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       How bad was the 2013 Summer Movie Season
       By: Neumatic Date: September 2, 2013, 3:55 pm
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       Reading this article on Dissolve discussing how band the 2013
       movie season was
  HTML http://thedissolve.com/features/exposition/120-just-how-bad-was-the-summer-movie-season/.<br
       /> Interesting comparison to previous years and how there was
       nothing that everyone glommed onto as "the" movie of the summer,
       so it feels more scattershot.  It summed up pretty well why I
       wasn't dying to see anything in the theaters this summer (heck,
       I went to two REreleases in the last month).  Plus there were
       just SO many releases, another issue I had (that didn't seem to
       be even brought up in the article), in the past there was
       scarcity, "this is what you get, pick."
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       Re: How bad was the 2013 Summer Movie Season
       By: Chiprocks1 Date: September 2, 2013, 4:00 pm
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       It's really not all that surprising. With everyone and their
       Grandmothers having Home Theater Setups that rival movie houses
       in both audio and visual quality, more people are going to save
       their money for DVDs that they would have otherwise spent on
       movie tickets. The movie industry NEEDS something fresh and new,
       something that can't be replicated at home. They tried 3D, but
       they shot themselves in the foot by rushing too many movies with
       'tacked on 3D' to it that didn't live up to the standards of
       Avatar.
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       Re: How bad was the 2013 Summer Movie Season
       By: Neumatic Date: September 2, 2013, 4:23 pm
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       I think it's a little unfair to compare every 3D film to Avatar
       because they pretty much invented the technology for that film.
       Though I will say it is absolutely fair to call out 3D
       conversion, I HATE that stuff, if your movie is gonna be 3D, go
       Hugo with it and SHOOT it in 3D and USE the 3D.  We're all
       TOTALLY FINE with flat movies, we lived with them forever.
       I really would like a big-screen TV (and I'm even a guy who
       would go for high frame rate on my TV, I'm actually coming
       around to it after seeing the Avengers like that) but I'm not
       there yet.  And I've seen some 4K tvs and they look amazing but
       there isn't that much content for that yet (you could get it
       downloading and streaming, but we have to solve this country's
       sh*tty internet connection issues first) and then the theaters
       will be in MASSIVE trouble (and god help them when RED camera
       quality stuff trickling down to the average consumer (the last I
       heard it was 5K and that was a few years ago).
       And the thing about those great movies they listed in the
       article... how many of you saw those movies?  How many regular
       people who like movies but aren't plugged in even HEARD about
       those movies?  The high rating means nothing when you're a small
       movie no one hears about in a couple screens and festivals
       versus a sh*tty Lone Ranger that's playing in every screen it
       can.  Now when they come out on DVD and Blu and streaming it'll
       be a different matter, I'm sure, because you make good stuff and
       people will find it, but I think it's screwing with the numbers
       a bit to count their positive ratings along with the big
       tentpoles that everyone was overexposed to the marketing of.
       Honestly, there's so many movies that I was just waiting to see
       on DVD because I wasn't willing to lay out that cash (Oblivion,
       etc) but also the smaller ones that I even avoided at festivals
       (the faux indies) that I knew were getting distribution, it's
       much easier to find them once they come out on DVD than it is to
       try to find a theater that's playing them.
       And I realized this the other day, I haven't gotten the paper in
       years.  I wonder how many other households can say the same
       thing.  And you know what's in the paper, every day?  The
       theater listings!  No wonder I don't know what's playing, I only
       ever look at Fandango when I WANT to see something, not when I'm
       curious.  Has anyone considered that factor?  Systemic
       ignorance?
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       Re: How bad was the 2013 Summer Movie Season
       By: Chiprocks1 Date: September 2, 2013, 4:37 pm
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       Another factor that plays into why I don't go to the theater
       like I use to is the quality of upkeep for each movie house. The
       owners and or managers are just as guilty as the studios that
       create sub-par films. The owners that run these theaters look
       for any shortcuts they can to save a buck and that ends up
       affecting the paying customer. When a theater refuses to fix
       simple things like a broken chair or bathrooms that are always
       flooded or out of order or price gouging at the concession
       stand, is it no wonder I bailed on them long ago? I always went
       to matinee shows with ticket prices around 4-5 bucks. Last time
       I checked (a few years ago), those same tickets will run you
       about 12 bucks as the "cheapest prices". No thanks.
       #Post#: 22451--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How bad was the 2013 Summer Movie Season
       By: Neumatic Date: September 2, 2013, 4:56 pm
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       SD sounds like such an expensive city to live in.  Though I am a
       shut-in in a smaller place (and a notorious cheapskate) so maybe
       I'm not the most accurate guide.  But I did work in a theater
       and man, we had a minute to clean each theater after a showing
       and we never took the trash out if we could avoid it, we'd swap
       out full trash cans into the empty theaters... and that's just
       because we didn't have the kind of time to take care of that
       stuff.
       Outside of the lower prices (and smaller attendance), the
       earliest shows rock because the pro cleaning crew comes in
       before hand so that's as clean as that theater's gonna be all
       day.
       I used to love the previews and so on but all the previews look
       the same... the whole thing about promotional material being the
       same is a whole other discussion, but honestly, if they're not
       going to take any risks with the CONTENT of the movies, you
       think they're gonna take any risks with the marketing of the
       movie?  Forget it.  So how can we tell what to see if all the
       promotional material feels the same.  Even indie films all have
       the same kind of trailer.  I finally found an article about this
  HTML http://thedissolve.com/features/exposition/119-the-underselling-of-the-movies/<br
       />in my history.
       #Post#: 22490--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How bad was the 2013 Summer Movie Season
       By: Neumatic Date: September 3, 2013, 8:49 pm
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       Another article that pretty much sums up how I felt about this
       summer's movie offering: The Summer of Meh.
  HTML http://whysoblu.com/the-summer-of-meh/
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       Re: How bad was the 2013 Summer Movie Season
       By: Mac Date: September 3, 2013, 9:12 pm
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       Good lord that was a long ass article.
       Maybe it was in there, not sure, but I think the proliferation
       of Sequels, Remakes, Comic Book Hero onslaught is finally
       wearing folks down. I never got into the comic book movies, and
       what I did like (Iron Man, Thor), I was not real excited about
       watching more of the same. Remakes... duh, bore me. Sequels, uh,
       we'll, depends. For the most part, not interested in seeing the
       same formula.
       So yea, I can see audiences thinking Meh, about what studios are
       counting on being big tent pole money makers.
       #Post#: 22672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How bad was the 2013 Summer Movie Season
       By: Chiprocks1 Date: September 12, 2013, 7:35 am
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       [center]Top Ten Summer Box Office Bombs 2013 - Highest Budgets,
       Lowest Grosses HD
  HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9s1-4v9PrU
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       Re: How bad was the 2013 Summer Movie Season
       By: Mac Date: September 12, 2013, 8:50 am
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       OK, why in the hell did it take 130 Million for Turbo?
       Advertising to the kiddies? Good gawd.
       215 Million for The Lone Ranger? I thought the studio's had a
       tighter grip on their products?
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       Re: How bad was the 2013 Summer Movie Season
       By: Mac Date: September 12, 2013, 8:53 am
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       And speaking of the turd The Internship, our library is getting
       it, but I have zero interest in seeing it. Meh
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