: Chiprocks1 Date: January 26, 2015, 7:41 pm
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       Since I'm currently upgrading a lot of stuff in my collection, I
       will be needing your input on specific albums. So, I'm currently
       looking at upgrading Fleetwood Mac's Rumors. There is a 3 Disc
       Remaster version. Anyone own this are at least heard any
       negative or positive things about the sound quality. Remember,
       just because something has been Remastered, it doesn't always
       mean that it's better. I've read a few reviews and some say that
       the original pressing is better. Looking to hear from you
       guys.......
       #Post#: 33143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CD and Vinyl Remasters and Special Editions
       By: Mac Date: January 27, 2015, 9:30 am
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       [quote]Since I'm currently upgrading a lot of stuff in my
       collection, I will be needing your input on specific albums. So,
       I'm currently looking at upgrading Fleetwood Mac's Rumors. There
       is a 3 Disc Remaster version. Anyone own this are at least heard
       any negative or positive things about the sound quality.
       Remember, just because something has been Remastered, it doesn't
       always mean that it's better. I've read a few reviews and some
       say that the original pressing is better. Looking to hear from
       you guys.......[/quote]
       You’re kinda asking a wide open question. Because it’s all about
       you, what your expectations are and how you listen to your
       music. Do you have a really good stereo system? Do you listen
       through headphones? Good Headphones? Do you sit there just to
       listen to the music or is it primarily something on while you do
       other things. Do you primarily listen in the car?
       All trying to figure out the quality level you expect. I would
       think if your typical listening environment is NOT sitting there
       listening to every golden note, getting into Remaster’s might be
       overkill.
       Researching the newly remastered Rumors, all of them talked
       about the iconic album, it’s history and nothing about the sonic
       quality. I think that because it’s hard to improve on a near
       perfect album. The original was mastered correctly and I’ve
       never found an issue with it. I would not be interested in the
       additional discs. The live disc might be fun to listen to once.
       I’ve always hated outtakes (3rd disc). They are outtakes for a
       reason and I’m not interested how the song evolved. But if
       that’s something of interest to you, this release will be only
       place you can get it.
       That being said, the rest is just my opinion on Remastered
       albums. I just don’t see the value in them. If I didn’t own the
       album before and was considering buying, I’d probably pick the
       remastered, only if it was a reasonable price. Because of my
       long life with music, I’ve double dipped, triple dipped way to
       many times. I will never re-buy something I already have. In the
       early CD years, there were some albums mastered badly, and it’s
       those few that perpetuate bad CD’s myth.  IMO, 99% of albums on
       CD’s sound more than fine.
       I’ve always had a pretty good stereo system. In my younger days,
       I would just sit and listen to every track. I no longer do that.
       The only time I listen to songs is while playing to them on my
       drum kit. Sometimes I get to listen to a CD in my car, but
       that’s rare of late. Seeking better sound recordings of
       something I have would not benefit me. I probably listen to most
       music on my computer or out in the garage. Neither too sonically
       elevating.
       And I’m not even going to talk at length about Vinyl. My
       listening experience has been mostly negative. While it was the
       only thing I could listen to music with and they were good
       years, I would never go back.
       You just have to ask yourself about this upgrading journey. Is
       it worth it?
       #Post#: 33145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CD and Vinyl Remasters and Special Editions
       By: Chiprocks1 Date: January 27, 2015, 10:07 am
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       All valid points. Some of the disc that I have in my collection
       just outright suck because I also have the vinyl to compare them
       to. So upgrading in those cases is a no-brainer for me. The
       others that I own are decent. Not something I'd throw out, but I
       am interested in knowing if there is a huge improvement in a
       Remaster version, mainly for separation of tracks that bring
       forth instruments that were buried in the original mix. I do
       have a kick ass surround set up that will definitely benefit if
       the Remaster was done right. Some of the older first press CDs
       that I got are a bit bright and I'm looking to see if they have
       tweeked the bass, which would add to the enjoyment of my
       listening experience. This would also play into using Headphones
       when I work late into the night and don't want to disturb the
       neighbors.
       A good example of Before and After is my most recent upgrade for
       Ace Frehley's '78 Solo Remaster which really is night and day
       compared to the First Pressing. Same goes for Creatures of the
       Night. I've done a lot of reading on other sites to get a feel
       for what most people think regarding specific albums and artist.
       One thing I notice is that most people have said they don't like
       any of the AC/DC Remasters which I found surprising. I was only
       looking to upgrade Highway to Hell and Back in Black. Everyone
       said to stick with the Original First Press. Below is my list of
       CD's that I'm interested in upgrading. Whether I do remains to
       be seen based on reviews or access to Used copies at my
       Secondhand Record Store that allows me to check them out before
       buying.
       The Beatles - White Album, Abbey Road, Rubber Soul
       [s]AC/DC - Highway to Hell, Back in Black[/s]
       Led Zeppelin - I-IV, Physical Graffiti
       Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
       Michael Jackson - Thriller, Bad, Dangerous
       KISS - Self-Titled, Hotter Than Hell, Dressed to Kill, Alive,
       Alive II, Destroyer, Rock and Roll Over, Love Gun, The Elder
       I want to say P!nk is on the list. But her stuff is still
       "recent" enough to suggest that there aren't any Remasters. If
       she does have newly Remastered stuff, I'd definitely be
       interested to hear what they sound like compared to the current
       disc.
       #Post#: 33149--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CD and Vinyl Remasters and Special Editions
       By: Mac Date: January 27, 2015, 5:29 pm
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       I don't know. High caliber artists like Zeppelin and AC/DC I'm
       pretty sure nailed it best they had available at the time. I'm
       just not sure you'll hear a significantly better production.
       I didn't with the first 4 Zep CDs they recently put out.
       I heard a clean recording. Not sure if that is better than their
       previous releases on CD.
       #Post#: 33150--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CD and Vinyl Remasters and Special Editions
       By: Chiprocks1 Date: January 27, 2015, 5:34 pm
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       I'm hearing mixed reviews about the new Zep stuff. Some love it,
       some hate it and most have said the exact same thing you said. I
       checked with my Library to see if any of the stuff I want to
       check out personally is in the system. So far, nothing
       available. If they had it on hand, it would be a big help for me
       to check out and do my own comparison at home.
       #Post#: 33407--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CD and Vinyl Remasters and Special Editions
       By: Chiprocks1 Date: February 10, 2015, 1:25 am
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       [center]The Ultimate AC/DC Discography
  HTML http://www.acdc-discography.com/listusa.html
       Found a great link that has all the different CD pressings for
       all of AC/DC's albums. This will be a great source to verify
       what the CD's actually look like. The most recent Remasters for
       their catalog is universally despised and that the ones to get
       are the Atco or Atlantic Pressings.
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